Say it isn't true Matt!

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KingsFan80

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Cut him before all of the facts come out. Why?
If he gets arrested for putting his hands on a girl, based on police evidence, we should hang around and wait for facts? Keep in mind having someone like him around, clearly isn't a good idea for our star player. You think a 36 scrub trouble maker is worth it?
 

VF21

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Geez man you are going down swinging with Matt Barnes. Dude is dirty, I say cut him today. There is no way that whole article is BS
Luckily, you aren't in charge of personnel for the Kings. You think they arent watching this very closely? You think they wanted this kind of publicity? I'm pretty damned sure they'll take the appropriate action AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. There is no need for a rush to judgment here.
 

VF21

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If he gets arrested for putting his hands on a girl, based on police evidence, we should hang around and wait for facts? Keep in mind having someone like him around, clearly isn't a good idea for our star player. You think a 36 scrub trouble maker is worth it?
Yes.
 
Cut him before all of the facts come out. Why?
If he gets arrested for putting his hands on a girl, based on police evidence, we should hang around and wait for facts? Keep in mind having someone like him around, clearly isn't a good idea for our star player. You think a 36 scrub trouble maker is worth it?
Based on Vlade's track record, I doubt he'll let Barnes go. He brought 3x DUI Ty Lawson here. Kept Darren Collison after being arrested for DV against his wife. Brought Matt Barnes too.

DC, I can understand. Second chances should be given. Lawson and Barnes though? Are those guys cats? They have 8 chances or something?
 
a culture change doesn't occur in 20 games
I don't know if fans were paying attention before the season started, but Coach said the team needs to learn how to compete before they can learn how to win. They have been competitive in almost all their games this season. Now we have to hope that it leads to the next step, which is to start winning more than they lose.
 
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KingsFan80

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Good job with the culture change Vlade. This team continues to be a brutal joke on the fans
You are going to get blasted my friend for stating the obvious. TERRIBLE free agent class. Here comes the Vlade henchmen in 3,2,1....
 

kingsboi

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I don't know if fans were paying attention before the season started, but Coach said the team needs to learn how to compete before they can learn how to win. They have been competitive in almost all their games this season. Now we have to hope that it leads to the next step, which is to start winning more than they lose.
That won't happen until some of the ill fitting pieces are gone
 

VF21

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Matt Barnes being held out tonight, I think we might be done waiting for "facts".
No. According to Joerger, he's holding Matt out for rest. He said he originally wanted to do it in Dallas, but didn't want people to read something into it that wasn't there. So what happens? Ever paranoid/judgmental Kings fans read something into it anyway.
 
I don't know if fans were paying attention before the season started, but Coach said the team needs to learn how to compete before they can learn how to win. They have been competitive in almost all their games this season. Now we have to hope that it leads to the next step, which is to start winning more than they lose.
They also have a few horrible losses on their resume. Past tired of the sales job, put up or shut up. People who want to look at the results this season, especially after every move they've made has been to win now, are of course justified.
 

VF21

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So ignore the bad losses and focus on the competitive failures? What a joke. We'll see how this plays out, but the record is reflective at some point, no matter how much some want to dance around it.
I don't think anyone is ignoring the bad losses as much as accepting that they occurred and hoping the team has learned something from them. It's not dancing around anything. It's being realistic IMHO that Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
Anyone supporting Matt Barnes at this point is deaf, blind and you know the rest. This guy is bad at basketball and assaults women in nightclubs with our "superstar" in tow. But let's roll with him because he 's "gritty" "savvy" or other adjective allegedly lacking on team of yesteryear. I cannot wait until we cut ties with this degenerative scrub. He's a troubled dude who needs psychiatric help.
 
No. According to Joerger, he's holding Matt out for rest. He said he originally wanted to do it in Dallas, but didn't want people to read something into it that wasn't there. So what happens? Ever paranoid/judgmental Kings fans read something into it anyway.
If you buy he's being held out for "rest" I have swamp land in Florida to sell you.
 

Bricklayer

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So ignore the bad losses and focus on the competitive failures? What a joke. We'll see how this plays out, but the record is reflective at some point, no matter how much some want to dance around it.
Its modestly deceptive.

+/- Differential will tell you a different tale.
 
Anyone supporting Matt Barnes at this point is deaf, blind and you know the rest. This guy is bad at basketball and assaults women in nightclubs with our "superstar" in tow. But let's roll with him because he 's "gritty" "savvy" or other adjective allegedly lacking on team of yesteryear. I cannot wait until we cut ties with this degenerative scrub. He's a troubled dude who needs psychiatric help.
So you were there? Is that how you're so sure about this? Or was it because some tabloid said it was true?
 
not we... just you
I respect everyone on here who is still holding out hope that matt was the victim here. My opinion is that he was in the wrong.

Its usually the juggernauts holding out their superstars for "rest" not an 8th 9th man seeing sub 25 mins a game most nights and is not on the second night of a back to back. This aint rocket science folks.
 
I respect everyone on here who is still holding out hope that matt was the victim here. My opinion is that he was in the wrong.

Its usually the juggernauts holding out their superstars for "rest" not an 8th 9th man seeing sub 25 mins a game most nights and is not on the second night of a back to back. This aint rocket science folks.
There's a big difference between convicted by the press and convicted in a court of law. I wasn't there so I don't know what really happened. Anyone who claims they do, who wasn't there, is just blowing smoke.
 

VF21

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There's a big difference between convicted by the press and convicted in a court of law. I wasn't there so I don't know what really happened. Anyone who claims they do, who wasn't there, is just blowing smoke.
I'm guessing it won't do any good to try and convince the few who have already made up their mind to just wait and see what happens. And arguing with them is like trying to discuss theoretical physics with a gerbil.
 
I'm guessing it won't do any good to try and convince the few who have already made up their mind to just wait and see what happens. And arguing with them is like trying to discuss theoretical physics with a gerbil.
It's like having a debate with Ronald McDonald about who has the best hamburgers.
 
Waiting to see what happens with this team is like waiting for a train wreck .

We just watched this team from row A tip off to final horn. This team is a joke. Cousins falling in with Barnes "the local guy" is predictable. What a huge mistake by Vlade. I am sorry but this team centered around Cousins is a joke.
 
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VF21

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Well, this is interesting...

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article122288419.html

Sources familiar with the incident told The Sacramento Bee that Barnes was the one attacked and that neither player started the brawl. The players’ attorney, Alex Spiro, has said he believes no crime was committed. Neither player has been arrested.

The sources would not go on record because they do not have the authority to do so.