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Okay, so as of today, I am officially on the "hire Eddie Jordan" bandwagon. Before today I didn't think there was anyone out there who could do the job, but I am now convinced that EJ can.

Here is my reasoning. Geoff Petrie is clearly looking for someone with previous success as a head coach (and I think he is right to do so considering our current state), which really narrows down our list. The only two such candidates we have interviewed are Paul Westphal and EJ. Having looked around a bit, I don't think there are any names worth adding to the list for various reasons (too old, inflexibility to name a couple). Between these two, Eddie Jordan clearly made the Wizards better, while Westphal clearly made the Sonics worse (I don't consider Westphal's Phoenix coaching since with all the talent and experience they had, Homer Simpson could have coached them to 55+ wins).

Westphal came to Seattle after George Karl left and promptly took them from contender to out of the playoffs in the lockout year. They got back in the playoffs the next year, but lost in the first round. The next year he got fired early on and Nate M was hired as head coach and led them to a decent resurgence after that. Westphal was the weak link in their succession of coaches. By the way, even in Phoenix, Westphal underachieved in the playoffs, losing playoff series even when they had homecourt advantage.

Jordan came to Washington after Doug Collins had attempted to coach the "Michael Jordan resurgence" which failed miserably and really set the team back several years in terms of development. They had hit rock bottom and needed someone to bring stability and experience to the team. After missing the playoffs badly his first year with the team, Jordan took them to the playoffs 4 straight years afterwards. They even won a playoff series without homecourt advantage against the Bulls. The next 3 years that they lost in the first round, but all 3 years were to Lebron and the Cavs, which I think is a bit more excusable. This past season the team started 1-10, thanks to their dreadful, recurring injury issues, and fired EJ, but the team clearly didn't do any better without him. The start wasn't his fault, and they should have kept him.

I don't think Jordan is going to win us a championship, and probably won't get us to the playoffs for a year or two, but I think he is the right guy to get us moving in the right direction and bring stability to the team.

Hire him, Geoff!
 
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The more I think about it (and read some articles) the more I want to see Ettore Messina coaching our team. Does anybody think that Geoff is interested in him?

The guy seems to be interested in developing the rookies and with our team next year, the rookies need a good coach to help them grow up. Here’s one quote from him.

"I still believe that the improvement of our game, goes through the improvement of our individual game. It does not go through the tactics, it goes through the individuals. If our players become better players, individually, it will be much easier for us to play better basketball.

You don't...you just complicate the game if you use strategy to cover a single weakness. That strategy can cover the weakness for maybe 1-2-3 games, but when you find a better team, no matter what your strategy is, they will be better than you.

So I think its worth it to invest time in improving the player, and the players will never forget you are telling them something that is making them better players. They will never forget. "

Source: [yt=Ettore Messina video]GkNQG8On90c[/yt]

There’s also a video of him inside the link – for those of you who want to view it.
 
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I have a feeling that Messina can make a lot more money coaching in Europe, than the King's can pay him to coach here.
 
I have a feeling that Messina can make a lot more money coaching in Europe, than the King's can pay him to coach here.

You’re probably right, he might make more money by staying put, but he’s already proven what he can do over there. He might want to prove that he can also make it in the NBA.

I also wonder about his exposure if he decided to come to America. I’m sure there would be a lot of talk about him (which could be a good or bad thing – depending on how well he performs). Either way, I’d love to see him here. Hopefully Petrie and Messina feel the same way. He isn’t a proven NBA coach, but Messina seems intelligent enough to be able to get a handle of the game over here.
 
You’re probably right, he might make more money by staying put, but he’s already proven what he can do over there. He might want to prove that he can also make it in the NBA.

I also wonder about his exposure if he decided to come to America. I’m sure there would be a lot of talk about him (which could be a good or bad thing – depending on how well he performs). Either way, I’d love to see him here. Hopefully Petrie and Messina feel the same way. He isn’t a proven NBA coach, but Messina seems intelligent enough to be able to get a handle of the game over here.

Messina might be an interesting experiment BUT that's probably the biggest reason his name won't be on the door of the head coach's office for the Sacramento Kings for the 2009-2010 season.

Geoff Petrie is done with experiments, at least for now. The Kings are going to get the best coach they can without having to pay an arm and a leg and it's going to be someone who's coached in the NBA, preferably at the head coach level but surely with some good strong assistant experience.
 
Messina might be an interesting experiment BUT that's probably the biggest reason his name won't be on the door of the head coach's office for the Sacramento Kings for the 2009-2010 season.

Geoff Petrie is done with experiments, at least for now. The Kings are going to get the best coach they can without having to pay an arm and a leg and it's going to be someone who's coached in the NBA, preferably at the head coach level but surely with some good strong assistant experience.

He's a big experiment, but if there's no better option out there, don't you think that Geoff might be interested?

Kurt Rambis, Paul Westphal, and Thibodeau...Those are our choices right now. I'm not putting on my blinders and saying that we should hire the guy and forget about everything else about him (even though I like him from what I've read) but I do think that if Geoff is serious about taking the time to search for the right coach that maybe we should also look at him.

Anyway, I have faith in Geoff to pick a good coach. Even though it might not be someone I want or expect. I'm just glad that Eddie Jordan isn't a option right now.
 
I'd like to know what the brass is waiting for. Don't they want a coach in place before they get serious with the draft? Once they get a coach, the coach needs to hire assisistants. Is this going to be the same as the Theus situation in which there was a mad scramble to have assistants for the rookie team? Cut out the BS and hire a coach.
 
I'd like to know what the brass is waiting for. Don't they want a coach in place before they get serious with the draft? Once they get a coach, the coach needs to hire assisistants. Is this going to be the same as the Theus situation in which there was a mad scramble to have assistants for the rookie team? Cut out the BS and hire a coach.

There's no rush, really- we're the only vacancy in the league, and have a narrowed pool to begin with. It seems evident the only "second interviews" that might be likely at this stage would be with Westphal and Rambis anyways, so it's more up to management and ownership from here. They can milk it another week and see if any other names jump in (unlikely, but possible), and also schedule certain parties (if Rambis) for another interview or press conference after the Finals. If that is in fact who it is, Petrie would be respectful to his current role and position to avoid any conflict.
 
Kings interview Rambis for head-coaching job

http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/1910499.html

Kurt Rambis had come the Kings' way before, interviewing for their head-coaching job in 1998 in Sacramento and again nine years later at the Las Vegas hotel of co-owners Joe and Gavin Maloof.
But the Kings came to Rambis this time around, interviewing the longtime Lakers assistant in Los Angeles on Monday so as to accommodate his busy schedule and maintain the minimal momentum in their coaching search.

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http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/1910499.html

Kurt Rambis had come the Kings' way before, interviewing for their head-coaching job in 1998 in Sacramento and again nine years later at the Las Vegas hotel of co-owners Joe and Gavin Maloof.
But the Kings came to Rambis this time around, interviewing the longtime Lakers assistant in Los Angeles on Monday so as to accommodate his busy schedule and maintain the minimal momentum in their coaching search.

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So he interviewed over 10 years ago and is still in the same position he was back then. Things that make you go hmmmm.

On the positive side for Westphal (who I don't like), it was in todays paper that he would bring in Mario Elie and Terry Porter as assistants. At least we would have 2 viable "intern" coaches in the waiting.
 
So he interviewed over 10 years ago and is still in the same position he was back then. Things that make you go hmmmm.

On the positive side for Westphal (who I don't like), it was in todays paper that he would bring in Mario Elie and Terry Porter as assistants. At least we would have 2 viable "intern" coaches in the waiting.

Yeah -- I like that choice of assistants if that's the way we go.
 
Yeah -- I like that choice of assistants if that's the way we go.

My god! It almost sounds professional.. That was a problem that both Reggie and Musclehead had. Neither one wanted to hire an assistant coach that might be smarter than they were or that might upstage them.
 
My god! It almost sounds professional.. That was a problem that both Reggie and Musclehead had. Neither one wanted to hire an assistant coach that might be smarter than they were or that might upstage them.

:D Good points. It would be interesting to know who Rambis would hire, as well as Thibideau.
 
Well I guess interviewing him and then telling him at a later date, thanks, but we've decided to go in a different direction, is better than just calling him on the phone and telling him, you know we were really interested in you. But we thought about it and decided were not. Thanks anyway.:rolleyes:
 
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I've been wondering why the Kings are procrastinating. Here's my guess: They're waiting for the Lakers to get their championship so they can get more of buzz after they hire him. I doubt their decision has anything to do with basketball at this point. I think it all has to do with putting butts in the seats. After all, that's why they picked Theus. If your really think about it, how would they sell Westphal - as a guy who hasn't coached in a zillion years? Does Thibideau sell? I doubt it, at least not to the casual Kings fan. But the head assistant to the NBA champs - that sells.
 
I've been wondering why the Kings are procrastinating. Here's my guess: They're waiting for the Lakers to get their championship so they can get more of buzz after they hire him. I doubt their decision has anything to do with basketball at this point. I think it all has to do with putting butts in the seats. After all, that's why they picked Theus. If your really think about it, how would they sell Westphal - as a guy who hasn't coached in a zillion years? Does Thibideau sell? I doubt it, at least not to the casual Kings fan. But the head assistant to the NBA champs - that sells.


all the coaching choices are LOSERS!

who cares about selling as much as pissing off the hardcore, die hard Kings fans that still hate the Lakers... I dont care about selling... Chose the one that has proven to develop the youth the best, and can actually coach to boot... end of story...
 
I've been wondering why the Kings are procrastinating. Here's my guess: They're waiting for the Lakers to get their championship so they can get more of buzz after they hire him. I doubt their decision has anything to do with basketball at this point. I think it all has to do with putting butts in the seats. After all, that's why they picked Theus. If your really think about it, how would they sell Westphal - as a guy who hasn't coached in a zillion years? Does Thibideau sell? I doubt it, at least not to the casual Kings fan. But the head assistant to the NBA champs - that sells.


That's actually possible. If we here some more about us continuing to interview people then we're probably still looking. But if all is quiet on the Western front and no announcement is made then it makes sense maybe we are just sitting on something, and there would be no reason to do that wiht the guys who are already out of work.
 
all the coaching choices are LOSERS!

who cares about selling as much as pissing off the hardcore, die hard Kings fans that still hate the Lakers... I dont care about selling... Chose the one that has proven to develop the youth the best, and can actually coach to boot... end of story...

I'm a hardcore, die hard Kings fan and hiring Kurt Rambis would NOT pee me off at all.
 
I'm a hardcore, die hard Kings fan and hiring Kurt Rambis would NOT pee me off at all.

well i think theres a few like you that might actually see some positive qualities in Rambis, hey he probably is a great guy!.... but I think there will be many more people that will just throw up and ask God again why he hates the Kings so much... plus again i just think nice guy or not hes the least qualified out of the 3... and is also the least responsible for his current teams success.

but since most probably dont want Rambis then he's a lock to be the next coach... cause thats how things work around here... we made jokes about "what if we got the #4 pick, that would suck" then we got the #4 pick... were the worst team in the NBA the Lakers are the best... and on and on and on and on.... Rambis is obviously the perfect fit... let the good times roll!
 
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I never said I thought Rambis was the best qualified or would get the job. I just didn't - and don't - understand the hate. We're a rebuilding team whose owners have indicated they're not going to break the bank on a coach. Which is fine with me. Let's get a coach to work with and mentor the kids and see if we can in fact get this team turned back in the right direction. One step at a time... We're not ready to pay mega$$$$ for a head coach at this point in time. You don't put $1200 tires on a 72 Plymouth Valiant.
 
well i think theres a few like you that might actually see some positive qualities in Rambis, hey he probably is a great guy!.... but I think there will be many more people that will just throw up and ask God again why he hates the Kings so much... plus again i just think nice guy or not hes the least qualified out of the 3... and is also the least responsible for his current teams success.

but since most probably dont want Rambis then he's a lock to be the next coach... cause thats how things work around here... we made jokes about "what if we got the #4 pick, that would suck" then we got the #4 pick... were the worst team in the NBA the Lakers are the best... and on and on and on and on.... Rambis is obviously the perfect fit... let the good times roll!

I honestly believe that God has better things to do than spend any time thinking about the Kings. I think less coffee and a few more cerversa's will clarify things for you.:)
 
I'm a hardcore, die hard Kings fan and hiring Kurt Rambis would NOT pee me off at all.

I agree. Lakers fans love him. He has head coaching experience. He has been to the second round of the playoffs as a head coach. He has mentored under one of the top coaches in the game. He has been the defensive coach for one of the best defenses in the league the last two seasons. I don't know too much about his personality or what type of offence he would want to run, but I see no reason to be down on Rambis. Let's face it. Phil Jackson isn't walking through that door. Jerry Sloan isn't walking through that door. No proven coach is going to come here and save us. Rambis is as good of a choice as anyone else out there.
 
I, also, don't understand why hiring Rambis would pee off Kings fans. I loathe the Lakers, but if Rambis is hired, he'll be the head coach of my Kings and I'll be 100% behind him.

Although they reportedly had discussed contract terms with Westphal, maybe they're going to pick someone else and are trying negotiate a deal. No point in announcing anything before you know you and the other party have agreed in principle on the terms.

Also, since GP was back East, I accept what he and the Maloofs say about not having had the time to sit down and discuss the selection yet. That's not saying the Maloofs are picking necessarily, but just that GP needs to explain his thought process to them before committing.
 
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I agree. Lakers fans love him. He has head coaching experience. He has been to the second round of the playoffs as a head coach. He has mentored under one of the top coaches in the game. He has been the defensive coach for one of the best defenses in the league the last two seasons. I don't know too much about his personality or what type of offence he would want to run, but I see no reason to be down on Rambis. Let's face it. Phil Jackson isn't walking through that door. Jerry Sloan isn't walking through that door. No proven coach is going to come here and save us. Rambis is as good of a choice as anyone else out there.

I completely agree. He has experience, has been mentored by one of the top coaches of all time, has helped coach some of the better defensive teams in the league, and has been active on an nba bench recently- unlike westphal. He is not Phil Jackson, Pat Riley, Sloan, or Popovich, or anywhere near that status, but often the next best option are the assistants who have been groomed to take over by these guys.

Rambis has a reputation of getting along with his players, and being a great teacher of the game. Those are two things this team needs in its next coach.
 
I honestly believe that God has better things to do than spend any time thinking about the Kings. I think less coffee and a few more cerversa's will clarify things for you.:)

And with that, don't you think a prayer is in order, maybe for guiding Petrie in his draft choices....:D
 
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