Should Kings trade pick for starting PG & lower pick?

[CruzDude]

Let's assume the Kings get #3 or #4 and don't get Griffin or Rubio.

Should they trade their pick for a starting PG or at least for a PG who has 90%+ chance of being their starter plus a lower pick in the draft? Like Fernandez at the Blazers, Andre Miller, or ??? I am not a Nate Robinson fan at all nor Jennings either.

Minnesota has 3 picks in the 1st round (5,18 and 28)

OkCity (4,25), Chicago (16,26), Memphis (6,27) and the Kings have 2 1st round picks each.

Sticking to just PG's, who would make sense and fit with the Kids?

 

[AriesMar27]

if we get the number 1 pick i wouldnt mind trading griffin/#23 to memphis for mayo and jennings then we can trade martin for a real big. like trade martin to utah for boozer.... if he doesnt opt out... instead of a 1year rental of amare you get boozer and thompson comes off the bench for 1 more year. and you would have thomas and boozer as expiring contracts by trade deadline. that could parlay into some interesting pieces.

jennings/beno
mayo/garcia
nocioni/greene
boozer/thompson
hawes/#31 or free agent

 

[Vlade4GM]

if we get the number 1 pick i wouldnt mind trading griffin/#23 to memphis for mayo and jennings then we can trade martin for a real big. like trade martin to utah for boozer.... if he doesnt opt out... instead of a 1year rental of amare you get boozer and thompson comes off the bench for 1 more year. and you would have thomas and boozer as expiring contracts by trade deadline. that could parlay into some interesting pieces.

jennings/beno
mayo/garcia
nocioni/greene
boozer/thompson
hawes/#31 or free agent

Griffin for Mayo and Jennings? You're joking right?

 

[Mad D]

Like Fernandez

Did you mean Rodriguez?

 

[Bricklayer]

Short answer = no. The point is not, and never has been for any team, to "fill out" the roster with competent players. You don't pick this high very often. Take your best shot at an impact player, go home. You can get a "competent" guy anytime once you actually have enough impact players to matter.

 

[AyeCarly]

if we get the number 1 pick i wouldnt mind trading griffin/#23 to memphis for mayo and jennings then we can trade martin for a real big. like trade martin to utah for boozer.... if he doesnt opt out... instead of a 1year rental of amare you get boozer and thompson comes off the bench for 1 more year. and you would have thomas and boozer as expiring contracts by trade deadline. that could parlay into some interesting pieces.

jennings/beno
mayo/garcia
nocioni/greene
boozer/thompson
hawes/#31 or free agent

I like this team, but replace Jennings with Stephen Curry. He fits the mold of a Petrie team, being a scoring PG. Mayo is definitely a stud. Much better all-around player than KMart and a better defender. If Boozer is able to mesh with the team re-sign him or if not parlay his contract like you said.

 

[AriesMar27]

Griffin for Mayo and Jennings? You're joking right?

no griffin and houstons pick for mayo and their pick which would be jennings or another pg... they dont need jennings, curry, lawson or anyother pg that will be there at their pick and they need a pf more than anything. they have gay so mayo isnt really that big of a loss since they'll get the #1 pick to pair with gasol. id even go as far as taking one of their bad contracts like jaric as well... we can replace martins scoring with mayos for less money and jennings would be a nice piece to have if we cant get rubio.

boozer is just another rental option at pf like amare or bosh. if it works we resign him if not he walks and we sign someone else. it might be a better option than amare since the jazz could use a real sg and boozer will most likely leave anyways. as long as we dont have to give up thompson for him thats a pretty good deal. and we could also trade him during the season if it doesnt work and get our hands on another player that we could use.

this team is bad, really bad.... i know that we all love the players that we have but we arent going to win with them alone. i love the idea of getting rubio but i dont see him improving the team that much record wise next season. with rubio we go from a 17 win team to a 25-30 win team if everyone is healthy. not only that but will he really put butts in the seats at arco arena? i doubt it, i live in los angeles so i cant say how the hometown fans will react to rubio.

trading for jennings, mayo and boozer will give us a much better team and options to improve our team via trade.we would still have cap space to make moves in the off season. boozer and thomas will be huge expiring contracts and if it isnt working boozer we would have serious trade bait. teams will want boozer and or thomas(expiring contract only) by mid february to make a title run or to avoid paying luxury tax. mcgrady is probably done in houston and is an expiring as well maybe the rockets would end up trading tmac for boozer and garcia... we lose nothing but gain all of the flexible pieces that we always wanted for the low, low price of martin and the #1 pick in a weak draft. by the end of the season the only players on our team will be on rookie contracts... with the exception of beno, garcia and nocioni depending on how the potential trades go.

 

[Kings Faithful]

no griffin and houstons pick for mayo and their pick which would be jennings or another pg... they dont need jennings, curry, lawson or anyother pg that will be there at their pick and they need a pf more than anything. they have gay so mayo isnt really that big of a loss since they'll get the #1 pick to pair with gasol. id even go as far as taking one of their bad contracts like jaric as well... we can replace martins scoring with mayos for less money and jennings would be a nice piece to have if we cant get rubio. trading for jennings, mayo and boozer will give us a much better team and options to improve our team via trade.

It would make more sense for them to look to trade Rudy Gay instead of Mayo...I think that would make the most sense for us as well considering we need a starting SF and they have been looking to move Gay from what I've heard. That way we don't have to give up Martin.

Griffin/Houston Pick for Gay/Memphis Pick

Lotto Pick/Beno Udrih
Kevin Martin/Francisco Garcia
Rudy Gay/Andris Nocioni
Jason Thompson/Draft Pick or FA
Spencer Hawes/Draft Pick or FA

 

[AriesMar27]

It would make more sense for them to look to trade Rudy Gay instead of Mayo...I think that would make the most sense for us as well considering we need a starting SF and they have been looking to move Gay from what I've heard. That way we don't have to give up Martin.

Griffin/Houston Pick for Gay/Memphis Pick

Lotto Pick/Beno Udrih
Kevin Martin/Francisco Garcia
Rudy Gay/Andris Nocioni
Jason Thompson/Draft Pick or FA
Spencer Hawes/Draft Pick or FA

i was thinking that but i just like mayos game so damn much....

 

[vikinginferno]

It would make more sense for them to look to trade Rudy Gay instead of Mayo...I think that would make the most sense for us as well considering we need a starting SF and they have been looking to move Gay from what I've heard. That way we don't have to give up Martin.

Griffin/Houston Pick for Gay/Memphis Pick

Lotto Pick/Beno Udrih
Kevin Martin/Francisco Garcia
Rudy Gay/Andris Nocioni
Jason Thompson/Draft Pick or FA
Spencer Hawes/Draft Pick or FA

We would have to give up more than this. Probably either a future 1st rounder or nocioni/garcia. We might also have to take a bad contract from them.

 

[Henkel]

Memphis isn't going to trade Mayo or Gay for anything less then a established all-star. You don't rebuild by trading really good young talent for picks that just makes no sense, its a step backwards.

 

[AriesMar27]

i dont know... they have no one at pf and mayo & gay are basically the same player. their top pick wont get them a player that they need, jennings, lawson, evans... they need a big and if we offer both 1st rounders and maybe cash or take back a bad contract like jaric i dont see why they would have such a problem. and i would have no problem trading garcia or nocioni but i dont see why the grizzlies would want either player.

 

[Henkel]

i dont know... they have no one at pf and mayo & gay are basically the same player. their top pick wont get them a player that they need, jennings, lawson, evans... they need a big and if we offer both 1st rounders and maybe cash or take back a bad contract like jaric i dont see why they would have such a problem. and i would have no problem trading garcia or nocioni but i dont see why the grizzlies would want either player.

Mayo and Gay are not the same player. Thats like saying Hawes and Thompson are the same player because they are both big men. Both are athletic perimeter players but skills wise they bring different thinks to the table. Gay and Mayo are young and seemingly have all star level talent, no team would ever trade away a young core like that to move up 5 spots and get a late round pick. Memphis does need a big man but they are not going to shoot them selfs in the foot in order to get one.

 

[Kings Faithful]

i dont know... they have no one at pf and mayo & gay are basically the same player. their top pick wont get them a player that they need, jennings, lawson, evans... they need a big and if we offer both 1st rounders and maybe cash or take back a bad contract like jaric i dont see why they would have such a problem. and i would have no problem trading garcia or nocioni but i dont see why the grizzlies would want either player.

The only thing that Mayo and Gay have in common is that they are both B Stars right now...other than that, their games are pretty different. I agree with the statement that Memphis will probably not trade either player but since I heard they were looking to ship Gay last season i figured I would throw that out their. I think its an option if we wan't to explore it.

 

[bajaden]

i dont know... they have no one at pf and mayo & gay are basically the same player. their top pick wont get them a player that they need, jennings, lawson, evans... they need a big and if we offer both 1st rounders and maybe cash or take back a bad contract like jaric i dont see why they would have such a problem. and i would have no problem trading garcia or nocioni but i dont see why the grizzlies would want either player.

I thought maybe I missed something, but then I went back and looked at the original question, and I hadn't. I believe that Cruzy asked, that if we ended up with the 3rd or 4th pick, would you trade that for an established point guard. Soooo, I don't think we'll be able to draft Griffin with the 4th pick and therefore, I don't think we'll be able to make your trade.......

 

[Henkel]

Bajaden makes a good point this thread has gotten off topic.

I wouldn't trade the #3 or #4 for a established point guard. If we were close to being a winning a team then i would consider it. We are in the position to develop talent at the cost of winning, considering winning a few more games via veteran talent is pointless, so we should take advantage of it. Being where we are i would rather take a risk on a high potential guy with some question marks. This draft has quite a few players who fit that description and luckily for us a few of them are at the point guard spot. Pick Jennings, Flynn, Teague, or Derozen and hope you can develop them with the rest of this young team.

 

[AriesMar27]

he did say that but i apparently completely ignored that and proposed trading the number 1 pick. in that case i wouldnt do it either....

 

[CruzDude]

Did you mean Rodriguez?

Nope, I meant Fernandez who is 6-6 and can play the point. Rodriguez would do well also but he is the main backup to Blake and less likely to get traded but for a first rounder.............but anything is possible. Less likely when its 2 west coast teams tho' in different divisions.

 

[bigbadred00]

I live in Memphis, The Grizzles aren't going to trade Mayo for just about anything any team will offer (I don't mean they won't trade Mayo for LBJ, or something ridiculous, but otherwise they aren't going to move him)--Gay is another story. They are trying to build around Mayo as their star and they think they found it.......while Gay has really taken a step back this off-season. You are much more likely to get Gay than Mayo this off-season Mayo is a shooter while Gay penetrates more and is skinner and taller.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

I bet if we get 3 or 4 Geoff does pick Brandon Jennings. hes scouting Ricky and Brandon now.

 

[KingsInBrazil]

Let's assume the Kings get #3 or #4 and don't get Griffin or Rubio.

Should they trade their pick for a starting PG or at least for a PG who has 90%+ chance of being their starter plus a lower pick in the draft? Like Fernandez at the Blazers, Andre Miller, or ??? I am not a Nate Robinson fan at all nor Jennings either.

Minnesota has 3 picks in the 1st round (5,18 and 28)

OkCity (4,25), Chicago (16,26), Memphis (6,27) and the Kings have 2 1st round picks each.

Sticking to just PG's, who would make sense and fit with the Kids?

We should've stealed one of the Chicago's 1st round picks in the Miller/Salmons trade.. now I think its a bit late to think on a trade with them... both OkCity and Memphis really doesnt need another pick (they already have a core of young players)... Maybe the Wolves could be interested in 2 picks in the top 10 but what starting PG they have? Telfair? lol all they have at guard besides Foye (and they wont give up on him) is junk...