Trade Idea: Jason Thompson for Eric Bledsoe

[hammystyle]

The Clippers have four PG's and no backup big men. JT, as a cheap backup fits so well that we could arguably ask for more than just Bledsoe.

Bledose on the Kings is a pure PG prospect albeit one who is about as raw as they come. He shot poorly from 3 last year, but was a pretty good shooter at Kentucky. Physically he is a monster, with a long wingspan, huge hops and a big build. Even if his shot never develops I expect he will be a dynamite defensive player. Maybe overall projecting as a Kyle Lowry type player but with a higher upside because of physical ability and a better jumper. It just might take a while to get there (as it did with Lowry).

The Kings will have control over Lowry for longer, and he might fit a specific need in the backcourt long term that we do not have. Plus maybe he and Cousins are buddies? I believe he has a strong attitude and was considered a leader on that Kentucky team.

This would make more sense if we re-signed Dalembert. If they let him go it might be better to keep JT as a backup big.

 

[Chupacabra]

No. I would never trade an interior player for a perimeter player unless the perimeter player was significantly better. Especially after we just lost Dalembert.

 

[Shabazz916]

No. I would never trade an interior player for a perimeter player unless the perimeter player was significantly better. Especially after we just lost Dalembert.

I agree. Besides bledsoe would be on the bench and we need thompson after we just lost hayes and hickson is only here for 1 year.

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

You had me at "Trade Idea: Jason Thompson".

 

[bajaden]

The Clippers have four PG's and no backup big men. JT, as a cheap backup fits so well that we could arguably ask for more than just Bledsoe.

Bledose on the Kings is a pure PG prospect albeit one who is about as raw as they come. He shot poorly from 3 last year, but was a pretty good shooter at Kentucky. Physically he is a monster, with a long wingspan, huge hops and a big build. Even if his shot never develops I expect he will be a dynamite defensive player. Maybe overall projecting as a Kyle Lowry type player but with a higher upside because of physical ability and a better jumper. It just might take a while to get there (as it did with Lowry).

The Kings will have control over Lowry for longer, and he might fit a specific need in the backcourt long term that we do not have. Plus maybe he and Cousins are buddies? I believe he has a strong attitude and was considered a leader on that Kentucky team.

This would make more sense if we re-signed Dalembert. If they let him go it might be better to keep JT as a backup big.

Bledsoe isn't any more of pure PG prospect than Jimmer is. He's certainlly more athletic than Jimmer, but can't shoot the rock as well. He showed me nothing in college for me to think he's anything like what the perception of a pure PG is. The first time I saw him play he reminded me of Russell Westbrook. And there's certainly nothing wrong with that, but I doubt that anyone would say that Westbrook is a pure PG. Having said that, I like Bledsoe quite a bit, and even picked him as a dark horse in the draft. Problem is, we already have a glut of perimiter players, and many with the title PG. I really doubt we need another one, unless we were to move one.

Another rule is, never trade a good big man for a good little man. Now if the little man is significantly better, then you might do the trade. But with the loss of Hayes, and no apparent replacement, then I'd have to say no on several levels. Also, the Clippers apparently value Bledsoe quite a bit. They refused to put both Bledsoe and Gordon in the Paul trade. I think its their plan to use Bledsoe at the SG position as much as possible.

 

[beb0p]

A few more games like the one on Saturday from JT and I'll be more motivated to do this trade. But until then, no.

However, if the Clips want Travis Outlaw for Bledsoe, I'm game.

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[Shabazz916]

Wat can bledsoe do but ride the bench.

 

[jcassio]

A few more games like the one on Saturday from JT and I'll be more motivated to do this trade. But until then, no.

JT's got some tools, but he frustrates the hell out of me with his low basketball IQ. Or at least it seems like a low basketball IQ since he tends to repeat the same stupid mistakes over and over. And over and over. And over and over. The guy is either as stubborn as a mule, or he's not playing with a full deck.

 

[gunks]

JT seems like he gets into grooves and funks. Doesnt help that our coach is wacky and likes to play him from positions 3-5, as bench, as a starter, and sometimes not at all. The guy needs a role, every time he gets a role (rebounding garbage man) he settles down and plays real well, we've seen it happen the past two seasons where Westphal finally gives him a consistant spot in the rotation and he (JT) ends up giving us nice 12/8/1 type numbers.

I dont like the trade, and I dont want to give up on JT now that we dont have Hayes. I have the feeling that midway through the season people are going to be a lot more down on JJ's lazy ***.

 

[Spike]

No. I would never trade an interior player for a perimeter player unless the perimeter player was significantly better. Especially after we just lost Dalembert.

Mr. Goat Sucker speaks the truth. Given this current roster, why would we want to get even smaller? JT may not be perfect, but he's a dependable 8 pts, 8 rebounds and 2 facepalms per game.

 

[bajaden]

Mr. Goat Sucker speaks the truth. Given this current roster, why would we want to get even smaller? JT may not be perfect, but he's a dependable 8 pts, 8 rebounds and 2 facepalms per game.

Mr. Goat Sucker?

 

[mr. moustache]

Mr. Goat Sucker?

Chupacabras are supposed to drink the blood of goats/sheep.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chupacabra

 

[Telemachus]

JT seems like he gets into grooves and funks. Doesnt help that our coach is wacky and likes to play him from positions 3-5, as bench, as a starter, and sometimes not at all. The guy needs a role, every time he gets a role (rebounding garbage man) he settles down and plays real well, we've seen it happen the past two seasons where Westphal finally gives him a consistant spot in the rotation and he (JT) ends up giving us nice 12/8/1 type numbers.

I dont like the trade, and I dont want to give up on JT now that we dont have Hayes. I have the feeling that midway through the season people are going to be a lot more down on JJ's lazy ***.

I think JT's biggest problem is confidence. He his confidence is high, he plays well. When his confidence is low, he becomes hesitant (which leads to poor play).

 

[Spike]

Mr. Goat Sucker?

Si señor. I'm pretty sure you've seen a few chupacabras down south, especially after a cerveza or three.

 

[IfAt1st]

you had me at "trade idea: Jason thompson".

qft.

 

[Kingster]

If we resign Dally, I'd do the deal. I think we've seen about all the upside that Thompson has available to him. Bledsoe has a ways to go yet. Has a lot of upside.

 

[Bricklayer]

If we resign Dally, I'd do the deal. I think we've seen about all the upside that Thompson has available to him. Bledsoe has a ways to go yet. Has a lot of upside.

A lot of upside maybe, maybe not, but no role or minutes here.

I am not totally agains the idea of trading Jason anymore. If he's going to be a spot minute 4th big, handy as he might be in that role this would likely be his last year here with us anyway. But trading him just to trade him and adding another player who comes in behind a trio of 22/23yr old star guards who wil likely be here for a long tiome doesn;t seem to get us anywhere really.

 

[hammystyle]

The thinking was that Bledsoe possesses a skill which we do not have, which is a PG with defensive ability and athleticism. Even if he did not have many minutes available now, I think he's a prospect with a lot of upside, and the Kings would be in control of him for a few more years.

As currently standing with Hayes contract voided it does not make as much sense to make the trade right now.

Maybe we can aim higher than Eric Bledsoe, but I think JT is our best trade chip. Or maybe Hickson is. But the idea is the same. They are both restricted free agents next year, and we probably will not commit to both. They have reasonable salaries and are decent big men in a year wher many contenders have shallow frontcourts and limited salary availability.

So it's not about Bledso per se, as much as what are the best assets out there from a contender? Xavier Henry and a pick from Memphis? Two first round picks from Boston?

 

[Hallama]

I have a feeling Petrie is waiting on Aaron Brooks and saving a little piece of the cap for him. Even if it turns out to be next offseason. I guess the China 4 can't sign a NBA contract until after the CBA is completed, including playoffs.

 

[sidney]

I'd wait until the deadline to trade Jason and see how this team is doing. If the Salmons experiment blows up we may need JT to bring back a starting SF. Hard to say, but there are a lot of moving parts and a month from now the team weaknesses will be much more clear. A lot of teams would love to get JT as a restricted FA next summer to lock him in as a 3rd big or starter in a rebuild. He has value to bring something back that the team really needs. No need to rush it.

 

[Bricklayer]

I have a feeling Petrie is waiting on Aaron Brooks and saving a little piece of the cap for him. Even if it turns out to be next offseason. I guess the China 4 can't sign a NBA contract until after the CBA is completed, including playoffs.

And I can't imagine what we'd do wiht Aaron Brooks either. I mean seriously, with Jimmer looking like he can play, every single backourt minute on this team could be filled for the next 10 years if we kept these guys together.

 

[kingsfan101]

A lot of upside maybe, maybe not, but no role or minutes here.

I am not totally agains the idea of trading Jason anymore. If he's going to be a spot minute 4th big, handy as he might be in that role this would likely be his last year here with us anyway. But trading him just to trade him and adding another player who comes in behind a trio of 22/23yr old star guards who wil likely be here for a long tiome doesn;t seem to get us anywhere really.

And that's the dilemma we face right now. We have reasonable to solid players at virtually every position, but few, that can be relied on to carry the team. Maybe Reke/Cousins shall get there, but we are far from there yet.

OTOH, despite missing Salmons, and with Sam hopefully back, we didn't see Donte/Cisco on the floor last night. During the regular season, with the shorter rotations, chances are we shall rarely see Donte, Tyler, Isiah, Hassan, even Cisco, JT and maybe even Outlaw.

While the rookies have had only two preseason games so far, the rest have shown that they can play, but need well defined roles and structure, not to talk of minutes. They are unlikely to get them here. The obvious solution is to trade some of them for something better, but that's easier said than done.

 

[Hallama]

Oh, I agree, Bricklayer. Just a Petrie hunch. Much depends on Jimmer's success this season, too.

 

[Glenn]

We far more need a big guy than a small guy. At the least JT gives us 6 more fouls and he is better than that. If we get into foul trouble with the guards or injury problems for that matter, we always have Garcia to take up the slack. It is more difficult to find a big guy in an emergency than a small guy.

At some point we need to settle down and let a bunch of guys get to know each other and become a team. Moving people just because you can is disruptive.

 

[Entity]

Yeah I like having depth but the 4th guard should really be a guy like Pooh Jeter, Isaiah Thomas, not another 4 mil + a year contract. As Brick said with JT if he is the 4th big with spot min this season don't expect him to resign next year of course JJ and Daly are up in the air next season as well so we will see.

 

[Prince_XY]

This thread is crazy. We're set on guards and somebody wants to get another one. Worse, one that is not even a top tier and at the expense of a serviceable BIG.

 

[swisshh]

If Landry Fields gets his minutes pushed out in NY, I think he could help the Kings. The team needs a guard to run the break, but there isn't really any space for another guard. Fields can take SF minutes and provide some bball IQ.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

seriously? JT is serviceable. it could be worse. look at golden state, they paid a grip for kwame the bust brown.

I had high hopes for hassan but watching the games he's in.. he doesn't block out or fight for position. I'm very concerned. He has alot of god given natural talent but i don't know if he will realize it.

 

[bajaden]

I'm more than willing to trade JT, but not just for the sake of trading him. We have no need for Bledsoe, and all he'd do is muddle up the minutes for the guards we do have. Besides, at the moment Bledsoe hasn't proven anything. Anytime the team makes a trade, I would like that trade to improve the team in some significant way. I don't see this trade accomplishing that. I'd rather wait and see where we are at the trading deadline, and then possibly make a move.

 

[lwc]

I'm more than willing to trade JT, but not just for the sake of trading him. We have no need for Bledsoe, and all he'd do is muddle up the minutes for the guards we do have. Besides, at the moment Bledsoe hasn't proven anything. Anytime the team makes a trade, I would like that trade to improve the team in some significant way. I don't see this trade accomplishing that. I'd rather wait and see where we are at the trading deadline, and then possibly make a move.

Agreed!