Summer movements..?

[Smills91]

Anyone know of a site that keeps track of the capspace available and Free agents available during this off-season.

I know the Pistons spent their's and got CV/Gordon
Memphis took on Randolph's deal
Toronto got Hedo
Atlanta got Bibby/Crawford

That leaves OKC, Sacto, and Portland under the cap.

I'm just curious if we can facilitate a deal with FA to improve our long term prospects or if we could outright sign a FA and improve immediately.

I just was wondering if anyone knew of a good site that was tracking teams cap situations AND FA's
Thanks

 

[Section 101]

Official numbers come out tomorrow. All the hand shake deals are based on estimates of cap numbers.

 

[bajaden]

Anyone know of a site that keeps track of the capspace available and Free agents available during this off-season.

I know the Pistons spent their's and got CV/Gordon
Memphis took on Randolph's deal
Toronto got Hedo
Atlanta got Bibby/Crawford

That leaves OKC, Sacto, and Portland under the cap.

I'm just curious if we can facilitate a deal with FA to improve our long term prospects or if we could outright sign a FA and improve immediately.

I just was wondering if anyone knew of a good site that was tracking teams cap situations AND FA's
Thanks

http://www.nba.com/freeagents/2009/

This one will at least help you with tracking freeagents. Whose available and who has signed and with who.

 

[fnordius]

I don't think that anyone's able to track the cap space, because I don't think the cap for this year has been announced yet. It's expected to be around $57M, somewhat lower than last year. We currently have about $51M committed, and, while being under no obligation under the CBA to add any more players, we're one shy of the 14 that Geoff seems to prefer. So you can expect that we'll acquire one more player, at $6M or less. Maybe a lot less, based on recent actions.

As for other teams, several sites have the payroll figures for all the teams, it's not hard to find. You'll have to add in the salaries of any draft picks, but those are roughly the same as they've been for a while, so a list like this gives you all the info you'll need.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

...while being under no obligation under the CBA to add any more players, we're one shy of the 14 that Geoff seems to prefer.

We only have 12 right now, probably technically 11 because I don't think Brockman is signed (we can safely assume that Evans/Casspi will sign their guaranteed contracts):

Evans/Udrih/Rodriguez
Martin/Garcia
Nocioni/Greene/Casspi
Thompson/Thomas
Hawes

 

[fnordius]

We only have 12 right now, probably technically 11 because I don't think Brockman is signed...

Oh, right. I sloppily counted the ghost of Mikki, who is still on our payroll for $2M.

So in the unlikely event that we keep Brockman, we'll be 2 shy of Geoff's magic number, otherwise we'll be 3 short. With a maximum of $6M to spend, I'm thinking it's a pretty sure bet that remaining FA signings will be cheap bench filler.

 

[bajaden]

Oh, right. I sloppily counted the ghost of Mikki, who is still on our payroll for $2M.

So in the unlikely event that we keep Brockman, we'll be 2 shy of Geoff's magic number, otherwise we'll be 3 short. With a maximum of $6M to spend, I'm thinking it's a pretty sure bet that remaining FA signings will be cheap bench filler.

Brockman is going to surprise a lot of people. I'am curious about one thing though. Almost every NBA players height that is listed is his height with his shoes on. But Brockman's height thats listed is with his shoes off. A subtle conspiricy me thinks...

 

[SacTownKid]

Is he? From looking at him in college and next to Tyreke/Casspi he looks about 6'7" in shoes to me. I'd guess he's somewhere between 6'5.5" and 6'6" w/o shoes.

 

[fnordius]

Okay, now we have an official cap figure: $57.7M. And with that information, the floodgates seem to have opened, every FA from Bibby to Sheed to Kidd seems to have agreed to contracts today.

 

[kennadog]

Okay, now we have an official cap figure: $57.7M. And with that information, the floodgates seem to have opened, every FA from Bibby to Sheed to Kidd seems to have agreed to contracts today.

Maybe because no one could officially sign a deal until today and teams would know the cap.

 

[Smills91]

So by my calculations the Kings have around 7.1 million dollars in cap space.

57.7 - 50.53 = 7.16 Million in cap space.

That means we could max out a free agent at 5 years 42.5 million dollars.

OR we could use that cap space to absorb additional salary via trade.

 

[Section 101]

So by my calculations the Kings have around 7.1 million dollars in cap space.

57.7 - 50.53 = 7.16 Million in cap space.

That means we could max out a free agent at 5 years 42.5 million dollars.

OR we could use that cap space to absorb additional salary via trade.

Now keep in mind the league office also sent out a message that they expect the cap number to drop again next year to 53 million and the lux tax to drop a few mil more too.

 

[HighTopKicks]

So by my calculations the Kings have around 7.1 million dollars in cap space.

57.7 - 50.53 = 7.16 Million in cap space.

That means we could max out a free agent at 5 years 42.5 million dollars.

OR we could use that cap space to absorb additional salary via trade.

Did Evans, Casspi, & Brockman actually sign contracts? Because Evans & Casspi numbers are the rookie base numbers and they can sign for up to 20% more. And, Brockman's number seem too high for a guy that was picked 15 picks after Casspi.

In addition we only have a 12 man roster with these 3 guys, so we have to sign at least one more but probably 2 more. Which means that if the 1st rounders negotiate a higher contract and we sign an additions undrafted player, the cap space number could be as low as $6M.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Did Evans, Casspi, & Brockman actually sign contracts? Because Evans & Casspi numbers are the rookie base numbers and they can sign for up to 20% more. And, Brockman's number seem too high for a guy that was picked 15 picks after Casspi.

In addition we only have a 12 man roster with these 3 guys, so we have to sign at least one more but probably 2 more. Which means that if the 1st rounders negotiate a higher contract and we sign an additions undrafted player, the cap space number could be as low as $6M.

I haven't seen any word of our picks signing contracts yet. Since they haven't signed, Evans and Casspi will have cap holds equal to the base numbers until they sign. So the smart thing to do is to use our cap space first (to the extent we intend to) before signing them. We can then turn around and sign them to the 120% value without any repercussions.

Update: Apparently we did sign Tyreke Evans; there's a small blurb at kings.com. Contract terms not announced, as usual.

Brockman should have no cap hold at all because he's a second round pick (and will more likely get a salary in the $400K region if we sign him).

 

[=LarryLegend=]

Reke signed today.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Even though Evans signed he would have counted against the cap just the same. Same with Casspi. Brockman doesn't though.

 

[dbfish]

I haven't seen any word of our picks signing contracts yet. Since they haven't signed, Evans and Casspi will have cap holds equal to the base numbers until they sign. So the smart thing to do is to use our cap space first (to the extent we intend to) before signing them. We can then turn around and sign them to the 120% value without any repercussions.

Update: Apparently we did sign Tyreke Evans; there's a small blurb at kings.com. Contract terms not announced, as usual.

Brockman should have no cap hold at all because he's a second round pick (and will more likely get a salary in the $400K region if we sign him).

GP might be content with the roster now and just add John Bryant from the summer league squad to fill out the roster for now and wait for the trade deadline to see what blows our way.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

no need to rush to spend the $$$, our capspace can be used to help teams facilitate trades and get something out of it. (cash, picks, young players)

why think of spending it on mediocre players like mihm, powe etc? they're not going to help our situation. is the playoffs next season our goal?

we're definitely in the drivers seat with the young players & cap space. we can only go up from here by developing our young guys. by playing the young bucks, it'll help us keep our wins low while getting experience and our shot at the lotto next season. i haven't felt so excited about the kings in the past few years.

 

[HighTopKicks]

GP might be content with the roster now and just add John Bryant from the summer league squad to fill out the roster for now and wait for the trade deadline to see what blows our way.

There was a report that Evans did sign for the 120% of the rookie scale or $3.61M. My guess is that Casspi will get between 100% & 120% also. He did sign but I haven't heard the amount yet.

So, with Evans at $3.6 and Casspi at say $1.1 and Brockman at $500K our Base Salary should be around $51M. If we add Bryant, that only leaves us with a roster of 13 which is the league minimum. GP usually runs around 14, so maybe we add another undrafted player like McNeal. So, two more rookie minumum contracts puts us around $51.8M. Leaving us in the neiborhood of $6M in cap space. The only other way I see this not going down is if we sign a Vet Min Center instead of Bryant.

I agree with you. I don't see the Kings spending the cap space before the trade deadline. With $6M in cap space, they can trade Beno's $6M contract for a player in the $12M range. Because the Luxury tax is based on the actual players under contract at the end of the year, the other team could reduce their team salary and potential tax hit by $12M which would be a hugh incentive to do the deal. While the Kings will only actually be paying the increase in salary for 1/3 of the year, so in actual money it would only cost the Maloof's $2M.

Then in 2010, we lose Thomas' contract, and moved Beno, and sign on a better player at some position, and still have money to sign our 1st rounder and still be under the cap. Mean while our rookies get a lot of PT this year. It should be fun to watch and profittable to wait.