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All-Star
Which one? I like both
Mikal
Which one? I like both
Not a good look for a rookie....or any player player for that matter
Not a good look for a rookie....or any player player for that matter
Sounds like Ariza is going to the Lakers. At what point are James Jones and Lebron guilty of collusion? Just kidding, the league would never charge Lebron with anything. I guess Magic can get another pocket change tampering fine.
Very out of character for Bridges. He's always been a high character professional both on and off the court. Watched him play for three years at Villanova, and never once saw anything like that. Looked like he thought it was a BS call, and wasn't ready at that moment to hear from the coach. The total atmosphere there must be tough right now. Just a guess, but when your one of the few players on the team that's actually trying to defend, you probably don't want to be singled out for a momentary lapse.
Would you trade JJ for Bridges straight up?
I wonder if Boston would be inclined to trade Gordon Hayward and his massive salary to get below the Luxury Tax and clear salary to re-sign Kyrie Irving?
All of our expiring Vet contracts (ZBo, Shump, KK, and Ben) plus 1 or 2 second round picks for Gordon Hayward plus our 2019 1st rounder (which Boston owns) and an additional future 1st rounder?
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7142650
It would save Boston massive salary and a repeat offender Luxury Tax hit next year. Opens up salary to re-sign Kyrie Irving this off season. Also opens up Tatum for more playing time and they won't need to pay his back up $32 million a year for the next 2 seasons.
The Kings get a former All-Star SF, coming off injury, plus 2 first round picks, including our 2019 first rounder back. He has 2 years remaining on his contracts, which comes off the books in time to re-sign our core of Buddy, Fox, and Bagley.
I wonder if Boston would be inclined to trade Gordon Hayward and his massive salary to get below the Luxury Tax and clear salary to re-sign Kyrie Irving?
All of our expiring Vet contracts (ZBo, Shump, KK, and Ben) plus 1 or 2 second round picks for Gordon Hayward plus our 2019 1st rounder (which Boston owns) and an additional future 1st rounder?
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7142650
It would save Boston massive salary and a repeat offender Luxury Tax hit next year. Opens up salary to re-sign Kyrie Irving this off season. Also opens up Tatum for more playing time and they won't need to pay his back up $32 million a year for the next 2 seasons.
The Kings get a former All-Star SF, coming off injury, plus 2 first round picks, including our 2019 first rounder back. He has 2 years remaining on his contracts, which comes off the books in time to re-sign our core of Buddy, Fox, and Bagley.
I'm making you responsible for getting this deal done.![]()
The problem that RealGM's trade checker isn't getting here is that Boston doesn't actually have roster slots to take on a 4-for-1. Additionally, this trade would actually force them to take on MORE money this year while they're over the tax, which would impose an additional salary burden (that I have not bothered to actually calculate). I just don't think Boston would do this at all.
If there were to be a Boston-Kings deal centered around a salary dump of Hayward - assuming Boston actually wants to salary dump Hayward - on the player side it would probably look more like Hayward+Bird+Wanamaker for McLemore+two of (ZBo/Shumpert/Koufos). Those trades work under the cap, saving Boston between about $5.5-$8.0M this year, getting them under the tax level without Boston having to cut anybody (and therefore, keep them on their tax ledger).
That said, they'd be giving up on Hayward - a recent former all-star who hasn't really rebounded from his injury - not only for nothing, but under your scenario actually giving us a reasonably valuable first-round pick back. And if they do that, I think that means they're convinced that Hayward is done. And if Hayward's done, we're paying almost $100M over three years for dead space and what is looking right now like a pick somewhere in the teens. It's the kind of gamble where, if they're willing to do it, maybe we should reconsider.
Here is the thing about Ainge as a GM, he always thinks that he is out smarting whoever he is making a trade with. Just like when he opted for our 2019 draft pick instead of the Lakers 2018 1st round pick, he may wind up with the worse pick by gambling for our pick further away. Sometimes he outsmarts himself.
I’m not a mason fan. I’d go with bogi getting all the backup pg and sg minutes. Fox, buddy, and bogi should get all the 1-2 minutes. Much like Jackson Bibby and Christie. Hot guy gets the most. I’m sure it changes per game. But at no time should mason be inserted there. All 3 should get over 30 minI don't know if the Kings necessarily need a star SF. Not that I would turn one down, but I think a solid, full sized SF that can hit the open shot, pass the ball respectably, and defend is all the Kings really need. A solid three and D player. Porter of course is more than that, and believe me I'd love to have him. It's why I was so high on Mikal Bridges last year. I thought he was the perfect fit for the Kings. A team guy that wants to win. Middleton is another of that type.
I'm not sure that you would lose one of Buddy or Bog's if one had to come off the bench. Both guys are team players, and as long as they got their minutes, I don't know if starting is a big deal to either of them. Not saying your wrong, but Bog's off the bench makes a huge difference to the 2nd unit, and Giles seems to play much better when Bog's in on the floor. Bog's will always get his minutes because besides being able to play SG and SF, he also plays quite a few minutes at the point.
Lets go to La La land and assume for a moment that we acquired Porter. So you could start Fox, Buddy, Porter, Bjelica and Willie. Off the bench you could have Mason, Bog's, Shumpert, Bagley, and Giles. I'd have the ball mostly in Bog's hands. That's if you wanted to go with a 10 man rotation.
Here is the thing about Ainge as a GM, he always thinks that he is out smarting whoever he is making a trade with. Just like when he opted for our 2019 draft pick instead of the Lakers 2018 1st round pick, he may wind up with the worse pick by gambling for our pick further away. Sometimes he outsmarts himself.
So, right now, Boston is mid-tier in the very average East. He knows that Hayward may not be in their long term plans at that salary anymore. Ainge knows he can better use his salary cap for his team needs (i.e. re-sign Kyrie) and he has Tatum, whom he likes a lot. The longer he waits to pull the trigger on a Hawyard salary dump, the more assets he will need to attach.
Ainge knows he needs to clear the decks and re-sign Kyrie this off season. So, if Ainge waits too long and Hayward is relegated to a bench role (behind Tatum and Jaylen Brown), then he won't be able to unload his contract. If Ainge acts now, when it is not clear either way if Hayward is done or not, he may be able to dump the salary without having to attach too many assets to the salary dump, may only need one 1st rounder right now, instead of 2 later. Even if Hayward rebounds to a solid SF in the league, I think Ainge can live with the consequences of dumping his massive salary and only needing to give up one 1st rounder to do it.
I'm banking on the fact that Hayward can at least get back to the level of a solid all-around SF type or borderline All-Star, much like Paul George did after his injury. Either way, his contracts come off the books when the Kings need to re-sign Buddy, Fox and Bagley.
Here is a trade a 2-for-1 Ben trade that could benefit both teams.
We trade Yogi Ferrell and Ben McClemore (and a 2nd rounder?) to Phoenix for Trevor Ariza.
https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7143222
The Kings get a full sized Small Forward with Championship experience. A proven 3 and D small forward. Also, this opens a roster spot to sign Troy Williams to the big league squad.
The Suns get a younger, potential starting Point Guard in Yogi and an ending contract and possible rotation guard in Ben. The Kings can even throw in a late 2nd rounder to complete the deal, if need be. Phoenix is looking for a point guard and they also shed some salary.
I think this would put the Kings solidly in the playoff hunt and we don't give up any integral player that we are playing in the deal.
The Kings would be very formidable, even against the Warriors, I think.
PF: Bjelicia / Bagley / Skal
SF: Ariza / JJ / Williams
C: WCS / KK / Giles
SG: Buddy / Shump
PG: Fox / Bogdan / Mason
Should give them Randolph instead, they'd consider it as a tank move, pick, young cheap pg.
I don't agree that we don't have use for Koufos who can help us win games right now. There's a lot of other pieces we can move first, but if he gets us something good, bye pal.
Willie is the only one of the three I think gets a big offer. We could probably re-sign the other two to two-year team friendly deals. And if some other team goes after them they gone.I agree. The issue is with Shump, Willie, and Kosta is they have to be careful to not cement their cap too quickly even if the locker room vibes deem it practical. The Kings are stuffed in the front court but there is no question that when Kosta plays the team is more solid in those minutes on average.
The great thing about Vlade finally reserving some of that cap is they have plenty of room to make deals without touching certain contracts. They have plenty of space and expirings with just Zbo and Ben to make a splash.
Willie is the only one of the three I think gets a big offer. We could probably re-sign the other two to two-year team friendly deals. And if some other team goes after them they gone.