I don't think Denver makes that trade either, but at the same time, Sac should hold out for Nene. If they can't get Nene, than just let Mobley walk. We don't need Najera or Lenard on our payroll. They're fine as a throw-in, but other than that, no.
Why couldn't you have bothgrun said:nene is an insanely better option than shareef. a bit of toughness, a bit of grunt and a bit of size inside. and he has time on his side at 22 too.
NugzFan said:its not because we dont need to give up nene. we can keep him and still get mobley or if not, another SG. if mobley was in the allen/redd/johnson/hughes tier then there might be something to it. but hes not. and the market is flooded with decent SGs. big men have more value.
Diabeticwonder said:Miller would not discuss other teams that are interested, but the Los Angeles Clippers reportedly are one of them.
Bricklayer said:I do beleive the Nuggets will be balking at Nene, and ou have to ask how much better is Cat than the best guy they could get through other (non-Nene) means. But a couple of things:
1) Can the Nuggets keep Nene happy and afford him after next season? Obviously their fans would like to keep him, as would I in their shoes -- part opf what makes people think of them as dangerous is their deep and talented frontcourt. But if he's nto happy coming off the bench (and he's not) and he expectst o be paid like a starter/major payer (and he does) Denver might be forced to do something with him no matter how much they like him. Not as simple as "we want to keep Nene". Obviously, but may not be practical to keep him and so they use him to patch their OG hole with an established starter rather than have a guy not happy about not starting angling for more money than they can pay him.
-- flipside of that argument is if they can hood onto him for another couple of years, soone r or later Camby will be getting old and you slide him in there, But hard to sell a kid on that sort of timetable.
2) if they are reluctant, we might be able to coax them into it but taking Nene, Lenard AND Najera, and trading them back a piece along with Mobley. An ending contract such as Tag to give them cap room (Najera has a big/long contract) or maybe a post guy such as Corliss or something to help replace the loss of Nene. And of course there are always picks.
Anyway, unless they are 100% sure of Nene's spot with thie future team and have a plan on how he's going to end up starting for them in the fairly immediate future, it might be doable.
BigWaxer said:I agree with Sauce... Nene is pretty much the same type of players we have in Corliss, Skinner and Thomas. He is no offensive threat for sure. His defense according to his numbers don't say much for his avg min. He avg's 5 rb's a game. Thats not going to turn us around.
Nene will not make us a WCF contender.
With all this said, I am sure there are unspoken stats and to be honest I have never watched him play a game. I am only going by stats so take my opinion with a grain. His stats don't impress. If those are starter stat numbers then maybe I am missing something. A good backup for sure, maybe to Brad or the future PF Rahim. Othewise he isn't going to change anything here.
BigWaxer said:I agree with Sauce... Nene is pretty much the same type of players we have in Corliss, Skinner and Thomas. He is no offensive threat for sure. His defense according to his numbers don't say much for his avg min. He avg's 5 rb's a game. Thats not going to turn us around.
Nene will not make us a WCF contender.
With all this said, I am sure there are unspoken stats and to be honest I have never watched him play a game. I am only going by stats so take my opinion with a grain. His stats don't impress. If those are starter stat numbers then maybe I am missing something. A good backup for sure, maybe to Brad or the future PF Rahim. Othewise he isn't going to change anything here.
BigWaxer said:I agree with Sauce... Nene is pretty much the same type of players we have in Corliss, Skinner and Thomas. He is no offensive threat for sure. His defense according to his numbers don't say much for his avg min. He avg's 5 rb's a game. Thats not going to turn us around.
Nene will not make us a WCF contender. QUOTE]
i don't think we can get 1 player in our current situation to make us a contender. but he is a solid piece to add and an upgrade. apart from skinner's great run last year, i don't really consider him and corliss on the same level as nene - and thats not even considering their ages yet!
hrdboild said:From a Nuggets fan on RealGM:
"When Marcus Camby was injured for like 7 games in January, Nene got to take his place and play 30 minutes per night......and his stats during that time were.....
18ppg 9rpg 3apg 2bpg 2spg "
Sounds pretty good to me. And if Denver fans think they're going to get the Kings to agree to Najera and Lenard for Mobley, boy I sure hope our team proves them wrong. I would hate to see us help the Nuggets get their man without us getting anything worthwhile in return.
hrdboild said:From a Nuggets fan on RealGM:
"When Marcus Camby was injured for like 7 games in January, Nene got to take his place and play 30 minutes per night......and his stats during that time were.....
18ppg 9rpg 3apg 2bpg 2spg "
Sounds pretty good to me. And if Denver fans think they're going to get the Kings to agree to Najera and Lenard for Mobley, boy I sure hope our team proves them wrong. I would hate to see us help the Nuggets get their man without us getting anything worthwhile in return.
hrdboild said:And if Denver fans think they're going to get the Kings to agree to Najera and Lenard for Mobley, boy I sure hope our team proves them wrong. I would hate to see us help the Nuggets get their man without us getting anything worthwhile in return.
Kev.in said:If the deal doesn't make sense for the Kings, they won't pull the trigger. Petrie is patient, he can wait it out until August or September if that's what he has to do to get Nene in the deal.
Padrino said:thing is, mobley probably won't wait that long.