[Game] Kings @ Trailblazers, 10/20/21, 7pm Pacific, 10pm Eastern

[Tetsujin]

lol the first thing I thought when I posted about Hali was she’d probably give me crap for being negative after a win

Yep. Also all this negativity is taking away from the fact that Harrison Barnes had one of the most impressively efficient halves of basketball I've ever seen.

 

[Tetsujin]

Yeah, right, that's exactly what you do if your a top GM, let one play by one of your best players make your decision for you. That was a crap move by Walton, and the kind of move an idiot head coach would do. You don't publicly diss one of your best players.

He didn't? He just took him out and replaced him with Davion?

 

[Entity]

Yeah, right, that's exactly what you do if your a top GM, let one play by one of your best players make your decision for you. That was a crap move by Walton, and the kind of move an idiot head coach would do. You don't publicly diss one of your best players.

I’m sorry I don’t see it that way. He needed to come out after that. You don’t try again in same situation. Let him sort it out next game not a game in which he just gave them 2 points in a 3 pt game.

 

[SacTownKid]

lol the first thing I thought when I posted about Hali was she’d probably give me crap for being negative after a win

15 years of heartache and legit talent to watch! We're in for a dogfight people! haha.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Yeah, right, that's exactly what you do if your a top GM, let one play by one of your best players make your decision for you. That was a crap move by Walton, and the kind of move an idiot head coach would do. You don't publicly diss one of your best players.

I know it’s only his 2nd year, but I feel Hali has already proven to be a core guy and a guy that should get the benefit of the doubt from his coach in that situation. Not pulled.

 

[Rain man]

Hit back with facts or move along. Yeah, and so were the mistakes. This wasn't the first go around seeing this same thing. Didn't catch him tonight, but it might tomorrow and the next day. At least tonight we can't get the typical Marvin Bagley blame lol. Or Buddy blame eh?

Alright- here is fact to hit back with. We won! We won in a place where we almost always lose. We had stretches where we played really well. And we can play better. We made mistakes, absolutely. But we won. Fact.

Here is another fact. Your M.O. is constantly to pee in the gravy. No matter what.

You are the one not using facts. You are pitching subjective opinions about what you think we didn’t do well enough. The only one of us using facts is me, and it’s the only fact you can’t dispute- 1-0.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Yep. Also all this negativity is taking away from the fact that Harrison Barnes had one of the most impressively efficient halves of basketball I've ever seen.

he was automatic. Was fun to watch

 

[Tetsujin]

he was automatic. Was fun to watch

I'll have to go find the numbers somewhere but I think he only missed one shot in the entire second half.

 

[Entity]

I know it’s only his 2nd year, but I feel Hali has already proven to be a core guy and a guy that should get the benefit of the doubt from his coach in that situation. Not pulled.

Had it not went on all of preseason and this whole game yes. Luke looked past the preseason and made him starter. He did nothing then almost cost us. Yeah you pull him. That’s why we are happy about depth. One guy struggles you don’t leave him in to do it again. That’s type of crap everybody wanted buddy traded for.

 

[ikon_zero]

I'm fine with taking Tyrese out there - he's a pretty self-aware guy. I'm sure he's upset with himself and knows he screwed up, but you show confidence in him by putting him in the same situation again next game, not right after it happened and he's still frazzled.

 

[SacTownKid]

Alright- here is fact to hit back with. We won! We won in a place where we almost always lose. We had stretches where we played really well. And we can play better. We made mistakes, absolutely. But we won. Fact.

Here is another fact. Your M.O. is constantly to pee in the gravy. No matter what.

You are the one not using facts. You are pitching subjective opinions about what you think we didn’t do well enough. The only one of us using facts is me, and it’s the only fact you can’t dispute- 1-0.

I hear ya, but no, I responded in REAL time to what was occurring. I didn't wait until the finish to chime in as some some others MO. they won, and yes that was a great win, but there were clear issues. This being a message board I would figure is the exact place to discuss them.

 

[The_Jamal]

It is funny that as Kings fans, we search for something wrong on an overall pretty good night for Kings basketball and a real tough win(probably ends up being important too, Portland is gonna be in that 6-10 range that we're shooting for).

 

[SacTownKid]

I'm fine with taking Tyrese out there - he's a pretty self-aware guy. I'm sure he's upset with himself and knows he screwed up, but you show confidence in him by putting him in the same situation again next game, not right after it happened and he's still frazzled.

We've seen enough the last few seasons of late game tinkering. We know the typical result regardless of who is in there. Just stick with what is working coach.

 

[SacTownKid]

It is funny that as Kings fans, we search for something wrong on an overall pretty good night for Kings basketball and a real tough win(probably ends up being important too, Portland is gonna be in that 6-10 range that we're shooting for).

Don't you think a little healthy paranoia is warranted after 15 years and seeing the same problems early mount as the season goes on?

 

[The_Jamal]

Don't you think a little healthy paranoia is warranted after 15 years and seeing the same problems early mount as the season goes on?

oh absolutely. I just hope that eventually we can expect good things from Kings basketball and not always wait for the other shoe to drop.

 

[NiNetNiNe]

Our defensive effort was good for three quarters. There are still going to be a lot of growing pains. People are getting too down on the team. They gutted out a win, on the road, against a team that has always destroyed us, with the refs against us too. This was a game we easily lose last season.

 

[Entity]

oh absolutely. I just hope that eventually we can expect good things from Kings basketball and not always wait for the other shoe to drop.

Pun intended? Because a shoe almost cost is as well. Get some high tops kids.

 

[upinsmoke]

W.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Obviously HB had a fantastic game but let's not forget JR UH-OH. 21 points on 9-10 shooting, 11 boards including 4 offensive and the highest +- on the team at +20.

 

[Woot!]

Our defensive effort was good for three quarters. There are still going to be a lot of growing pains. People are getting too down on the team. They gutted out a win, on the road, against a team that has always destroyed us, with the refs against us too. This was a game we easily lose last season.

I won't harp on it, but a strong defensive effort throughout HAS to be this team's calling card. A little dismaying to see them lose their poise down the stretch.

 

[Woot!]

Obviously HB had a fantastic game but let's not forget JR UH-OH. 21 points on 9-10 shooting, 11 boards including 4 offensive and the highest +- on the team at +20.

Yup. Coulda used him for more minutes in the 2nd half.

 

[TaxMan]

Wow…. Some of you are a real killjoy.

fun, stressful game. Some things to clean up but a great way to start the season. If we can get out to a 3-2 or 2-3 start to a tough opening schedule, I’ll take it.

 

[SacTownKid]

I won't harp on it, but a strong defensive effort throughout HAS to be this team's calling card. A little dismaying to see them lose their poise down the stretch.

It goes back to management. If the Kings find that balance they have a real shot this season to get into the postseason. It's a tale of two teams. One with more defense but not a ton of iso ability. Then another with not nearly the D but can blow a team out when they're humming along. This team might end up being a team of balance. Attempting to reach either extreme might be a mistake.

 

[PurpleHaze]

Pun intended? Because a shoe almost cost is as well. Get some high tops kids.

 

[SacTownKid]

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New endorsement incoming!!! haha.

 

[gunks]

I was telling my girlfriend towards the end of the 4th that I’m done with the Kings forever, and that I’m a fool to have even thought they were going to be good this season, and that I’ll never watch another game of theirs ever again and I hate Luke and I hate Vlade and I hate Vivek and I hate the refs and Kings fandom is some cruel joke, or perhaps a punishment for evils committed in a past life, and I shudder to think of what kind of monster I must have been and…

... then Dame missed, so…

Go Kings!!!!! On to the next one!! Lets effin go!!!

 

[mac]

When's the last time a game thread had 17 pages?

 

[reptilexcq2]

Down the stretch, I feel like Walton should have put Davion in for defense instead of Terrance Davis. Surely, Fox, Haliburton and Mitchell can co-exist. Or even take Buddy out for that matter.

 

[SLAB]

TD/Hali/Mitchell combined 4/21 shooting and 2/11 from 3 and still pull the win. Good sign as I think it'll be pretty rare all 3 of those guys aren't playing well on O.

It felt like TD took 21 shots himself. Lol

 

[The Effort Police]

When's the last time a game thread had 17 pages?

Probably sometime before Vlade made the fanbase permanently jaded.