[SAS/NOH] - who will Bowen injure now ?

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

So, you want the two guys who haven't paid their dues to lose to two guys who won when they hadn't paid their dues.

Nice job contradicting yourself. There is no "status quo." And you just proved it. Either you shouldn't respect Duncan and Parker for their early rings, or you should not dislike Paul & Co. for their lack of this elusive "due-paying." Whatever, now I've confused myself.

You seem to be applying logic and reason to something that I have already conceded was not a reasonable point of view, you might as well stop wasting your breath.

I didn't contradict myself, I said my sense of what the status quo should be. But, like I said before, I don't like that Duncan won early, but I still considered the Spurs to be Robinson's team in 1999, so that ring was more about Robinson than Duncan, in my opinion. And I don't like that Parker won early, but Parker wasn't a star in 2003, and I apply a different standard to role players.

You can try and make sense all you want to, but I'm still not rooting for the Hornets.

 

[Rookie]

Just scanning through the thread because I don't like reading.

I'm rooting for the Hornet but I have to agree with Slim. IMO Spurs is the dominant team of the two and that is why I'm rooting for the underdog. Hornet is very capable of beating the Spurs but to discredit the Spurs as the dominant team is just IMO ridiculous.

go Hornet
go Peja.

 

[vladetomiller]

I guess the whole Tim Donaghy thing has kept me watching the officials more than I used to, but I certainly saw at least three calls that were pivotal in turning the tide against the Hornets. I am not by any means a conspiracy theorist but I found one of them - at least - to be a little troubling. The Wright three that was waived away because of a three-second violation sure looked questionable.

I hope the Hornets can keep the next game out of reach of the Spurs, to prevent the conspiracy theorists from getting out their aluminum foil hats.

I am not a spurs fan by any means and most of you know my laker ties. I want the spurs to lose this series badly, not because I think the lakers can beat the hornets easily, its just because I cant stand the spurs for various reasons (Duncan has never committed a foul in his life, floppy gino who got so many bogus calls in the earlier championships, bowen, bowen and bowen )

I think the lakers will have a tough time with the hornets than the spurs, they have a great matchup advantage with the spurs that PJ will exploit time and again (probably later on on the matchups, but to move to the point here )

I dont think officiating was one sided or had any conspiray behind this one, I was expecting lot more in favour of the spurs if they really wanted to get them to win, like the previous years. This one in fact I saw so many calls going against the spurs in key moments that the hornets failed to take advantage of.

That 3 second is iffy, but there were so many like that which was called against the spurs that I didnt mind that call. TP like many others in the nba has gotten used to the lack of travel calls and does travel a lot to be that extra effective. After not calling the whole season, the first series and two games they woke up to call the travel, they were not lebronesque travels of 3 steps but just a little and were called. One being where chandler got up in the air and bumped on him on a pump fake and they called a travel on TP. There were about 3 or 4 just before that, they called a bunch of touch fouls on the spurs in the beginning of the 3rd quarter. Overall, I think the hornets got more calls than what was due in a spurs home court, I have seen a lot worse than this so I am guessing the refs didnt really help the spurs that much.

I think game 4 is when the hornets close this out on the spurs with the final game back in NO for game 5. They took the best shot from the spurs and didnt blink and were still there till the end.

 

[Superman]

My frustration, I think, was because this was, as you pointed out, a "call that didn't really need to be made."

Those ticky-tac calls destroy the flow of the game, IMHO, and I hate to see them no matter who they're called against.

Yeah, I shook my head at it and didn't appreciate it one bit, but I didn't think it was fuel for the conspiracy theory machine. It was a clear violation, but one that had no impact on the game whatsoever.

In fact, by calling it, I think the refs had more of an impact on the game than the violation would have.

 

[Superman]

You can try and make sense all you want to, but I'm still not rooting for the Hornets.

So let me ask you this: If the Hornets meet the Jazz in the WCF (not likely), who do you root for? The team with the player that you love to hate, or the team with the player that hasn't paid his dues?

I'm thinkin' you'd take the Hornets in that matchup, no?

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I'd root for Boozer to suffer a career-ending injury, and for the Jazz to somehow win without him.

 

[Superman]

I'd root for Boozer to suffer a career-ending injury, and for the Jazz to somehow win without him.

I didn't realize it was that deep for Boozer. Damn.

Assuming the basketball gods don't feel the same way about Boozer as you do, would you root for the Hornets?



...



Never mind. Don't answer that. I don't want to hear what you have in store for Chris Paul.

Just damn.

 

[Gargamel]

I'd root for Boozer to suffer a career-ending injury, and for the Jazz to somehow win without him.

Haha. Well it's a definite stand, at least. I must've been here a long time because your irascibility is starting to grow on me like mold. You're an old-schooler, Sir.

I used to feel that way about Malone and he never even reneged on a verbal contract.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I love the way the hornets play and I'm rooting for a LAL-NOH WCF.

 

[Gargamel]

Haha. I think you sold it, Chris.

 

[coolhandluke]

Haha. I think you sold it, Chris.

NBA: Where soccer happens.

 

[Bricklayer]

Haha. I think you sold it, Chris.

Been doing that all series agains the Spurs, and since it is not normally a huge part of his game, I can't help thinking that this is payback. That this is the kid really not liking the champs (who are expert floppers of course) and seemig determined to go right at them and beat them at their own game. Done it repeatedly to Bowen as well. Its all B.S. of course. But if it gets called "saavy" when the vetean champs do it, then "saavy" it is when the challenger says I can do that too.

Of course in actuality it is basically cheating no matter who is doing it and a ridiculous embarrassment that the league does not institute an anti-flopping rule ala hockey, but still.

 

[RKid]

NBA: Where soccer happens.

I fail to see the problem.

 

[vj9999]

NBA: Where soccer happens.

In that case he would have stayed down for 10 minutes in an apparent career ending injury, while they came on with a stretcher to carry him of the court. Than he would come back in 2 seconds later and limp a little bit. He would then get the ball and speed down the court like nothing ever happened.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Of course in actuality it is basically cheating no matter who is doing it and a ridiculous embarrassment that the league does not institute an anti-flopping rule ala hockey, but still.

Not terribly familiar with hockey. How does that work?

They could start by not giving them the call, obviously. Perhaps dishing out technicals for blatant flops?

 

[atxrocker]

hope the hornets win in a blow out and put the nails in the that spurs coffin.

 

[Bricklayer]

In that case he would have stayed down for 10 minutes in an apparent career ending injury, while they came on with a stretcher to carry him of the court. Than he would come back in 2 seconds later and limp a little bit. He would then get the ball and speed down the court like nothing ever happened.

That would be awesome - they should institute the soccer stretcher in basketball until they clean up all the flopping. Maybe add an oxygen mask and IV just for extra drama.

 

[Superman]

They could start by not giving them the call, obviously. Perhaps dishing out technicals for blatant flops?

They have to do something to keep people from flopping in the lane. Maybe extend the no-charge zone? If people keep laying down in the lane, someone is going to get seriously hurt.

Maybe just get rid of charging for a season or so?

 

[bozzwell]

That would be awesome - they should institute the soccer stretcher in basketball until they clean up all the flopping. Maybe add an oxygen mask and IV just for extra drama.

American version has to be bigger and better. I propose we give all front court seats in all arenas to ambulance chasing lawyers and have judge Judy on hand to preside from the bench.

 

[Rockmeister]

Do David West and Pargo ever pass the ball? I would love to see NOH in the Western Conference finals because I'm tired of seeing the Spurs in it all the time.

 

[LPKingsFan]

San Antonio's music during actual game play is obnoxious. The NBA will micromanage to the level team uniforms (which is why we can't wear black jerseys) but not the arena experience?

 

[bozzwell]

Wow, just wow! I know that NO is doing their level best to lose this game but I am really impressed by the champs here. After they got walloped in two games, they go back home, make adjustments win one, then put a mighty walloping on NO in game 4. Cool, calm and merciless.

Byron should tell his players to look at Spurs if they want to see how championships are won instead of showing them his ring.

 

[tradepeja]

I'm getting sick of these playoffs. Minus the Utah game today, Detroit yesterday and the SA/PHX game 1, its been home team blow outs.

Don't get me wrong, I liked NOH winning in blowouts, just I would've rather seen a competitive game. This last game was the pinnacle of noncompetition. The hornets just handing it to the champs will a little ref help early. But not as much are normal, this was just sick.

 

[vj9999]

Bowen owns Peja.

 

[Bricklayer]

Bowen owns Peja.

Always has, and the Spurs have been much more effective once they quit wastig him trying to slow down Paul (which he could not do at all) and got him back over someplace where he could have an impact.

 

[Rookie]

I'm getting sick of these playoffs.

I'm on the other hand find this season playoff very interesting. I still have no clue who will win it all. 3 out of the 4 series are at 2-2..very interesting.

 

[Superman]

I'm on the other hand find this season playoff very interesting. I still have no clue who will win it all. 3 out of the 4 series are at 2-2..very interesting.

I'm right there with you. The playoffs are living up to the hype if you ask me, and have been a natural progression from the super-exciting regular season. I have no idea who is going to be in the conference finals, much less the finals, and who knows who is going to win it all.

If I wasn't actively rooting against one of the eight teams left (the Lakers, and a little bit of aggression against the Celtics, why I don't know), I would declare this the best postseason ever. It might still be.

 

[LPKingsFan]

I'm right there with you. The playoffs are living up to the hype if you ask me, and have been a natural progression from the super-exciting regular season. I have no idea who is going to be in the conference finals, much less the finals, and who knows who is going to win it all.

If I wasn't actively rooting against one of the eight teams left (the Lakers, and a little bit of aggression against the Celtics, why I don't know), I would declare this the best postseason ever. It might still be.

Right there with you (with Lakers and Celtics, too). Would be nice to see the Kings in the midst of things, but it does allow for one to simply sit back and enjoy watching basketball, rather than having a strong vested interest.

 

[tradepeja]

I'm right there with you. The playoffs are living up to the hype if you ask me, and have been a natural progression from the super-exciting regular season. I have no idea who is going to be in the conference finals, much less the finals, and who knows who is going to win it all.

If I wasn't actively rooting against one of the eight teams left (the Lakers, and a little bit of aggression against the Celtics, why I don't know), I would declare this the best postseason ever. It might still be.

I fail to see how this year is "living up to the hype." Its just been road teams handing the games to home teams x 15. A few years ago we had the record for OT games in the playoffs, and there have always been those marquee matchups that live up to the hype.

This year we just have hometeam blow outs (15-1 in the second round, not to mention several 30+ blowouts in round 1). Again and again. Sure its cool theres no massive frontrunner like their usually is every year, but I'd like to see a gutsy road win once in a while. Seems Detroit is the only one that can do that anymore.

 

[Superman]

I fail to see how this year is "living up to the hype." Its just been road teams handing the games to home teams x 15. A few years ago we had the record for OT games in the playoffs, and there have always been those marquee matchups that live up to the hype.

This year we just have hometeam blow outs (15-1 in the second round, not to mention several 30+ blowouts in round 1). Again and again. Sure its cool theres no massive frontrunner like their usually is every year, but I'd like to see a gutsy road win once in a while. Seems Detroit is the only one that can do that anymore.

The fact that the series goes into Game 5 tied is exciting, regardless of who's winning at home and on the road. Game 5 has been relevant in almost every series so far.

The 37 win Hawks taking the 66 win Celtics to seven games is exciting, even if the Celtics did wallop them at home. At least it wasn't a four game sweep like we all expected.

And here we have four series that will all go at least six games in the second round. Who cares about the home team winning percentage? These series are exciting.