[Game] Kings v. Blazers 11/09/13

[Bosnian Diehard]

Hey, we aren't that great right now, but at least we aren't Utah.

 

[TheFirstBandwagonKingsFan]

The problem is Marcus Thornton, John Salmons, Patrick Patterson, Jason Thompson were given credit before the season for being good players, and all are now scrubs. No coach can deal with half your rotation turning to duds

Skill sucking Aliens or rightfull called the Space Jam Theory?(Besides Fish of course)

 

[Bricklayer]

I'm sorry, but this is the first game where I really have a problem with the way Malone is coaching it. Idiot smallballer crap. We get crushed. So he goes back to it. We get crushed again. Who's that on?

 

[PurpleHaze]

Down by 20, I'm down, fans at game are down, but this thread is little bit of fun with beer(s) on tap.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

Hey, we aren't that great right now, but at least we aren't Utah.

Utah will blow us out if we keep playing like this

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Will Ray McCallum score the first points of his NBA career tonight!?

 

[miltonap]

It's hard to do anything with shooters when you have Isaiah "2nd coming of Michael Jordon" Thomas continuously pounding the ball on offense. This roster sucks. Again, nothing new but there's a lot of work ahead to get this thing fixed.

 

[VF21]

I don't know how you know that. I don't know that. We've never seen Isaiah Thomas play when the team is structured around him being the secondary scoring option. I happen to think that there are enough shots to go around in one starting session of minutes for both players, especially when you consider the fact that they play completely different positions.

Most middling teams have an IT in the starting lineup. Monta Ellis, Rudy Gay, Brandon Jennings, etc. Again, you don't win a championship featuring those guys, but they bring you to a certain spot in the standings, then you trade them or move them to their intended role once you are contending. You have to walk before you can run, or however that saying goes.

I can't stress it enough how not 'ideal' this whole team is. The pieces don't fit, but we owe it to this city, to DeMarcus Cousins, to the new ownership to TRY and win as many games as we can. Or at least I thought that was the plan. I think starting Isaiah Thomas gives us a better chance to win games, period. It has its pro's and con's, but I think the pro's outweigh the con's. That's my take in a nutshell.

But we know how each other feels about this whole situation at this point.

We have to work right now with what we have. What we have is IT as the second option who, when he's in traffic for a contested shot, all too often doesn't look for the open man. I'm not saying he's horrible or anything, I'm just saying that's the main problem I have with his game and attitude right now. Yes, he should definitely be taking value shots but he should be looking for Ben or Jimmer or whomever when he doesn't have that shot.

 

[HereWeBoogie]

at this point im just becoming amused by how terrible this team is

 

[VF21]

Coach Malone already feeling the stress of this job... feel bad for him

Maybe I should offer him some brandy.

 

[cuad]

Poor Ben got mauled on that one drive.

 

[Npliam]

Hey, we aren't that great right now, but at least we aren't Utah.

Ouch....

Utah has played a much tougher schedule.

 

[miltonap]

I really like this lineup btw, good balance of shooting and defense

 

[Kingsfan23]

gave this team way too much credit, thought they would lose down the stretch tonight

 

[PurpleHaze]

at this point im just becoming amused by how terrible this team is

Portland is amused too.

 

[cuad]

Jimmer, Ben, GV, and Cousins. D:

 

[VF21]

at this point im just becoming amused by how terrible this team is

Skill sucking Aliens or rightfull called the Space Jam Theory?(Besides Fish of course)

Oh, I just accidentally figured out how to quote two different posts at once.

 

[spudfan]

I don't know how you know that. I don't know that. We've never seen Isaiah Thomas play when the team is structured around him being the secondary scoring option. I happen to think that there are enough shots to go around in one starting session of minutes for both players, especially when you consider the fact that they play completely different positions.

Most middling teams have an IT in the starting lineup. Monta Ellis, Rudy Gay, Brandon Jennings, etc. Again, you don't win a championship featuring those guys, but they bring you to a certain spot in the standings, then you trade them or move them to their intended role once you are contending. You have to walk before you can run, or however that saying goes.

I can't stress it enough how not 'ideal' this whole team is. The pieces don't fit, but we owe it to this city, to DeMarcus Cousins, to the new ownership to TRY and win as many games as we can. Or at least I thought that was the plan. I think starting Isaiah Thomas gives us a better chance to win games, period. It has its pro's and con's, but I think the pro's outweigh the con's. That's my take in a nutshell.

But we know how each other feels about this whole situation at this point.

First bolded point: IT isn't as good as those guys.

Second bold: What good does gunning and trying to win a few more games do for us? Let's us get worse odds in the lottery? Makes us worse in the future? I think you are in the minority with wanting to win more games while playing a style that isn't going to get us anywhere. Most people would much rather try and build for the future.

 

[VF21]

Ouch....

Utah has played a much tougher schedule.

Gallows humor.

Want some brandy?

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Portland is closing in on 2x as many rebounds as us. Cousins has 10, no one else has more than 3.

JT - 7pts, 3 REB (11 mins)
PP - 6pts, 2 REB (27 min) TWENTY SEVEN

 

[cuad]

omg Jimmer got a rebound.

 

[Kingsfan23]

Hey, we aren't that great right now, but at least we aren't Utah.

At this point man, if that were true I don't know if it would be a good thing.. I want Wiggins

 

[sdballer]

First bolded point: IT isn't as good as those guys.

Second bold: What good does gunning and trying to win a few more games for us? Let's us get worse odds in the lottery? Makes us worse in the future? I think you are in the minority with wanting to win more games while playing a style that isn't going to get us anywhere. Most people would much rather try and build for the future.

The other problem is that with the exception of Jennings, none of those guys are pg's which mean they usually have to get the ball in order to ball hog it, which gives whoever is running the point the option to pass to others. When IT goes into hero mode, he has all the control. He's extremely efficient and really good at what he does but his style isn't best suited for a major minute starting pg.

 

[sterö]

The positive thing is, if we finish dead last we get one of Wiggins, Randle, Exum or Parker for sure.

 

[Kingsfan23]

Ben going to his left there.. nice

 

[HereWeBoogie]

Ben is already the 2nd best player on this team. and he contributes more on defense than Thornton/Salmons/Patterson combined. crashing the boards, going for blocks, getting his hands on passes.

 

[spudfan]

The other problem is that with the exception of Jennings, none of those guys are pg's which mean they usually have to get the ball in order to ball hog it, which gives whoever is running the point the option to pass to others. When IT goes into hero mode, he has all the control. He's extremely efficient and really good at what he does but his style isn't best suited for a major minute starting pg.

Agreed. The comparison to those guys in both skill and utility is pretty out there.

 

[cuad]

Ben is such a great player.

 

[swisshh]

So far, this Ben, Jimmer, GV, Cousins, and MBAM lineup has been the most entertaining to watch.

 

[VF21]

The other problem is that with the exception of Jennings, none of those guys are pg's which mean they usually have to get the ball in order to ball hog it, which gives whoever is running the point the option to pass to others. When IT goes into hero mode, he has all the control. He's extremely efficient and really good at what he does but his style isn't best suited for a major minute starting pg.

Here I come to save the day!!!!