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I hope Cousins didn't hurt his hand. That's all this team needs
Sorry, but BS like this is one of many things wrong in this world. Especially in today's age where everyone sits on a moral fence passing judgement on social media. Gross overreaction. Rush to judgement w/o all the facts. Pure and simple. Worst yet, no tolerance at all.
Say what you want about Cuz the basketball player. If you don't like him for what he does in his professional life as a member of the Sacramento Kings, fine. But the dude has never been directly involved in anything off the court other than positive things. Not one. And you're done with him because he may have got into a fight? Good grief.
I can't for the life of me figure out how your still a sports fan considering an overwhelming majority of players and personnel in ALL sports have done far worse in their personal lives than get into a bar fight.
I hope Cousins didn't hurt his hand. That's all this team needs
So is Cousins is an idiot? Didn't his bragging just implicate himself in an assault and most likely open himself up for at least a civil suit? smh.
The bigger problem with Barnes on the court is he is supplanting a guy in his 20s in Casspi who loves Sacramento, played great last year, and can still be a big part of this team heading forward.
You apparently know a rather small sample of females. Worst case, he could absolutely get himself cut. But ponder the different scenarios we DON'T KNOW right now:
a) the female just stole his wallet, he grabs her
b) he's drunk and pissed off, she comes on to him, and he says get off me you ugly skanky ***** ***** ******. She goes ballistic and starts hitting him. He chokes her.
c) a guy gets in Barnes face and challenges him to a fight, Barnes starts to oblige, guy's girlfriend get's pissed and hits him as a scuffle ensues, he chokes her
d) she walks up to him and says "nice game loser, bet your wife and the guy she is banging were having a good laugh!", he chokes her
e) he comes on to a girl, she rejects him, he chokes her while trying to force a kiss
f) he walks in the bar and chokes the first woman he meets for the fun of it
etc. etc. etc.
All of it is bad, but you can go from dicey borderline situations all the way to instant cut scenarios. You just don't know yet.
Knowing a "rather small sample of females" ?? Wth does that insinuate? That some deserve to be choked based on the situation?
Please explain better or reiterate what you mean, otherwise sorry that's just disgusting.
That's naive. They are rare, but there are some women who are violent and aggressive. I was attacked by one many years ago. I didn't then, but today I would have done whatever I needed to do to stop her (including putting my hands around her neck). So feel free to live in your perfect world where all the people are friendly and beautiful, and all the children are well-behaved. But that's not the reality I know.There is never any circumstances where it is ok to touch a female.
Sorry, but BS like this is one of many things wrong in this world. Especially in today's age where everyone sits on a moral fence passing judgement on social media. Gross overreaction. Rush to judgement w/o all the facts. Pure and simple. Worst yet, no tolerance at all.
Say what you want about Cuz the basketball player. If you don't like him for what he does in his professional life as a member of the Sacramento Kings, fine. But the dude has never been directly involved in anything off the court other than positive things. Not one. And you're done with him because he may have got into a fight? Good grief.
I can't for the life of me figure out how your still a sports fan considering an overwhelming majority of players and personnel in ALL sports have done far worse in their personal lives than get into a bar fight.
It means exactly what it sounds like.
My dad taught me all the right things about how you treat women, to the degree that I am even probably even a bit quaint in opening doors and the whatnot. But the entire ethos of how you treat women/a lady is based on the idea that the woman/lady is acting in a certain way herself. You never hit a woman because its rank bullying to do so. She would never physically assault you, and its you just using your superior size/strength to bully a smaller and weaker person in pathetic fashion. You in fact should stand up for a women being physically assaulted, and I have.
All great principles....as long as you are dealing with women who have internalized the same rules and behaviors themselves.
Then you get out in life, you encounter people who come from tough backgrounds, you encounter drunks and druggies and all the rest and see how they interact. And it knocks the sheen off the idealism, because the fact is that you can't trust every woman to behave in a benign and unthreatening way. Some women are going to lie, cheat, steal, hit, do drugs, get totally hammered, commit crimes and all the rest. Some, in short, are perfectly capable of being violent, of initiating violence or escalating situations. And that changes the paradigm. Somebody being born big doesn't mean that they are human punching bags not allowed to defend themselves.
WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THERE. Maybe in a few days we will.
What does your gender have to do with it?As one of the few female posters on this board, I'm going to put my two cents in - I agree with Bricklayer and jcassio. And I also agree with those who think it's best to wait until the details are known before making a rush to judgment.
Editing down my post to make your "here's whats wrong with the world" sob story look better. CNN would be proud. Now before you spin this into "fake news"...
DeMarcus Cousins -"I hit the s*** out this ni***!" ::wincing and shaking his shooting hand::
Really?... You think he "may have gotten into a fight"..? Keep on gathering all the facts there, Sherlock.
What I said has nothing to do with morals, tolerance or whatever BS your preaching from atop your soapbox. This incident happened after a loss. In the middle of another God damn losing season. After a decade, I'm over giving out passes and making excuses. If you don't see anything wrong with our franchise player laughing off the fact he could have potentially broke his hand on some dudes face, well then I don't know what to tell you.
There isn't any intelligent discussion to be had until/unless the facts come out - just conjecture and attempts to frame a story one way or the other without the full context of what happened.
Personally I'm not all that concerned with the details of the incident. Maybe I should be, but I'm not. I honestly don't care if Barnes was the victim or the aggressor. I don't care if Cousins was involved in a fight or not.
It just doesn't matter to me at this point.
It's become so hard to root for this team to even win games, I'm not interested in rooting for one of the players to not be at fault or to not be charged with a crime or slapped with a lawsuit.
I don't see this roster being successful. I don't see any way to tweak it to make it successful. I don't see any growth potential.
At this point I'm rooting for the front office to blow it all up and have a competent rebuild for once.
I don't see this roster being successful. I don't see any way to tweak it to make it successful.
I don't see any growth potential.
This remains a bizarre blindspot affecting much of the Kings fanbase, and I just absolutely refuse to let it stand. This team has been in everything all year long. If this team isn't close to being successful (moderately) then there is almost no way a team could show it was close to being successful. Its funny listening to other team's announcers, because they see it, and the team's own fans are so deep in their sorrows that they cannot.
here's one for you: this team absolutely has the potential to be the single best Sacramento Kings team there has ever been outside the Adelman era.
Of course that means almost nothing, because the very best non-Adelman team in franchise history won 39 games. But nonetheless, that would be the point. Such woeing when we are hardly used to better and this time have the best center in the world and a damn good coach to build around. Its bizarre, and unfortunately like many things, a feedback loop where everybody runs around telling each other how woeful it is and sinking ever further. I feel like we're trapped in another election cycle.
This is the larger issue, but again the team was built the way it was on purpose specifically to allow for maximum flexibility going forward. When Kings fans' depression sits in, its a dark one, and even strategic flexibility gets turned on its head as more woe. But the intention obviously is to build the team we want to build, not be tied to the one we have.
The only real basis for confidence in this team is (1) Boogie (2) Rudy (3) Darren (4) Temple. Then you have a bunch of mediocrity and trash. Maybe Ben, Willie and Ty can become positive contributors. But when you have ONLY 4 guys who have met or exceeded expectations amongst a 10-11 man rotation, it is not a basis for a ton of confidence. And don't even start on your boy Barnes. The guy is trash and should be waived.
DeMarcus Cousins -"I hit the s*** out this ni***!" ::wincing and shaking his shooting hand::
Really?... You think he "may have gotten into a fight"..?
His impact stats don't agree with you.
But regardless, YOUR opinion is irrelevant. As is mine. The scoreboard's opinion is relevant. you can think every player is trash, I can think every player is gold, but all that matters is that almost every night this collection of players, trash or gold, hang right in there and make runs at basically every team we have faced except Milwaulkee, which was clearly an aberration. This isn't about looking at individual players. This is about looking at the team results. And the team results are a team that has been close all season and shown a distinctly tenacious streak, refusing to go away and actually winning the 2nd halves to make games tight. Doesn't matter if you trot out a starting 5 of Matteen Cleaves, Jimmer Fredette, John Salmons, Kenny Thomas and Les Jepsen, if they play teams close, they play them close.
There just not be enough time for the Kings to climb out of this hole.
The Kings are already 4 games out and 6 games under .500. December is pretty rough because they are going to be on the road most of the time. January they play good teams. People keep talking about wait until the after the ASG, but the deficit may be too much to overcome by then.
all schedules balance out. If you start the season 0-10 playing all 10 of your games against the Warriors, Spurs and Cavs, you still have a reasonable chance to make the playoffs because in the end, most of your competitors are going to go 0-10, 1-9, 2-8 against those teams over the course of the season too. The optics just look bad because you had to have all that to start the season, but in the end the losses will balance, and you have 72 more games without an automatic loss left on the schedule. you'll have your chance.