This CANNOT be it

[Stojakovic]

I took some serious time to think about this trade, and the more I think about it the less sense it makes. I do not understand what would drive a man to accept a deal like this. Not even serious intoxication ,smoking crack or whatever else can justify this. I have a feeling that Peja is going to be traded for Boozer by tomorrow morning, but then again ... Petrie is having a conference NOW.

Somebody go break one of Chris Webber's fingers. Maybe there will be a Mateen-Jumaine Jones situation afterall.

I don't get it. Petrie is smart, but he just traded a 100 dollar bill for a loonie.

 

[Bricklayer]

I took some serious time to think about this trade, and the more I think about it the less sense it makes. I do not understand what would drive a man to accept a deal like this. Not even serious intoxication ,smoking crack or whatever else can justify this. I have a feeling that Peja is going to be traded for Boozer by tomorrow morning, but then again ... Petrie is having a conference NOW.

Somebody go break one of Chris Webber's fingers. Maybe there will be a Mateen-Jumaine Jones situation afterall.

I don't get it. Petrie is smart, but he just traded a 100 dollar bill for a loonie.

I just can't see Peja being traded now. I have this sneaking sinking suspicion this was about Peja, which is just...icky. And in any case, regardless of whether it was or not, we got back 2 PFs and SF, already have Darius, so have no idea what we would do with another PF. Sure Utah would jump at the deal, but if there's any truth we turned down Odom for Peja, can't see us taking Boozer.

 

[SacTownKid]

Together Peja and Webb meant one or the other not getting the right opprotunities, Peja will now get out from the backseat and have a chance prove his status as the franchise player.

 

[Padrino]

I just can't see Peja being traded now. I have this sneaking sinking suspicion this was about Peja, which is just...icky. And in any case, regardless of whether it was or not, we got back 2 PFs and SF, already have Darius, so have no idea what we would do with another PF. Sure Utah would jump at the deal, but if there's any truth we turned down Odom for Peja, can't see us taking Boozer.

thats what you would call adding insult to injury. if the kings had actually passed up odom for peja+b-jax, and bit on this deal....whoa....i might seriously consider going into a retirement from kings basketball. thats more than "icky." there's no word to describe the stupidity of that scenario, which is why i hope it is untrue.

 

[Stojakovic]

thats what you would call adding insult to injury. if the kings had actually passed up odom for peja+b-jax, and bit on this deal....whoa....i might seriously consider going into a retirement from kings basketball. thats more than "icky." there's no word to describe the stupidity of that scenario, which is why i hope it is untrue.

Honestly, that would be worst trade of all time #2...right behind this one.

I would hesitate to do Peja for Odom straight up, if it was possible let alone add Bobby to the deal.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

I just can't see Peja being traded now. I have this sneaking sinking suspicion this was about Peja, which is just...icky. And in any case, regardless of whether it was or not, we got back 2 PFs and SF, already have Darius, so have no idea what we would do with another PF. Sure Utah would jump at the deal, but if there's any truth we turned down Odom for Peja, can't see us taking Boozer.

WE also lost a power forward, so Darius & Thomas will be our starting and back up power forwards.

 

[Insomniacal Fan]

I was curious, didn't Webber have a no-trade clause in his contract at some point?

 

[SacTownKid]

Well now you know why the Kings refused the Lakers deal. This wasn't a rushed decision people. We have all heard the speculation forever but because our GM has the best poker face in the business we couldn't believe it. The decision to move Webb was made a long, long time ago. Webb getting the absolute control of the team in these recent weeks makes a lot more sense now. They were trying to increase his trade value.

 

[KingKong]

We didn't have to trade anyone. This shouldn't have been an either/or situation. If we wanted to get better defensively and at rebounding we should have played Tag more. Simple as that. This makes zero sense.

 

[Padrino]

Honestly, that would be worst trade of all time #2...right behind this one.

I would hesitate to do Peja for Odom straight up, if it was possible let alone add Bobby to the deal.

are you serious? maybe you misunderstood me. i meant that, given the two choices, which trade should petrie have made. or should he have made a trade at all? my point was, if the peja trade was on the table, but petrie fielded the webber trade instead, he's obviously got some ulterior motive. there's no logic behind the webber trade, we've pretty much all agreed to that. as for bobby jackson...well, what does bobby jackson HONESTLY have to offer the kings anymore? he hasnt played more than a handful of games these past 2 seasons. he's aging, and hampered by injuries, and his contract is nearing expiration. the kings are being dismantled slowly anyways, so why not receive a quality player? whattya think? lamar odom > corliss williamson. i think so.

 

[JohnGalt]

You know what man (sactownkid), that is a pretty sharp observation. If Goeff was that sneaky, to hold back Peja with a sissy injury so Webber could stuff the stat sheet???

Only thing is, we didn't end up with ANY value in return? Couldn't we have gotten better scraps from the Knicks?

Hopefully there is another deal by tomorrow afternoon that just needed a $5M cap filler to make it complete.

 

[Padrino]

You know what man, that is a pretty sharp observation. If Goeff was that sneaky, to hold back Peja with a sissy injury so Webber could stuff the stat sheet???

Only thing is, we didn't end up with ANY value in return? Couldn't we have gotten better scraps from the Knicks?

Hopefully there is another deal by tomorrow afternoon that just needed a $5M cap filler to make it complete.

for real. i dunno about conspiracy theory, but what the hell good is "trade value" if you dont maximize it on the return?

 

[Since93]

It's offical. Petrie is in love with Peja. This is making me sick.

 

[SacTownKid]

You know what man (sactownkid), that is a pretty sharp observation. If Goeff was that sneaky, to hold back Peja with a sissy injury so Webber could stuff the stat sheet???

Only thing is, we didn't end up with ANY value in return? Couldn't we have gotten better scraps from the Knicks?

Hopefully there is another deal by tomorrow afternoon that just needed a $5M cap filler to make it complete.

Well the reports around the league before this season began was that Webber could never be traded period. Guess they were wrong. I didn't incline that Peja was held out for the sake of trading Webber, rather that Webber was given the best opprotunity to shine, which he did beyond anyones expectations I might add..

 

[ovrush]

only trade that makes sense now is Peja and some of the guys we just got for melo and any one of the Nugs bigs (Kmart, Camby, Nene) Chances of this happening are minimal I think.

 

[VF21]

Together Peja and Webb meant one or the other not getting the right opprotunities, Peja will now get out from the backseat and have a chance prove his status as the franchise player.

Let's see. We let JJ go to develop Wallace.

Now we've moved Webber for some stale cheese steak sandwiches and a soggy bag of chips to allow Peja to prove his status as the franchise player.

If that's the case, Peja has a lot of growing up to do and he'd better do it RIGHT NOW.

I expect and demand to see total dedication, heart and desire out of him. I want to see rebounding and I demand that he start acting like he's 6'10" and not some little 6'3" semi-forward. I want to see dunks; I want to see lay-ups that don't look like balloons with the strings cut.

Webber is gone; Peja has a lot to prove. He damned well better start tomorrow night!!!

 

[VF21]

Well the reports around the league before this season began was that Webber could never be traded period. Guess they were wrong. I didn't incline that Peja was held out for the sake of trading Webber, rather that Webber was given the best opprotunity to shine, which he did beyond anyones expectations I might add..

AS far as Webber not being traded goes, I think most of us were assuming we'd get something at least in the same ballpark as far as value goes. Silly us...

 

[love_them_kings]

Let's see. We let JJ go to develop Wallace.

Now we've moved Webber for some stale cheese steak sandwiches and a soggy bag of chips to allow Peja to prove his status as the franchise player.

If that's the case, Peja has a lot of growing up to do and he'd better do it RIGHT NOW.

I expect and demand to see total dedication, heart and desire out of him. I want to see rebounding and I demand that he start acting like he's 6'10" and not some little 6'3" semi-forward. I want to see dunks; I want to see lay-ups that don't look like balloons with the strings cut.

Webber is gone; Peja has a lot to prove. He damned well better start tomorrow night!!!

I hope so. I like Peja (or at least I did before tonight, right now I'm feeling very bitter against anyone, and I mean anyone, that might have influenced this trade in ANY way) but heart and desire don't really come to mind when I think of him. 90% of this team's heart and desire is probably packing.

 

[Vlad]

Let's see. We let JJ go to develop Wallace.

Now we've moved Webber for some stale cheese steak sandwiches and a soggy bag of chips to allow Peja to prove his status as the franchise player.

If that's the case, Peja has a lot of growing up to do and he'd better do it RIGHT NOW.

I expect and demand to see total dedication, heart and desire out of him. I want to see rebounding and I demand that he start acting like he's 6'10" and not some little 6'3" semi-forward. I want to see dunks; I want to see lay-ups that don't look like balloons with the strings cut.

Webber is gone; Peja has a lot to prove. He damned well better start tomorrow night!!!

agreed. I'd even say he has a lot more than a lot to prove, especially after the stinker of a year he's had so far.

 

[Vlad]

AS far as Webber not being traded goes, I think most of us were assuming we'd get something at least in the same ballpark as far as value goes. Silly us...

It's hard to get any value for an aging post-injury player making $20 mil a year on the downside of his career. The sixers wouldn't even give us glenn robinson for webber! I'm surprised petrie even found a taker for webber. Webber's wonderful, but that's just my emotions speaking. The NBA is a hard business, and if I was a GM, I would have to get a damn good deal to take on Webber's contract. Something like this one, but even then I'd think long and hard...

 

[Kev.in]

The pressure is on Peja. People are going to look at this trade in pretty much the same way as the deal that split Shaq and Kobe. Whether or not it's 100% factually correct, the fans see it as Kobe/Peja forcing the organization's hand. Kobe wasn't ready for the pressure, I think it wore on him and we're not even through his first season as the only franchise player on the Lakers. We'll see with Peja, who I consider to be less mentally strong as well as less talented than Kobe.

 

[DownunderKing]

I agree with what you said up the top there VF. Peja has to grow up now and take responsibility for his actions as he can't shift the blame anymore.

And we've also forgotten to mention that Webber can also play C, when O isn't playing.

 

[Stojakovic]

Again, that's a bunch of bull.

Peja did not trade Webber, Petrie did. Even if he influenced it, Petrie should have been man enough to make decisions on his own and/or tell Peja to STFU.

 

[Bibby_10]

Well now you know why the Kings refused the Lakers deal. This wasn't a rushed decision people. We have all heard the speculation forever but because our GM has the best poker face in the business we couldn't believe it. The decision to move Webb was made a long, long time ago. Webb getting the absolute control of the team in these recent weeks makes a lot more sense now. They were trying to increase his trade value.

Umm somehow I dont think the increase trade value thingy worked since we got CRAP for him.

 

[Alacron]

You know the messed up thing is that ANY of the ridiculous trade ideas that got slammed on this board in the past few weeks would have been better than what actually went down. I'd rather have got Antoine Walker. Seriously.
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[Vlad]

You know the messed up thing is that ANY of the ridiculous trade ideas that got slammed on this board in the past few weeks would have been better than what actually went down. I'd rather have got Antoine Walker. Seriously.
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I seriously wouldn't.

 

[t5chris]

Although I wish I wasn't right about this Webber trade, I still think that Petrie has another trade planned.

Peja & Bobby Jackson look like the bait. Bobby with his injury, and Peja who will certainly be looking for big money once his option comes along.

He's been looking to build around Brad and Bibby for a long time. And right now, he doesn't have a qualified power forward or shooting guard to do it with. Oh well, my loyalty to the Kings died with Webber. Thanks Petrie

 

[VF21]

It's hard to get any value for an aging post-injury player making $20 mil a year on the downside of his career. The sixers wouldn't even give us glenn robinson for webber! I'm surprised petrie even found a taker for webber. Webber's wonderful, but that's just my emotions speaking. The NBA is a hard business, and if I was a GM, I would have to get a damn good deal to take on Webber's contract. Something like this one, but even then I'd think long and hard...

DOWNSIDE of his career? Maybe in a couple of years but not this year.

I'm speechless.

 

[ovrush]

Webb's contract is bad yes, but for a team looking to find a piece that can put them over the edge he is still a top tier talent. He shouldn't be as hard to trade as everyone is making it seem. Add Cwebb to almost any eastern conference playoff team and its huge. Webb and AI alone should be enough for Phili to make a deep playoff run. You're telling me we couldn't get a draft choice, or Dalmebert, or even Korver from Phili when they just got themselves a chance at the Finals with 2 superstars? The contract is bad, but we helped them get rid of three equally bad contracts. I'm not buying that this trade had anything to do with the contract. There are 2 possible reasons:
1. Placate Peja - not making me feel ANY better about being a Kings fan
2. Web's knee is about to spontaneously combust and may in fact injure the guy whose locker is next to his. This trade thus saves that unfortunate sole from possible fragmentation injuries.

 

[Alacron]

The NBA is a hard business, and if I was a GM, I would have to get a damn good deal to take on Webber's contract. Something like this one, but even then I'd think long and hard...

Take off the anti-Webber colored glasses. The contracts given up by Philly are WORSE than Webber's; after he's off the books we'll still be paying these scrubs. How is this a good thing?
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