Lottery Position (we are 10th)

[Oskor]

Yes, I'm bitter.

That makes 2 of us, and I know we are not alone. This just stinks!

 

[Vlade4GM]

Of course Minny needs a big -- tehy;ve been desperately trying to find soemone to put alongside KG for KGs entire career.

Portalnd though -- mentioned before that team gives me a little hope. Not just that they may reach for a SF, but as a potential trading partner to try to trade up. They take our PF for us, we take their SF (presumably) or PG, then we swap. Of course for the favor it will cost us more material, but hey, what's an extra kid or future pick amongst friends when you can have the honor of winning a completely pointless game against the Clippers late in the year to send your Northern California rivals to the playoffs and let them leach your fans, right?

Yes, I'm bitter.

I don't think JYL gets past Seattle, so I don't have much hope for him and I'm still not real big on Hibbert.

 

[nbrans]

I don't think JYL gets past Seattle, so I don't have much hope for him and I'm still not real big on Hibbert.

There's going to be some pressure for Seattle to draft a SF since they have Wilcox/Collison at PF and Swift/Petro/Sene at center. Also, word is they are looking to trade either Watson or Ridnour, so a PG isn't out of the question.

All it takes are a few teams in the top 10 reaching for Julian Wright, Conley and Brewer for the Kings to have a shot at the Hibbert/Noah/Jianlian group.

 

[Bricklayer]

I don't think JYL gets past Seattle, so I don't have much hope for him and I'm still not real big on Hibbert.

We are squarely in beggars cannot be choosers land now. And we beggared ourselves.

 

[Entity]

Hey it could be worse we could have gotten the 8th seed again and gotten the 19th pick or so and not have a chance at any kind of big and be in the same position next season.

 

[John Galt]

we beggared ourselves.

not bad, not bad

 

[Kingster]

One lousy game in the lost column is all we needed.... Jeez, it feels like the regular season isn't over - that losing feeling.

 

[Jerryaki]

All it takes are a few teams in the top 10 reaching for Julian Wright, Conley and Brewer for the Kings to have a shot at the Hibbert/Noah/Jianlian group.

agreed, i feel that j. wright and brewer are going before us, which leaves a big available to us.

 

[coolhandluke]

I'm already looking forward to the 2008 draft lottery.

 

[Kingster]

agreed, i feel that j. wright and brewer are going before us, which leaves a big available to us.

Unless of course the GMs that precede us are as much in love with bigs many on this board. I hope so. Noah is a nothing, Hillbert a project, the other guy a ?. The only thing I've seen impressive from Noah is his speed. He's very fast for a big man. The rest of his game is rather unimpressive.

 

[KingCookie]

The only thing I've seen impressive from Noah is his speed.

And perhaps his repeat NCAA title??

 

[Dime Dropper]

At this point I'd be delighted with Brewer if all the desirable bigs are gone, but I doubt he'll fall to us. Just our luck to get 10th!

 

[Cal-Kings]

....
Actually time to revisit something I am not soon going to forget: Clippers game. Repeat it ten times. Curse it. Spit on it. What a bleeping waste. ....

I still put a lot of blame on the stupid blankety-blank Clippers for coming to that game asleep and not even being able to take it away from our bench players in the 4th quarter. What stupid losers.

 

[Cal-Kings]

I'm already looking forward to the 2008 draft lottery.

I can't go there. It's too depressing.

I have to have hope (even if it's delusional) that a new coach, a trade for Artest, and some new life will spark our team next fall!

Whoohooo! Go Kings!!

It's the pathetic life of a fan.

 

[kennadog]

We're 10th

It does not surprise me that the Kings, once again, have no luck.

 

[SacKings384]

So wait... We get the 10th pick? Or we get the percentages of the 10th team in the lottery. I'm confused...

 

[nbrans]

Oh, on top of this we also have one less chance at the lottery. 18 out of 1,000 as opposed to 19 out of 1,000 for Charlotte and the Bulls.

Only 0.001 different, but STILL.

http://draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2008

 

[kennadog]

So wait... We get the 10th pick? Or we get the percentages of the 10th team in the lottery. I'm confused...

Unless we hit the top 3 slots, we won't pick higher than 10th or lower than 12th (I think?).

However, thanks to the tie, 8th, 9th and 10th have almost the same chances at the top 3 (except the 8th got the one extra chance.)

 

[rings4Kings]

Has it ever worked out where the lottery was exactly the way the teams finished? There is still hope we can move up. We won't know what pick we have until next month.

 

[NoBonus]

The Kings came in third in a three-way tiebreaker? Did Stern bend up the corner of the coin that was flipped to ensure the Knicks, yet again, had a better preference in the draft?

 

[Merdiesel]

I don't get it...
Did they draw the ping pong balls already???

Can we not get any better then 10th?!

 

[fnordius]

Has it ever worked out where the lottery was exactly the way the teams finished? There is still hope we can move up. We won't know what pick we have until next month.

Off the top of my head, I don't know, but the lottery has changed a lot over the years. In '85 it was extremely random, by '87 less so, by '90 still less so, and by the time we got the current system ('95) there was very little movement possible: you either won a top-3 spot, or stayed about where you were.

We have a 1.8% chance of getting 1st, a 2.1% chance of 2nd, a 2.5% chance of third, an 84.6% chance of getting 10th, an 8.7% chance of getting 11th, and a 0.2% chance of getting 12th. There are no other possible outcomes.

 

[Warhawk]

I don't get it...
Did they draw the ping pong balls already???

Can we not get any better then 10th?!

No, they did the "coin flips" to eliminate ties among teams with the same records. We were tied with 2 other teams and could have been 8-10th. Unfortunately, we came out last and are 10th.

The ping-pong balls (lottery positions 1-3) come later, and unfortunately we have a very small chance of landing there.

 

[Entity]

Actually they did use ping pong balls for this as well. they put 3 in a half basketball with logos on them for Sac, NY, and Char. then drew the 1st for 8th pick the second for 9th and the 3rd obviously the 10th pick being us.

 

[Merdiesel]

No, they did the "coin flips" to eliminate ties among teams with the same records. We were tied with 2 other teams and could have been 8-10th. Unfortunately, we came out last and are 10th.

The ping-pong balls (lottery positions 1-3) come later, and unfortunately we have a very small chance of landing there.

Just our luck...
I guess that makes it all that more amazing when we get lucky and get the 1st pick!!

 

[kennadog]

Actually they did use ping pong balls for this as well. they put 3 in a half basketball with logos on them for Sac, NY, and Char. then drew the 1st for 8th pick the second for 9th and the 3rd obviously the 10th pick being us.

If you look up "bad luck" in the dictionary, you'll see the Kings logo.

 

[Bricklayer]

If you look up "bad luck" in the dictionary, you'll see the Kings logo.

Look, when it comes to this, we had our chances to make our own luck. We failed to do so.

 

[SacTownKid]

Its these little things that really hurt a franchise sometimes. Difference between #8 and #10 is the difference between being almost sure of getting at least a guy who fills our needs, and not being sure of that at all (not impossible, but now we ARE looking at taking just whoever is left -- like having the last pick on the pickup courts).

Actually time to revisit something I am not soon going to forget: Clippers game. Repeat it ten times. Curse it. Spit on it. What a bleeping waste. And that one stupid moment was the difference between being in acoin toss today to determine if we were 6th/7th/8th, or one to determine if we were 8th/9th/10th. One completely pointless exercise turned our worst case scenario (8th) into our best case scenario, and now of the 5 teams clustered within 1 game of each other we did in fact manage to pull off getting the dead last draft position. Jolly good show. Morons.

Nothing to do now but break out whatever lucky charms you may own on lottery day: we have a 6.7% chance of getting a Top 3 pick. That's where the hope lies at this point. Some sort of 1 in 18 chance at being saved despite all of our best efforts.

The lotto is stacked all the way to pick 14, I am just glad we'll be getting a talented player more than if we sucked last year or the year before.

 

[HighFlyingMonkey]

Somewhere, Eric Musselman is maniacally laughing

 

[fnordius]

The lotto is stacked all the way to pick 14, I am just glad we'll be getting a talented player more than if we sucked last year or the year before.

Well, stacked is all relative. If you look at the stacked draft of '96 for example, you have guys like Nash, Camby, AI, Kobe and Ray Allen all showing up in one year, which is pretty amazing. But by pick #10, you're looking at Erick Dampier, or Peja at #14, and that was only because nobody else was scouting Europe yet.

2003 started out with LeBron, and Bosh, Wade and Carmelo followed soon after. But #10 was Jarvis Hayes, #14 was Luke Ridnour. In '84, there was Hakeem, Michael, and Charles Barkley, but #10 was Leon Wood and #14 was Michael Cage.

Those are the 3 draft years which were considered to be the best in recent history.

We're likely to get a starter, but not a star.