Should Boogie shut it down for rest of season?

Should Boogie shut it down for the rest of the season?


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Why waste his prime like this? You wanna see what happens to an All-star center with insanely high usage rates? Look at Dwight Howard, heʻs only 5 years older then Boogie and has been fighting nagging injuries for a couple of seasons now.

And a slim hope that Mudiay or Russell could help turn this franchise around. LIKE WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED LILLARD.
 
Absolutely not. This is the perfect time to start implenting Karl's system in real games before they actually matter next season. Start developing good habits, find out who REALLY can fit next to Cousins.

Let's put it this way. There should 0 questions as to who we think can be a long-term fit with Cuz heading into this off-season (assuming he does come back and play the rest of the year)
 
Absolutely not.

We got set back a full season by all this front office nonsense, but the back 1/3 of this season is the perfect time for Boogie and Karl to get on the same page, and get ironed out what has to happen this summer. Far from being time to shut it down, I think its a critical time for him to get back on that damn floor. We can;t start another season not knowing, again. We have to establish what is going to happen next season now.
 
If someone is hurt they should rest. Otherwise they are here to play. I think if you have any other mentality, effort will suffer. How can you sit guys and expect everyone else to work hard. I think Cousins should see what players with longevity are doing to stay healthy for the long haul.
 
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Naaaaah, he's banged up, but it isn't anything serious.

No more tanking. I think we can actually win some with Karl. Let's let the cards fall where they may... is that a phrase?
 
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come back boogie we want to win and set ourselves up for the playoffs next season. rest up if your hurting though big fella
 
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Why waste his prime like this? You wanna see what happens to an All-star center with insanely high usage rates? Look at Dwight Howard, heʻs only 5 years older then Boogie and has been fighting nagging injuries for a couple of seasons now.

And a slim hope that Mudiay or Russell could help turn this franchise around. LIKE WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED LILLARD.
It's a bit of a contradiction don't you think you say why waste his prime but by him not playing and therefore him not getting better is that not in itself wasting his prime? Cousins still has a ton of things to improve on so why wouldn't you play him to try improve those things?

Also comparing Dwight a low skill player who's entire game revolves around quickness/leaping and basically purely athletic ability/defensive instincts to a skilled player/below the rim like Cousins is just not a good comparison, it would be like comparing a young Andre Miller to Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook.
 
Why waste his prime like this? You wanna see what happens to an All-star center with insanely high usage rates? Look at Dwight Howard, heʻs only 5 years older then Boogie and has been fighting nagging injuries for a couple of seasons now.

And a slim hope that Mudiay or Russell could help turn this franchise around. LIKE WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE DRAFTED LILLARD.

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OP what kind of question is that? This losing mentality is infectious and seems like you've fallen victim to it. This "it's okay to lose now because we're not going to the playoffs" mindset is disgusting.
 
Dislike.

OP what kind of question is that? This losing mentality is infectious and seems like you've fallen victim to it. This "it's okay to lose now because we're not going to the playoffs" mindset is disgusting.

So I guess everyone would rather throw max contracts at Rondo/Dragic this offseason?

What free agents do you realisticly see us attracting here?

We already tanked half the season, why not finish the job that they started when they hired Corbin for the rest of the season?

And I never said it was OK to lose, I just want Boogie to play 75 games a year past the age 30.

Edit: Also, we have almost no trade assets for this offseason...if we end up with the 11-14 pick we are extra screwed on assets!
 
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There is no way the Kings will "shut down" Boogie if he's physically able to play. And they shouldn't.
 
So I guess everyone would rather throw max contracts at Rondo/Dragic this offseason?

What free agents do you realisticly see us attracting here?

We already tanked half the season, why not finish the job that they started when they hired Corbin for the rest of the season?

And I never said it was OK to lose, I just want Boogie to play 75 games a year past the age 30.

Edit: Also, we have almost no trade assets for this offseason...if we end up with the 11-14 pick we are extra screwed on assets!

For now patience to see who we want to keep around with Karl's changes, a better idea of what we lack, what works together and what does not.

Careful consideration on draft night, and wise investments leading into next season with ideally some hope.

That's what I want for now.

So our FO really needs to listen to Karl, and not be shy about talking with other teams to build a good picture on values of everything.
 
So I guess everyone would rather throw max contracts at Rondo/Dragic this offseason?

What free agents do you realisticly see us attracting here?

We already tanked half the season, why not finish the job that they started when they hired Corbin for the rest of the season?

And I never said it was OK to lose, I just want Boogie to play 75 games a year past the age 30.

Edit: Also, we have almost no trade assets for this offseason...if we end up with the 11-14 pick we are extra screwed on assets!

I'm sorry but I absolutely hate this way of thinking! This idea that losing is EVER in our best interest is absolutely absurd to me. That mindset will knock you out and keep you there permanently. I am dying to see this team succeed and would give up anything to see this team win! I don't give a care about what happens if we finish with a worse record, blah blah blah. Winning is the cure to anything in sports.
 
Oh if we still had Corbin I'd be all about the tank.

Would be foolish to do that now with long term development with some stability now IMO.
 
Oh if we still had Corbin I'd be all about the tank.

Would be foolish to do that now with long term development with some stability now IMO.
Speaking of long term development, where da fuq Nik been? Last few interviews George didʻnt even mention him. :(

For now patience to see who we want to keep around with Karl's changes, a better idea of what we lack, what works together and what does not.

Careful consideration on draft night, and wise investments leading into next season with ideally some hope.

That's what I want for now.

So our FO really needs to listen to Karl, and not be shy about talking with other teams to build a good picture on values of everything.

If we are even a part of draft night, already out our 2nd rounder and our 1st is up in the air.

Currently only

Boogie (15.75)
Rudy (13.25)
Landry (6.5)
JT (6.5)
Darren (5)
Ben (3)
Nik (3)
Ray (1)

Lets say we lose our pick to the Bulls, who out of these guys are we gonna trade? Pretty much everyone not making 8 figures. And in that case, weʻd be lucky to attract 2 mid talent free agents this offseason, we are a team looking to make a splash trade all the time. crap, we signed two FAʻs last offseason and already traded 1 away! AND we are willing to trade the other!

If we continue down this trend, I see us stuck in the same spot the Suns have the past two years. **** THAT. No playoffs, no good draft pick to upgrade talent, basically being stuck in no mans land in the west.

Sure the Spurs and Mavs might start sucking next year, but the Wolves/Lakers/Jazz are also working on improving.

Iʻd much rather do all the dirty now and try turn into a contender then staying stuck in the middle of the pack until Boogie leaves or retires.
 
Karl gets to work with Cousins in basically a practice session with opposition playing for real stakes. I can't imagine a better learning ground for all parties involved. Next season people want results. This season nobody really cares. Shutting it down here would be absurd. If he had a serious injury then sure of course you shut him down. But just an ankle sprain and some hip pain? No way.
 
NO way!!!

DMC and Karl needs to get some chemistry together to build on for next year.

The FO didn't bring Karl to waste away another half year.

Time to learn and learn to win NOW! The Kings got a real NBA coach and they need to build on what they have now.
 
Speaking of long term development, where da fuq Nik been? Last few interviews George didʻnt even mention him. :(



If we are even a part of draft night, already out our 2nd rounder and our 1st is up in the air.

Currently only

Boogie (15.75)
Rudy (13.25)
Landry (6.5)
JT (6.5)
Darren (5)
Ben (3)
Nik (3)
Ray (1)

Lets say we lose our pick to the Bulls, who out of these guys are we gonna trade? Pretty much everyone not making 8 figures. And in that case, weʻd be lucky to attract 2 mid talent free agents this offseason, we are a team looking to make a splash trade all the time. poopoo, we signed two FAʻs last offseason and already traded 1 away! AND we are willing to trade the other!

If we continue down this trend, I see us stuck in the same spot the Suns have the past two years. **** THAT. No playoffs, no good draft pick to upgrade talent, basically being stuck in no mans land in the west.

Sure the Spurs and Mavs might start sucking next year, but the Wolves/Lakers/Jazz are also working on improving.

Iʻd much rather do all the dirty now and try turn into a contender then staying stuck in the middle of the pack until Boogie leaves or retires.

I hope this doesn't come back to bite me in the butt, but the likelyhood of losing our pick is slim. Not impossible, but the odds, fortunately or unfortunately, are in our favor. Beyond that, without knowing where we'll pick, its impossible to predict how much we may or may not improve. We get lucky for a change and move into the top three, the improvement could be huge, if not immediate. If projections prove to be correct in regards to the salary cap next season, and we don't retain any of of our freeagents, we will be somewhere between 14 and 16 mil under the cap. More than enough to acquire a so called impact player, or a couple of good rotational players that are a better fit in Karls system.

While at times, we fans look at everything from the woe is me prospective, I don't. For starters, I don't think we're that far away from being a playoff team. This team falls more into the dysfunctional group than it does the lack of talent group. Insert a good coach (Done), and replace a few of the ill fitting pieces, and your right there knocking on the door. But we want to do more than knock on the door. We want kick down the door and enter the conversation. To do that, we need at least one more impact player, that actually fills an important need. And because I use the word impact, that doesn't necessarily mean an expensive star player. It might be filled through the draft if the ping balls bounce the right way. It might be a player that doesn't fit on his current team, or feels misused on his current team and wants his turn in the sun.

I've never bought into the concept that no one wants to come here because were a small town or at the bottom of the standings. If your an aging veteran looking for his last contract, yeah, then I get it that maybe you'd like to go out with a bang on a contender. But one of the reasons Gay resigned with us was because his wife liked the family atmosphere of Sacramento. Gay liked our dearly departed coach, Malone. My point is that players make their team choices for various reasons. Some just want to play on the west coast. Hell, I doubt it would be hard to convince any player playing on an east coast team that playing in Sacramento has a few climate perks. That said, it comes down to our front office doing their job. Hopefully with Karl on board, they'll have the right imput to make good choices. We should have a draft pick, and we will have money under the cap. And despite what some might think, we do have some assets that are desirable to other teams. So there are no excuses.

I could be a Debbie Downer here. Hell why not, its popular and easy. Problem is, I see no benefit to taking that road. To be honest, if I felt in my heart of hearts, that there was no hope. That no matter what we did, we would always be wallowing in the sewer, I'd find another team to root for. What would be the point of rooting for team that I believed would never get any better? That would be an exercise in futility. On the other hand, if I believed that there was hope. That I could see a light at the end of the tunnel, then I would say so, and I have. Don't mistake my words as being critical of those who find fault with the team. To be critical of a player or a trade, is entirely different than being negative about having any future success. One is specific, while the other breeds hopelessness.
 
I hope this doesn't come back to bite me in the butt, but the likelyhood of losing our pick is slim. Not impossible, but the odds, fortunately or unfortunately, are in our favor. Beyond that, without knowing where we'll pick, its impossible to predict how much we may or may not improve. We get lucky for a change and move into the top three, the improvement could be huge, if not immediate. If projections prove to be correct in regards to the salary cap next season, and we don't retain any of of our freeagents, we will be somewhere between 14 and 16 mil under the cap. More than enough to acquire a so called impact player, or a couple of good rotational players that are a better fit in Karls system.

While at times, we fans look at everything from the woe is me prospective, I don't. For starters, I don't think we're that far away from being a playoff team. This team falls more into the dysfunctional group than it does the lack of talent group. Insert a good coach (Done), and replace a few of the ill fitting pieces, and your right there knocking on the door. But we want to do more than knock on the door. We want kick down the door and enter the conversation. To do that, we need at least one more impact player, that actually fills an important need. And because I use the word impact, that doesn't necessarily mean an expensive star player. It might be filled through the draft if the ping balls bounce the right way. It might be a player that doesn't fit on his current team, or feels misused on his current team and wants his turn in the sun.

I've never bought into the concept that no one wants to come here because were a small town or at the bottom of the standings. If your an aging veteran looking for his last contract, yeah, then I get it that maybe you'd like to go out with a bang on a contender. But one of the reasons Gay resigned with us was because his wife liked the family atmosphere of Sacramento. Gay liked our dearly departed coach, Malone. My point is that players make their team choices for various reasons. Some just want to play on the west coast. Hell, I doubt it would be hard to convince any player playing on an east coast team that playing in Sacramento has a few climate perks. That said, it comes down to our front office doing their job. Hopefully with Karl on board, they'll have the right imput to make good choices. We should have a draft pick, and we will have money under the cap. And despite what some might think, we do have some assets that are desirable to other teams. So there are no excuses.

I could be a Debbie Downer here. Hell why not, its popular and easy. Problem is, I see no benefit to taking that road. To be honest, if I felt in my heart of hearts, that there was no hope. That no matter what we did, we would always be wallowing in the sewer, I'd find another team to root for. What would be the point of rooting for team that I believed would never get any better? That would be an exercise in futility. On the other hand, if I believed that there was hope. That I could see a light at the end of the tunnel, then I would say so, and I have. Don't mistake my words as being critical of those who find fault with the team. To be critical of a player or a trade, is entirely different than being negative about having any future success. One is specific, while the other breeds hopelessness.
I dont even think the small market, or being a consecutove losing team would scare FAs away. Our FO being full of immature, twitter happy retards might though, and that's my worry.

Rudy probably wouldnt have resigned if he waited a month, but at least we got lucky there!

I dont want to get my hopes up, but if the Cavs can win three 1st picks in a decade....meh, it's all rigged. :(
 
Absolutely Not!! Answer to thread question. As many before me are saying, this is the time for Cuz to get experience with Karl's system and to figure out how best he can be used in that system. To learn players have to be on the court and now is the best time so Karl and the FO know what type players are needed for next year to get to the playoffs. 'Cause thats where they are going!!!
 
I don't see the reason to, he needs to establish himself within Karl's system and continue to build chemistry with his team mates, even though it seems a few of them won't be here next season.
 
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