Tropical Island Video Vault Draft - ROUND 20 - FINAL ROUND

[SacKings7]

I think he means 5 "repicks" per drafter, or up to 100 movies from the previous draft.

Personally, since I wasn't in the previous draft I'm not sure it is really necessary. I guess if most of the participants are repeaters then it might make sense, but it seems there are only a handful that played last time.

In fact, if there are only 5 or 6 repeaters, I'd even say Bricklayer's original 5 repeat picks rule probably wouldn't be necessary either.

But in the end, I'm fine with any of these choices.

Ah yes, you appear to be right. My mistake.

 

[Larry89]

pick me PICK ME

 

[kingsnation]

Yeah I didn't do the last draft but I'd be good with any of these rules.

 

[Jespher]

OK so that's settled. A 10th rule has been added stipulating only 5 picks from the original draft will be allowed per drafting member. Any problems or concerns with this ruling may be taken up with management (AKA Bricklayer)...As of now the rules are completed, and we only need 4 more signees before the draft can get underway. I'll look for an impartial board member to perform the randomizing duties once we get the full 16 participants. Ideally, the draft will begin by Friday at noon PST, lets call that a soft start date. Get your lists ready and put on your argh face!

 

[Dime Dropper]

I'm not really a fan of the new rule as I think it will greatly dilute the quality of the movies being taken, especially in the second half of the draft. I'd imagine some of the movies will be so nichey that a lot of drafters won't even have heeard of them. But I'll play along and see how it goes.

 

[Warhawk]

I'm not really a fan of the new rule as I think it will greatly dilute the quality of the movies being taken, especially in the second half of the draft. I'd imagine some of the movies will be so nichey that a lot of drafters won't even have heeard of them. But I'll play along and see how it goes.

Are you kidding??? Nobody even took Ishtar or Battlefield: Earth last time! There are lots of quality flicks available!

 

[William Blake]

I'm in but I'll be without internet on my pc until this friday, so if you want to start earlier feel free to count me out.

 

[Dime Dropper]

Are you kidding??? Nobody even took Ishtar or Battlefield: Earth last time! There are lots of quality flicks available!

If you think that's an obscure movie, wait until you hear of some of the Irish one's I'll be breaking out in the last few rounds! Seriously, though, it's going to be difficult to win this draft considering most people won't know a good lot of your movies.

 

[Spike]

I'm back! Idaho apparently didn't have the interwebs as I would have liked, but I'm here, and ready to party.

 

[Bricklayer]

Actually that's not what I meant -- I was just aiming at guys not repeateing their own draft lists from last time. But you guys carry on however you like, and don't come crying to me when you get stuck drafting Big Momma's House 2 in the 18th round.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I'm confused, it sounded like Brickie's decree was that returning players could only re-pick 5 of their own movies to prevent people from taking the same lists.

Now it's everybody can only pick 5 of the entire lot?

I will play by either rule set but seems the latter is overly restrictive, but that's because I usually find people's critiques and personal insights more interesting than when it is just an IMBD or Wiki link (and I vote accordingly). On the other hand... I do like my obscure stuff.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Actually that's not what I meant -- I was just aiming at guys not repeateing their own draft lists from last time. But you guys carry on however you like, and don't come crying to me when you get stuck drafting Big Momma's House 2 in the 18th round.

First you spoil the Magnificent 7 for me now you tell everyone my first pick.

 

[uolj]

OK so that's settled. A 10th rule has been added stipulating only 5 picks from the original draft will be allowed per drafting member. Any problems or concerns with this ruling may be taken up with management (AKA Bricklayer).

Was there anybody else who voiced support for this change? It sounds like most who posted here have a mild preference to not use this rule.


Oh... and my lists are ready either way. My "obscure" ones aren't so much obscure as they are ones that most others think are too crappy to pick. That's a recipe for victory. Arrgghhh!

 

[Larry89]

Actually that's not what I meant -- I was just aiming at guys not repeateing their own draft lists from last time. But you guys carry on however you like, and don't come crying to me when you get stuck drafting Big Momma's House 2 in the 18th round.

Hey, lets not forget this draft is based on personal preference each individual would enjoy being stuck watching for the entirety of their miserable lonely existence on a tropical island. I for one, would enjoy watching Big Momma's House 2 in all of it's masochistic glory and ineptitude.

 

[Larry89]

If the #10 rule for the draft stands, I would have to pull out of the draft, I don't think I would be able to conjure up enough movies for my list. I dont think ive even seen that many movies of high enough quality to draft if im only able to repeat 5 picks out of 320 movies from the last draft

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Was there anybody else who voiced support for this change? It sounds like most who posted here have a mild preference to not use this rule.


Oh... and my lists are ready either way. My "obscure" ones aren't so much obscure as they are ones that most others think are too crappy to pick. That's a recipe for victory. Arrgghhh!

I will voice support for rule #10. A few nights ago I dashed off a quick list of stuff I'd be interested in drafting, maybe 30 movies or so, and about 20 of them were drafted last time. You'd hate to see the same movies just shuffled around among different people, so I think this will make tings a bit more interesting. Plus, people will have to dig into their bag of tricks a bit and we might find some interesting stuff coming up.

 

[Löwenherz]

Huh ... it appears I've inspired a controversy. Admittedly, I'm a bit of a film fiend and let my vanity drive me toward a personal challenge - but I really didn't expect everyone else to have that standard (or close to it) forced on them.

However, now that "rule 10" is upon us, I'm honestly ambivalent about it. The rule isn't going to change my approach at all. I also appreciate the fact it would offer up a lot more variety. Seeing the same movies picked over and over would get tedious and one of the more fun aspects of the previous draft was being introduced to new films.

With that said, it is unfair to arbitrarily restrict people who haven't participated before to only five of 320 randomly selected movies. Plus, selfishly, the more movies that are available to other drafters, the less likely one on my list will be poached.

Ultimately, I think Brick's original decree of limiting returnees to only five of their own previous selections is both fair and adequate. But if we can get 16 drafters to accept the more stringent rule, I would enthusiastically support that.

Oh, one more thing: have I correctly ascertained that Brick is pontificating on our behalf, but apparently not actually participating in the religion?

 

[Löwenherz]

After reading the debate with myself, my ambivalence has waned. I support rule 10 in its current incarnation. It'll make this draft unique from the previous one and add a bit more strategy.

(I'm still forfeiting my five selections)

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Not having participated in the last draft what I really dislike about the rule is that it forces people to go back and look at those movies/lists just to make sure they aren't picking them, which in some ways could taint the draft more than just having everyone redraft their same list would. I won't have any problem picking 20 of my own movies but I don't really want to constantly reference the other draft either.

 

[Superman]

How many returnees are there? I think it's a little restrictive, and we last did this four years ago so it's not like we're going to have the same exact movies again, but whatever's decided I'm good with. I haven't looked at the movies selected last time, but I'm pretty sure I'll be able to participate even with the restriction, whatever it winds up being.

 

[uolj]

FYI... Here are the movies picked last time.

Note that I just copied from how they were posted in the draft list, so there might be typos or other anomalies (like "Lord of the Rings" in one place and and "The Lord of the Rings" in another).

Alphabetically:

Spoiler

12 Angry Men - 1957
2001: A Space Odyssey - 1968
24 Hour Party People - 2002
300 - 2007
A Christmas Story - 1983
A Clockwork Orange - 1971
A Few Good Men - 1992
A Fish Called Wanda - 1988
A Knight's Tale - 2001
A League of Their Own - 1992
A Time to Kill - 1996
A.I (Artificial Intelligence) - 2001
About A Boy - 2002
Above The Rim - 1994
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective - 1994
Airplane! - 1980
Alien - 1979
Aliens - 1986
All The President’s Men - 1976
Almost Famous - 2000
American Gangster - 2007
American Graffiti - 1973
American History X - 1998
American Pie - 1999
Amores Perros - 2000
Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy - 2004
Angel Heart - 1987
Animal House - 1978
Apocalypse Now - 1979
Apocalypto - 2006
Apollo - 1995
Arsenic and Old Lace - 1944
Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery - 1997
Back to the Future - 1985
Bad News Bears - 1976
Bad Santa - 2003
Batman Begins - 2005
Before Sunrise - 1995
Benny & Joon - 1993
Best in Show - 2000
Beverly Hills Cop - 1984
Big Lebowski - 1998
Blade Runner (The Director's Cut) - 1992
Blazing Saddles - 1974
Blood Diamond - 2006
Bloodsport - 1988
Blow - 2001
Bonnie & Clyde - 1967
Boogie Nights - 1997
Boyz 'N the Hood - 1991
Braveheart - 1995
Breakfast at Tiffany's - 1961
Bringing Up Baby - 1938
Bull Durham - 1988
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - 1969
Caddyshack - 1980
Cars - 2006
Casablanca - 1942
Chasing Amy - 1997
Chicago - 2002
Clash of the Titans - 1981
Clerks - 1994
Clueless - 1995
Collateral - 2004
Conan the Barbarian - 1982
Contact - 1997
Crash - 2004
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - 2000
Cry Baby - 1990
Dances with Wolves - 1990
Dark City - 1998
Dazed and Confused - 1993
Dead Poets Society - 1989
Demolition Man - 1993
Die Hard - 1988
Dolores Claiborne - 1995
Donnie Darko - 2001
Down by Law - 1986
Dr Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb - 1964
Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story - 1993
Dumb and Dumber - 1994
Dune (Extended Edition) - 2006
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial - 1982
Easy Rider - 1969
Edward Scissorhands - 1990
El espinazo del diablo (The Devils Backbone) - 2001
Enchanted - 2007
Escape From Alcatraz - 1979
Evil Dead II: Dead by Dawn - 1987
Face/Off - 1997
Fargo - 1996
Fast Times at Ridgemont High - 1982
Ferris Bueller's Day Off - 1986
Field of Dreams - 1989
Fight Club - 1999
Finding Nemo - 2003
Fist of Fury - 1972
Five Deadly Venoms - 1978
Follow the Fleet - 1936
Fong Sai Yuk (The Legend) - 1993
For Richer or Poorer - 1997
Forgetting Sarah Marshall - 2008
Forrest Gump - 1994
Full Metal Jacket - 1987
Gangs of New York - 2003
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai - 1999
Ghostbusters - 1984
Gladiator - 2000
Glengarry Glen Ross - 1992
Glory - 1989
Goldeneye - 1995
Good Will Hunting - 1997
Goodfellas - 1990
Groundhog Day - 1993
Happy Gilmore - 1996
Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle - 2004
Harold and Maude - 1971
He Got Game - 1998
He qi dao (Lady Kung Fu) - 1972
Heat - 1995
Hoop Dreams - 1994
Hoosiers - 1986
Huang jia shi jie (Yes, Madam) - 1985
Independence Day - 1996
Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom - 1984
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 1989
Iron Man - 2008
It's A Wonderful Life - 1946
JFK - 1991
Jaws - 1975
Jerry Maguire - 1996
Jurassic Park - 1993
Just Friends - 2005
Karate Kid - 1984
Kelly's Heroes - 1970
Kill Bill Vol. - 2004
Kill Bill Vol. 1 - 2003
Kung Fu Hustle - 2004
L.A. Confidential - 1997
Last of the Mohicans - 1992
Lawrence of Arabia - 1962
Lethal Weapon - 1987
Liar Liar - 1997
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - 1998
Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Special Extended Edition - 2001
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Special Extended Edition - 2002
Lost Highway - 1997
Lost in Translation - 2003
Léon aka The Professional - 1994
Mad Max - 1980
Made - 2001
Malcolm X - 1992
Man Bites Dog - 1992
Man on Fire - 2004
Man on the Moon - 1999
March of the Penguins - 2005
Me Myself & Irene - 2000
Memento - 2000
Menace II Society - 1993
Metallica: Some Kind Of Monster - 2004
Miracle on 34th Street - 1947
Mommie Dearest - 1981
Monty Python and the Holy Grail - 1975
Monty Python's Life Of Brian - 1979
Moulin Rouge! - 2001
Mr. Smith Goes To Washington - 1939
Mr. and Mrs. Smith - 2005
Mulholland Drive - 2001
My Cousin Vinny - 1992
Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie - 1996
Naked Gun - 1988
Napoleon Dynamite - 2004
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - 1989
National Lampoon's Vacation - 1983
Natural Born Killers - 1994
No Country For Old Men - 2007
Notting Hill - 1999
O Brother, Where Art Thou? - 2000
Ocean's Eleven - 2001
Office Space - 1999
Old School - 2003
Once - 2007
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - 1975
Out of Sight - 1998
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - 2003
Pitch Black - 1999
Poltergeist - 1982
Predator - 1987
Pride & Prejudice - 2005
Psycho - 1960
Pulp Fiction - 1994
Purple Rain - 1984
Raging Bull - 1980
Raiders of the Lost Ark - 1981
Rambo - 2008
Rambo: First Blood - 1983
Rear Window - 1954
Rebel Without A Cause - 1955
Remember The Titans - 2000
Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins - 1987
Reservoir Dogs - 1992
Return of the Master Killer - 1980
Robocop (20th Anniversary Edition) - 1987
Rocky - 1976
Rope - 1948
Rounders - 1998
Rudy - 1993
Rumble In the Bronx - 1995
Rushmore - 1998
Sands of Iwo Jima - 1949
Saving Private Ryan - 1998
Schindler's List - 1993
Se7en - 1995
Searching for Bobby Fischer - 1993
Serenity - 2005
Seven Grand Masters - 1978
Seven Samurai - 1954
Shadow of a Doubt - 1943
Shao Lin san shi liu fang (The Master Killer, aka The 36th Chamber of Shaolin) - 1978
Silence of the Lambs - 1991
Sin City - 2005
Siu nin Wong Fei Hung ji: Tit Ma Lau (Iron Monkey) - 1993
Sleepers - 1996
Sliding Door - 1997
Snatch - 2000
So I Married An Axe Murderer - 1993
South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut - 1999
Spaceballs - 1987
Spellbound - 2002
Spider-man - 2004
Spider-man - 2002
Spy Game - 2001
Stand By Me - 1986
Star Wars - Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - 1983
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope - 1977
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back - 1980
Steel Magnolias - 1989
Superbad - 2007
Swingers - 1996
Team America: World Police - 2004
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (Extended Special Edition) - 1991
The 40 Year Old Virgin - 2005
The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert - 1994
The American President - 1995
The Big Boss - 1971
The Birdcage - 1996
The Blood of Heroes - 1989
The Bourne Identity - 2002
The Breakfast Club - 1985
The Caine Mutiny - 1954
The Cider House Rules - 1999
The Count of Monte Cristo - 2002
The Crow - 1994
The Dark Knight - 2008
The Departed - 2006
The Endless Summer - 1966
The English Patient - 1996
The Fifth Element - 1997
The Fugitive - 1993
The Game - 1997
The Godfather - 1972
The Godfather: Part II - 1974
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly - 1966
The Goonies - 1985
The Green Mile - 1999
The Heart of the Game - 2005
The Hunt For Red October - 1990
The Incredibles - 2004
The Italian Job - 2003
The Last Dragon - 1985
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Special Extended Edition - 2003
The Lost Boys - 1987
The Magnificent Seven - 1960
The Matrix - 1999
The Natural - 1984
The Outlaw Josey Wales - 1976
The Patriot - 1998
The Peacemaker - 1997
The Prestige - 2006
The Princess Bride - 1987
The Producers - 1968
The Ref - 1994
The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2) - 1981
The Rocky Horror Picture Show - 1975
The Shawshank Redemption - 1994
The Shining - 1980
The Sixth Sense - 1999
The Sting - 1973
The Terminator - 1984
The Thing - 1982
The Truman Show - 1998
The Usual Suspects - 1995
The Way We Were - 1973
The Wizard of Oz - 1939
There's Something About Mary - 1998
This Is Spinal Tap - 1984
Titanic - 1997
To Kill A Mockingbird - 1962
Tombstone - 1993
Top Gun - 1986
Top Secret! - 1984
Total Recall - 1990
Toy Story - 1995
Training Day - 2001
Tremors - 1990
Tron - 1982
True Lies - 1994
Twister - 1996
Unforgiven - 1992
WALL-E - 2008
Wall Street - 1987
Way of the Dragon - 1972
What's Eating Gilbert Grape - 1993
When Harry Met Sally - 1989
White Christmas - 1954
White Men Can't Jump - 1992
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory - 1971
Wonder Boys - 2000
Young Frankenstein - 1974
Zoolander - 2001

 

[uolj]

By Release Year:

Spoiler

Follow the Fleet - 1936
Bringing Up Baby - 1938
Mr. Smith Goes To Washington - 1939
The Wizard of Oz - 1939
Casablanca - 1942
Shadow of a Doubt - 1943
Arsenic and Old Lace - 1944
It's A Wonderful Life - 1946
Miracle on 34th Street - 1947
Rope - 1948
Sands of Iwo Jima - 1949
Rear Window - 1954
Seven Samurai - 1954
The Caine Mutiny - 1954
White Christmas - 1954
Rebel Without A Cause - 1955
12 Angry Men - 1957
Psycho - 1960
The Magnificent Seven - 1960
Breakfast at Tiffany's - 1961
Lawrence of Arabia - 1962
To Kill A Mockingbird - 1962
Dr Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb - 1964
The Endless Summer - 1966
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly - 1966
Bonnie & Clyde - 1967
2001: A Space Odyssey - 1968
The Producers - 1968
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - 1969
Easy Rider - 1969
Kelly's Heroes - 1970
A Clockwork Orange - 1971
Harold and Maude - 1971
The Big Boss - 1971
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory - 1971
Fist of Fury - 1972
He qi dao (Lady Kung Fu) - 1972
The Godfather - 1972
Way of the Dragon - 1972
American Graffiti - 1973
The Sting - 1973
The Way We Were - 1973
Blazing Saddles - 1974
The Godfather: Part II - 1974
Young Frankenstein - 1974
Jaws - 1975
Monty Python and the Holy Grail - 1975
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest - 1975
The Rocky Horror Picture Show - 1975
All The President’s Men - 1976
Bad News Bears - 1976
Rocky - 1976
The Outlaw Josey Wales - 1976
Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope - 1977
Animal House - 1978
Five Deadly Venoms - 1978
Seven Grand Masters - 1978
Shao Lin san shi liu fang (The Master Killer, aka The 36th Chamber of Shaolin) - 1978
Alien - 1979
Apocalypse Now - 1979
Escape From Alcatraz - 1979
Monty Python's Life Of Brian - 1979
Airplane! - 1980
Caddyshack - 1980
Mad Max - 1980
Raging Bull - 1980
Return of the Master Killer - 1980
Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back - 1980
The Shining - 1980
Clash of the Titans - 1981
Mommie Dearest - 1981
Raiders of the Lost Ark - 1981
The Road Warrior (Mad Max 2) - 1981
Conan the Barbarian - 1982
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial - 1982
Fast Times at Ridgemont High - 1982
Poltergeist - 1982
The Thing - 1982
Tron - 1982
A Christmas Story - 1983
National Lampoon's Vacation - 1983
Rambo: First Blood - 1983
Star Wars - Episode VI: Return of the Jedi - 1983
Beverly Hills Cop - 1984
Ghostbusters - 1984
Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom - 1984
Karate Kid - 1984
Purple Rain - 1984
The Natural - 1984
The Terminator - 1984
This Is Spinal Tap - 1984
Top Secret! - 1984
Back to the Future - 1985
Huang jia shi jie (Yes, Madam) - 1985
The Breakfast Club - 1985
The Goonies - 1985
The Last Dragon - 1985
Aliens - 1986
Down by Law - 1986
Ferris Bueller's Day Off - 1986
Hoosiers - 1986
Stand By Me - 1986
Top Gun - 1986
Angel Heart - 1987
Evil Dead II: Dead by Dawn - 1987
Full Metal Jacket - 1987
Lethal Weapon - 1987
Predator - 1987
Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins - 1987
Robocop (20th Anniversary Edition) - 1987
Spaceballs - 1987
The Lost Boys - 1987
The Princess Bride - 1987
Wall Street - 1987
A Fish Called Wanda - 1988
Bloodsport - 1988
Bull Durham - 1988
Die Hard - 1988
Naked Gun - 1988
Dead Poets Society - 1989
Field of Dreams - 1989
Glory - 1989
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 1989
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation - 1989
Steel Magnolias - 1989
The Blood of Heroes - 1989
When Harry Met Sally - 1989
Cry Baby - 1990
Dances with Wolves - 1990
Edward Scissorhands - 1990
Goodfellas - 1990
The Hunt For Red October - 1990
Total Recall - 1990
Tremors - 1990
Boyz 'N the Hood - 1991
JFK - 1991
Silence of the Lambs - 1991
Terminator 2: Judgment Day (Extended Special Edition) - 1991
A Few Good Men - 1992
A League of Their Own - 1992
Blade Runner (The Director's Cut) - 1992
Glengarry Glen Ross - 1992
Last of the Mohicans - 1992
Malcolm X - 1992
Man Bites Dog - 1992
My Cousin Vinny - 1992
Reservoir Dogs - 1992
Unforgiven - 1992
White Men Can't Jump - 1992
Benny & Joon - 1993
Dazed and Confused - 1993
Demolition Man - 1993
Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story - 1993
Fong Sai Yuk (The Legend) - 1993
Groundhog Day - 1993
Jurassic Park - 1993
Menace II Society - 1993
Rudy - 1993
Schindler's List - 1993
Searching for Bobby Fischer - 1993
Siu nin Wong Fei Hung ji: Tit Ma Lau (Iron Monkey) - 1993
So I Married An Axe Murderer - 1993
The Fugitive - 1993
Tombstone - 1993
What's Eating Gilbert Grape - 1993
Above The Rim - 1994
Ace Ventura: Pet Detective - 1994
Clerks - 1994
Dumb and Dumber - 1994
Forrest Gump - 1994
Hoop Dreams - 1994
Léon aka The Professional - 1994
Natural Born Killers - 1994
Pulp Fiction - 1994
The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert - 1994
The Crow - 1994
The Ref - 1994
The Shawshank Redemption - 1994
True Lies - 1994
Apollo - 1995
Before Sunrise - 1995
Braveheart - 1995
Clueless - 1995
Dolores Claiborne - 1995
Goldeneye - 1995
Heat - 1995
Rumble In the Bronx - 1995
Se7en - 1995
The American President - 1995
The Usual Suspects - 1995
Toy Story - 1995
A Time to Kill - 1996
Fargo - 1996
Happy Gilmore - 1996
Independence Day - 1996
Jerry Maguire - 1996
Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie - 1996
Sleepers - 1996
Swingers - 1996
The Birdcage - 1996
The English Patient - 1996
Twister - 1996
Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery - 1997
Boogie Nights - 1997
Chasing Amy - 1997
Contact - 1997
Face/Off - 1997
For Richer or Poorer - 1997
Good Will Hunting - 1997
L.A. Confidential - 1997
Liar Liar - 1997
Lost Highway - 1997
Sliding Door - 1997
The Fifth Element - 1997
The Game - 1997
The Peacemaker - 1997
Titanic - 1997
American History X - 1998
Big Lebowski - 1998
Dark City - 1998
He Got Game - 1998
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - 1998
Out of Sight - 1998
Rounders - 1998
Rushmore - 1998
Saving Private Ryan - 1998
The Patriot - 1998
The Truman Show - 1998
There's Something About Mary - 1998
American Pie - 1999
Fight Club - 1999
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai - 1999
Man on the Moon - 1999
Notting Hill - 1999
Office Space - 1999
Pitch Black - 1999
South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut - 1999
The Cider House Rules - 1999
The Green Mile - 1999
The Matrix - 1999
The Sixth Sense - 1999
Almost Famous - 2000
Amores Perros - 2000
Best in Show - 2000
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - 2000
Gladiator - 2000
Me Myself & Irene - 2000
Memento - 2000
O Brother, Where Art Thou? - 2000
Remember The Titans - 2000
Snatch - 2000
Wonder Boys - 2000
A Knight's Tale - 2001
A.I (Artificial Intelligence) - 2001
Blow - 2001
Donnie Darko - 2001
El espinazo del diablo (The Devils Backbone) - 2001
Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - Special Extended Edition - 2001
Made - 2001
Moulin Rouge! - 2001
Mulholland Drive - 2001
Ocean's Eleven - 2001
Spy Game - 2001
Training Day - 2001
Zoolander - 2001
24 Hour Party People - 2002
About A Boy - 2002
Chicago - 2002
Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - Special Extended Edition - 2002
Spellbound - 2002
Spider-man - 2002
The Bourne Identity - 2002
The Count of Monte Cristo - 2002
Bad Santa - 2003
Finding Nemo - 2003
Gangs of New York - 2003
Kill Bill Vol. 1 - 2003
Lost in Translation - 2003
Old School - 2003
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - 2003
The Italian Job - 2003
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Special Extended Edition - 2003
Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy - 2004
Collateral - 2004
Crash - 2004
Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle - 2004
Kill Bill Vol. - 2004
Kung Fu Hustle - 2004
Man on Fire - 2004
Metallica: Some Kind Of Monster - 2004
Napoleon Dynamite - 2004
Spider-man - 2004
Team America: World Police - 2004
The Incredibles - 2004
Batman Begins - 2005
Just Friends - 2005
March of the Penguins - 2005
Mr. and Mrs. Smith - 2005
Pride & Prejudice - 2005
Serenity - 2005
Sin City - 2005
The 40 Year Old Virgin - 2005
The Heart of the Game - 2005
Apocalypto - 2006
Blood Diamond - 2006
Cars - 2006
Dune (Extended Edition) - 2006
The Departed - 2006
The Prestige - 2006
300 - 2007
American Gangster - 2007
Enchanted - 2007
No Country For Old Men - 2007
Once - 2007
Superbad - 2007
Forgetting Sarah Marshall - 2008
Iron Man - 2008
Rambo - 2008
The Dark Knight - 2008
WALL-E - 2008

 

[Dime Dropper]

Not having participated in the last draft what I really dislike about the rule is that it forces people to go back and look at those movies/lists just to make sure they aren't picking them, which in some ways could taint the draft more than just having everyone redraft their same list would. I won't have any problem picking 20 of my own movies but I don't really want to constantly reference the other draft either.

Yeah, I agree with this. I also think the fun thing about this is seeing the tastes other posters have and if they're similar/different to your own, and restricting most of the films open to be chosen means that a lot of people won't even have heard of a good portion of the films chosen. In such a case, how can you vote for the winner? I'd also speculate that most posters will end up picking at least 5 movies that they aren't even particularly fond of just to make up the numbers. At some point (most likely after the first 6 or 7 rounds) there won't be much worry that your movie is going to be taken. It's also 4 years since the last draft, the memory of it isn't that fresh, and there are a lot of new participants.

So as you can see, I don't like the rule, but I'll roll with it if it's what the majority want.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Yeah, I agree with this. I also think the fun thing about this is seeing the tastes other posters have and if they're similar/different to your own, and restricting most of the films open to be chosen means that a lot of people won't even have heard of a good portion of the films chosen. In such a case, how can you vote for the winner? I'd also speculate that most posters will end up picking at least 5 movies that they aren't even particularly fond of just to make up the numbers.

There were 320 films selected last time around - if we restrict to five repeats per person, that brings us to 80 repeats + 240 old, non-repeats + 240 new films - only 560 total movies. The IMDB has over 25000 films with a user rating over 7.0 so I don't think the pool will be particularly tapped.

The best part is that there will be more opportunity to read a quick blurb about a movie you don't know, get intrigued, and check it out. Might find some new stuff you love.

 

[Warhawk]

Man, so many of the movies on the list last time were favorites. How about 7 or 10 from the list per person? I will work with whatever is the final decision, but I'd vote for a few more than 5. Guess it doesn't really matter though.

 

[GoGoGadget]

So, yeah... As someone firmly of the belief that these drafts have gotten less and less fun as the rules have gotten more and more intense, I'd like to declare my conditional interest in participating. If I'm limited to picking only five of my own previous selections, I'm in. If I'm limited to picking only five of the 320 films selected last time, I'm not.

To clarify my reasons, rather than just make a snotty comment and leave, I share pdx's concern about having to refer to the original list every time I want to pick and/or update my own draft list. Just way more trouble than I want to be bothered with. Having never made much headway in these things trying to go mainstream, if I participate this time I'll be intentionally skewing obscure and my own list likely wouldn't be affected by the rule no matter which way it goes, but 320 is a lot to take off the table right from the start. I also agree that it is unfairly limiting to the number of participants this time around who didn't take part in the first draft.

 

[NoBonus]

I am in if there is a spot for me.

 

[Jespher]

While I admire the purity and fervor of Capt. Factorial and Lowenherz argument, and given the fact that I too agree that this may help liven up a remix draft to prevent the shuffling of picks between the islands I do understand where Dime Dropper is coming from. Given the dissidence regarding rule #10 I am agreeable to rescinding this. Bricklayer's ruling would stand, but rule #10 would be modified to be the Bricklayer Doctrine for all repeat drafts...The Rule of 5s...only 5 repeat picks from YOUR previous lists in a given draft. All other selections are fair game if eligible. Draft members are free to self limit as a test of their individual movie knowledge, but placing this restriction on the entire clan may be a bit draconian. I will follow Lowenherz lead personally, and vow to try to avoid re-picking films, but by no means is this a requirement for all any longer. What say the masses?

 

[Dime Dropper]

While I admire the purity and fervor of Capt. Factorial and Lowenherz argument, and given the fact that I too agree that this may help liven up a remix draft to prevent the shuffling of picks between the islands I do understand where Dime Dropper is coming from. Given the dissidence regarding rule #10 I am agreeable to rescinding this. Bricklayer's ruling would stand, but rule #10 would be modified to be the Bricklayer Doctrine for all repeat drafts...The Rule of 5s...only 5 repeat picks from YOUR previous lists in a given draft. All other selections are fair game if eligible. Draft members are free to self limit as a test of their individual movie knowledge, but placing this restriction on the entire clan may be a bit draconian. I will follow Lowenherz lead personally, and vow to try to avoid re-picking films, but by no means is this a requirement for all any longer. What say the masses?

I think that's a very good idea, but then again, I would! I don't want to ruin it for anyone, so if the majority want it the other way, I'm OK with that. I don't see what's stopping those who want to do it that way from just doing it themselves (which is what you're suggesting).

Seriously though, if you guys want to invoke that rule, don't let me stop you.

 

[uolj]

Seriously though, if you guys want to invoke that rule, don't let me stop you.

Don't worry Dime Dropper, it wasn't just you.

I probably like the current decision best personally. I also like that it more as a general rule applied to all repeat drafts.