Ongoing draft/lottery discussion [OPEN SPOILERS]

[rainmaker]

Exactly how I feel. If it isn't a verifiable fact, go away, please.

I see where you're coming from, but with all the leaks that came out over the last year or two here, they proved later to largely be correct. I'd if any fan base learned a lesson not to dismiss rumors "just because", it's ours.

That doesn't mean this rumor carries any weight, likely just the weasel doing his thing from the Rockies.

 

[jcwkings]

We should call the Cavs and offer Gay and Collison for Lebron and some stiff can tweet "Kings and Cavs in talks for Lebron Gay swap". PDA is a little weasel, but really what can you expect hiring a Lawyer/ player agent. The scum of society.

 

[ParniValjak]

I have said it before and I will say it again, if we trade Cuz, I am officially done with this franchise. There is so much idiocy I can take over the years.

On Lawson, there is no way we should be trading pick 6 for him. His value is SOOO low. There are issues there that other teams are well aware off, hence lack of real interest there. I am still interested but at a much reduced price than 6th pick.

 

[Albatros]

Haha that is just not true what nonsense. Faried is garbage too.

 

[randymoss1881]

Guys confidence is Kobe like no wonder they call him euro Kobe.

 

[randymoss1881]

Also 51.0-54.0 Hezonja talk

http://basketball.realgm.com/podcasts/Duncd-On-Full-Episode-150618.mp3

 

[dude12]

Just read that Hinkie is leaning to taking Porzingas over Russell at 3 but most people believe Philly is leaking stuff to get Orlando to move up...Orlando loves Porzingas. I think Russell goes 3.....slots well there. It's really up to NY and what they do. If they don't take Porzingas or WCS, then WCS is there for us. I've read several reports that they alternately have WCS or Winslow on top of their board.

 

[sauce-26]

If we got lawson where we swap our picks with denver and exchanged other pieces would it make it worthwhile?

 

[Gary]

So we get Lawson and all we have to do is swap picks? Heck yah I would do that... If WCS wasn't available.

 

[Albatros]

Lawson vs possibly picking up mudiay long term I don't really see the difference.

 

[Jerichoholic]

So we get Lawson and all we have to do is swap picks? Heck yah I would do that... If WCS wasn't available.

Absolutely would do that! Lawson is still a good player in this league, just wore out his welcome in Denver and needs a change of scenery. That happens when the team goes from a #3 seed in the playoffs to the lottery, someone is to blame.

It's great timing too as his value is the lowest that it will be, there are two ways to get good players, either trade away another good player or absorb an inflated salary which is what we have here. I'm not sure if we have a trade exemption or not, that would help. Although I think there is a problem in that we can't absorb his salary until after the draft, we are still over the cap as it stands right now.

 

[Bricklayer]

So we get Lawson and all we have to do is swap picks? Heck yah I would do that... If WCS wasn't available.

Where you seeing that?

 

[Bricklayer]

Lawson vs possibly picking up mudiay long term I don't really see the difference.

Bird in the hand is a HUGE difference.

 

[sauce-26]

Where you seeing that?

I asked if we swapped picks with denver and got lawson along with other pieces moving would that be ok

 

[Albatros]

Bird in the hand is a HUGE difference.

Yeah I get that it's all p***ing in the wind with draft picks but I'm not paying a huge price for a Ty Lawson.

 

[randymoss1881]

Absolutely would do that! Lawson is still a good player in this league, just wore out his welcome in Denver and needs a change of scenery. That happens when the team goes from a #3 seed in the playoffs to the lottery, someone is to blame.

It's great timing too as his value is the lowest that it will be, there are two ways to get good players, either trade away another good player or absorb an inflated salary which is what we have here. I'm not sure if we have a trade exemption or not, that would help. Although I think there is a problem in that we can't absorb his salary until after the draft, we are still over the cap as it stands right now.

I take Collison over lawson everyday of the week. Lawson gets tourched on defense and isn't the shooter Collison is. Just stay away

 

[Jerichoholic]

I take Collison over lawson everyday of the week. Lawson gets tourched on defense and isn't the shooter Collison is. Just stay away

I wouldn't trade Collison for Lawson either, but I think having them both could be a huge upgrade and it may be possible.

 

[Warhawk]

I don't see paying the high premium and involving our pick for Lawson when we already have Collison. Not enough of a difference on offense and a step down on defense. I want to quit shuffling pieces all the time and let Collison work with Karl before deciding he isn't a good fit. I bet under Karl Collison thrives too. Unless DMC wants that particular change for some reason, focus on areas of NEED, like our entire bench. Let's not waste assets on what was working last year (starting 5) unless you can get an upgrade at SG or maybe PF. Those were the biggest weak spots in the starters.

 

[Jerichoholic]

I don't see paying the high premium and involving our pick for Lawson when we already have Collison. Not enough of a difference on offense and a step down on defense. I want to quit shuffling pieces all the time and let Collison work with Karl before deciding he isn't a good fit. I bet under Karl Collison thrives too. Unless DMC wants that particular change for some reason, focus on areas of NEED, like our entire bench. Let's not waste assets on what was working last year (starting 5) unless you can get an upgrade at SG or maybe PF. Those were the biggest weak spots in the starters.

That's the thing, if we can get Lawson while keeping Collison then the bench is immediately much better. You have two similar point guards who can run Karl's offense well. Lawson may not be much better than Collison, but he is much better than McCallum.

We need another point guard who can drive the lane, we are running the Dribble Drive Offense, Nik Stauskas eluded to this in an interview with Grant Napear last week. McCallum is not the guy, doesn't have the creativity, passing ability, or speed for the job. I want to keep Collison, but we need more, whether it's Lawson, Mudiay, or a free agent, someone has to be added there.

 

[Hansel]

Spanish league final, game 1. Real Madrid - Barcelona 78-72.
Hezonja scores 18 points in 25 minutes (6/10 from the field, 5/6 from three) with 5 rebounds, 1 assist and 2 steals.
MVP for the guests by far.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

is the 3pt line over there in Europe as long as the NBA 3pt line?

 

[Sac.Kings]

is the 3pt line over there in Europe as long as the NBA 3pt line?

Slightly shorter I think

 

[206Fan]

Spanish league final, game 1. Real Madrid - Barcelona 78-72.
Hezonja scores 18 points in 25 minutes (6/10 from the field, 5/6 from three) with 5 rebounds, 1 assist and 2 steals.
MVP for the guests by far.

I can't wait to see a recap. Hezonja is so good when he gets to play. DX also said 25minutes is the most he's played this year.. 2015.

 

[Hansel]

is the 3pt line over there in Europe as long as the NBA 3pt line?

Slightly shorter I think

6.75.
Tonight he took shots far from the line anyway.

 

[Warhawk]

That's the thing, if we can get Lawson while keeping Collison then the bench is immediately much better. You have two similar point guards who can run Karl's offense well. Lawson may not be much better than Collison, but he is much better than McCallum.

Most of the proposals I see include Collison in the trade back to Lawson, and I would rather get a big like WCS with the pick than trade it for a backup PG making a lot more than the pick will cost in salary.

 

[swisshh]

I don't trust any draft board until a day before draft.

Out of possible Kings draftings, I like: WCS, Winslow and Hezonja.
Middle of the road on: Payne (who just got injured)
Wary of: Mudiay

 

[Dime Dropper]

Quick recap of Hezonja's performance here: http://www.acb.com/

Shows all his made threes. Some of them are well beyond NBA 3pt line. He's really helped his stock tonight. Putting up 18pts in 25 mins against Madrid in the finals is no joke. It's hard not to like him.

 

[ForlornKing]

Quick recap of Hezonja's performance here: http://www.acb.com/

Shows all his made threes. Some of them are well beyond NBA 3pt line. He's really helped his stock tonight. Putting up 18pts in 25 mins against Madrid in the finals is no joke. It's hard not to like him.

Can he get to the line though.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

I don't trust any draft board until a day before draft.

Out of possible Kings draftings, I like: WCS, Winslow and Hezonja.
Middle of the road on: Payne (who just got injured)
Wary of: Mudiay

im with you. Just add Kristaps to the Wary Of section

 

[swisshh]

im with you. Just add Kristaps to the Wary Of section

Yeah, I almost added him but I don't think the Kings have any real interest.