Kwame Brown (and other big young players with potential)

Kwame Brown is as high maintanence as you can get. Some of my college friends, who are Wizards fans, say the guy is really childish and deserved to be suspended long before this. Jordan (not MJ; coach for Wizards) was really very lenient with Kwame up till now.

I can understand him not liking the fans booing him, but he's really a cart before the horse type of person. He'll only play well if he's cheered, and not before. He's been quoted for saying stuff to the effect of purposely holding out on home games because the crowd doesn't deserve his best efforts. It's really a viscious cycle. His best when he was consistently cheered wasn't all that great and can only be called inconsistent. His feelings are easily hurt and he's as far from a self-motivator as you can get. I don't know if RA knows how or would even want to bother with handling the guy.
 
Bricklayer said:
You would actually intentionally trade for an injury prone player to join the Kings. :eek: You must be a glutton for punishment. ;)

McDyess has been really good this year for them, but realistically at his age, and with his injury history, it would be like picking Webb back up or something. Sure if we had the rest of the team right to the brink of a title and needed an extra piece, but seems like a waste if there is any sort of 2 or 3 or 5 yr plan involved. Just seems like more of a "put you over the top" mercenary sort of player at this point than any sort of long term building block.
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I think he can be viable option to help mentor Nene and he is only 30 so not that old. I see alot of McDyess in Nene's game. Ofcorse this can back fire pretty bad if MyDyess gets injuried and Nene does not live up to potention but I think the positives far out weigh the negatives
 
What's interesting in this thread is the casual nature with which people suggest dealing Kenny Thomas. One of the reasons the 76ers took on Webber's monster contract was to rid themselves of a few bad contracts of their own. Thomas' contract runs through 2010. Any deal that involves Kenny Thomas will likely be a situation where the Kings take back less in return. Ironically, in an article before the trading deadline, both Webber and Thomas' contracts were described as untradeable.
 
Joker112 said:
What's interesting in this thread is the casual nature with which people suggest dealing Kenny Thomas. One of the reasons the 76ers took on Webber's monster contract was to rid themselves of a few bad contracts of their own. Thomas' contract runs through 2010. Any deal that involves Kenny Thomas will likely be a situation where the Kings take back less in return. Ironically, in an article before the trading deadline, both Webber and Thomas' contracts were described as untradeable.
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I think its bad, and means that dealing KT himself as the main piece in a trade is virtually impossible. But I don't think its so horrible that he's unmovable as an extra piece in a larger deal. KT is nobody's all-star, but he can still start for a team not trying to immediately win the title. If a team was trying to bust up, let's just say the KG contract, and was trying to get multiple starters or near-starters in return, he would still work as a potential trading piece to help them fill a spot (and obviously in any situation where he is part of a larger deal the team trading for him would be getting rid of a larger more onerous contrct anyway).

I'm still wondering what the hell thye were thinking when they gave him a 7 year deal or whatever. That's just terrible. I mean, just moronic. You don't give mid-level players like KT 7 year deals. Webb's contract was made bad by injuries. But KTs was bad from birth.
 
Zyphen said:
Kwame Brown is as high maintanence as you can get. Some of my college friends, who are Wizards fans, say the guy is really childish and deserved to be suspended long before this. Jordan (not MJ; coach for Wizards) was really very lenient with Kwame up till now.

I can understand him not liking the fans booing him, but he's really a cart before the horse type of person. He'll only play well if he's cheered, and not before. He's been quoted for saying stuff to the effect of purposely holding out on home games because the crowd doesn't deserve his best efforts. It's really a viscious cycle. His best when he was consistently cheered wasn't all that great and can only be called inconsistent. His feelings are easily hurt and he's as far from a self-motivator as you can get. I don't know if RA knows how or would even want to bother with handling the guy.
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I was just about to say the same thing. Kwame Brown is very immature and his attitude is very childish. I wouldn't want to put up with him regardless of his potential anc cost. He can't deal with stressful situations, he just gives up. He's not worth it if you ask me.
 
Kwame Brown is as high maintanence as you can get. Some of my college friends, who are Wizards fans, say the guy is really childish and deserved to be suspended long before this. Jordan (not MJ; coach for Wizards) was really very lenient with Kwame up till now
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Not to split hairs, but he is really childish because, well, he IS basically still a child. Straight out of high school, over-whelmed by the expectations, not very mature and the thing just seemed to spiral out of control. This doesn't mean he won't mature ever. He's barely 22, hardly unsalvagable.
 
I'm very open to the idea of bringing in Kwame. If he develops, that's your PF right there, and with lots of upside. If he doesn't, well, there is always next year. Unless we acquire a big star, we won't really be contenders anyhow. If he's available, go for it.
 
Brand is awesome, too bad, we'd have to give the farm to get him (Bibby and more probally). I've heard rumors either Maggette or Brand is going after this season, my guess it's going to be Maggette.
 
DocHolliday said:
If we go after one player to fill the spot of Power Forward it should be Elton Brand.
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You're aiming too low. If we are going to go after players who are under contract, let's go after Garnett:D
 
Just remembered that Brown had career highs of 30 and 19 against us last year. That means we'll probably pick him up, if the trend continues.
 
Kwame Brown is NOT the answer to the kings woes. if anything he may prove to be a cancer on this team. he is not known to be a team player and his "potential" is not worth his work ethics or antics on/off the court. he would be a better fit in say.. portland where going to jail is a normal thing. dont see him working well in Sac.
 
I hesitate to bring up this guy's name on this thread, considering the endless inane banter this subject has produced on this board this season, but...

...I was listening to Grant Napear and he said he thinks Ron Artest would be a good gamble for a team, since he thinks Artest has been humbled by the events of this year and will look to have a good year to prove himself.
 
Andriod_KiNg said:
Is Tyson Chander a FA ? He would be great here.
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He is a restricted free agent so the chances of us getting him are pretty slim and any chance we do have will have to be via trade
 
Bricklayer said:
I think its bad, and means that dealing KT himself as the main piece in a trade is virtually impossible. But I don't think its so horrible that he's unmovable as an extra piece in a larger deal. KT is nobody's all-star, but he can still start for a team not trying to immediately win the title. If a team was trying to bust up, let's just say the KG contract, and was trying to get multiple starters or near-starters in return, he would still work as a potential trading piece to help them fill a spot (and obviously in any situation where he is part of a larger deal the team trading for him would be getting rid of a larger more onerous contrct anyway).

I'm still wondering what the hell thye were thinking when they gave him a 7 year deal or whatever. That's just terrible. I mean, just moronic. You don't give mid-level players like KT 7 year deals. Webb's contract was made bad by injuries. But KTs was bad from birth.
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I distinctly recall the Sports Guy's take on KT's contract. Something to the effect of "you know KT and his agent had to be looking around for Ashton Kusher and the crew from punk'd to jump out at any point after the contract offer was made". Spot on if you ask me. Nothing against KT --- he's a player that works hard and certainly fights for everything he's been given, but he was truly gifted that contract by the 76ers.
 
isn't Udonis Haslem a free agent this summer?
he's a smaller power forward (only 6'8") but he definitely knows how to hit the boards (9.1rpg; 11.8rpg in the playoffs)...

what do you guys think?
 
tetsuo916 said:
isn't Udonis Haslem a free agent this summer?
he's a smaller power forward (only 6'8") but he definitely knows how to hit the boards (9.1rpg; 11.8rpg in the playoffs)...

what do you guys think?
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Got that undersized/no intimidation thing going again. But I think the larger issue is just that Shaq really makes him better as a role player -- just a garbageman who scraps and picks up loose balls and points while everybody focuses on the big guy and Flash. Nothing at all wrong with that, but without a superstar to play alongside I don't think he's the sort of guy you actually WANT to have starting for you there. Really not as good as KT, and only marginally bigger than him. A guy like Boozer is at least a bulky powerful 6'8", but Haslem is kind of like Kenny in that he's not only shortish for a PF, he's also a lightweight. Has the right attitude though -- we could use a few, actually a lot of, scrappy dirtworkers.
 
AleksandarN said:
i wounder if the Nuggets are willing to trade Camby or Nene. Camby would be the player we need on this team.
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Camby, no. He's been the MVP for Denver this year and there is no way they trade him.
 
Nene remains of interest though. Not the mega-shotblocker/rebounder we could use, but a big talented kid with a lot of skills.
 
Kwame Brown a King?

KWAME BROWN
First Pick in NBA Draft
Underachiever with the Washington Wizards
Slight Brushes with the law
Fell out of favor with Wizards management
FUTURE POWER FORWARD WITH THE SACRAMENTO KINGS;)

Does this sound familiar?

I think Kwame Brown may be worth a gamble if the price is right!!
 
Purple Reign said:
....Underachiever with the Washington Wizards
....... Does this sound familiar?
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CHRIS WEBBER
YEAR FG% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
94-95 WAS .495 .9.60 4.7 1.54 1.57 20.1

95-96 WAS .543 .7.60 5.0 1.80 .60 23.7

96-97 WAS .518 .10.30 4.6 1.69 1.90 20.1

97-98 WAS .482 .9.50 3.8 1.56 1.75 21.9

I'm not sure he was an underachiever
 
Purple Reign said:
KWAME BROWN
I think Kwame Brown may be worth a gamble if the price is right!!
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That's the kicker! The PRICE.

The thing is Kwame is not really a shot blocker or defensive presence.

Could he develop into a defensive shot blocker? Not sure.
 
The Kid is 6'11" and 250lbs and is a great athlete and just turned 23. He needs a change of scenery and I wouldn't mind the Kings trying to get him somehow.
 
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