[Game] Kings @ Spurs, 2/1/14, 5:30 PST, 8:30 EST
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PurpleHaze
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Total ISO. No picks set. No pass except for ISO. Result - tough shot. Could have got better shot most likely.
I thought that was a great look for Rudy. Just missed it.
Well to be fair we were also lucky the Spurs were missing a guy or two ..
PurpleHaze
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What's difference between this game and last nights game? I can't think of any. Only one word comes to mind - MELTDOWN!
HereWeBoogie
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IT with another selfish crapty game. But he got those stats in the box score!
HighFlyingMonkey
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You can almost feel the disappointment from so many posters that IT didn't take and miss the final shot 
rainmaker
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I'm not trying to pick on you as I have a lot of respect for you as a poster but this isn't really my argument, at least against IT creating for teammates. I'm not asking or expecting him to make 8 guys good offensive players. What I expect from a PG on this team is
a) Pass to Rudy when he's wide open on the break next to you instead of dribbling into three defenders
b) Pass to Boogie when you run a pick & pop with him and take both defenders with you, instead of forcing a miss over both defenders
c) When you get past your man and have MT/Ben open, hit them a few more times rather than forcing up contested runners in the lane
Those are just three examples and have all happened recently. I'm not asking for Nash part II, what I am asking for is a willingness to involve teammates after they do the work of getting open. When our PG is regularly jacking up 20+ shots, I don't see how one can argue he is doing near enough to involve his teammates and when you shoulder the load, you shoulder the responsibility which comes with it. Rose/Westbrook don't blame their teammates for a loss after launching 25 shots. No, they took on the responsibility.
MassachusettsKingsFan
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He's been better this season than he has been this last week or so without Cousins. He's shot the ball well all year until this recent stretch. A point a shot isn't indicative of the kind of year he's had.
Tetsujin
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But the defensive breakdowns and 4th quarter meltdowns are.
HereWeBoogie
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So sick of this selfish, me me me, hollow stat sheet stuffing, box score watching jerk
This, IMO, is the flaw in your argument: I neither expect Thomas to pick up the scoring slack, nor play forty minutes. We don't really know if anyone else is capable of taking up the scoring slack, because no one but the ice cold Thornton is allowed to shoot, besides Gay and Thomas. Who ****ing needs Thomas to score twenty points? How about he gets one more layup for Gray, one more jump hook for Thompson, and one more back door for Thornton (as opposed to making him only take contested jumpers against the shot clock), and then he only has to score fourteen points?!
Who the hell needs him to play forty minutes? How about we let McCallum hassle the other team's point guard for ten minutes (Seriously, am I the only person who thought that the ball movement was much better when McCallum was in, instead of Thomas?), and then he only has to play 30-35 minutes?
ShastaKingsFan
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One of the better teams that have an established starting point guard, should trade for IT and put him right back into his 6th man role, with no questions asked and no maybe possibility that he'll be a starter. Could be a steal for some team, if they can pull it off.
If it happens, lets hope we somehow get something of decent value in return
If it happens, lets hope we somehow get something of decent value in return
MassachusettsKingsFan
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I want Thomas to all those things as well. I really do.
And some games he's really close to doing what we need him to do. Before Cousins went down and the Kings were hovering around .500 since the Gay trade things were clicking on some levels.
And he's jacking up 20+ shots now. He hasn't been all year. He's at about 15 FGA per game last time I checked. This has been a rough stretch, and I am not happy with how the entire team has played without Cousins, but what can you do?
So is he doing enough to involve them? maybe not. How capable are they? In my opinion, not very.
MassachusettsKingsFan
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I think Thomas' minutes have gotten way out of hand. I would have played Jimmer more last night. I would have played Ray more tonight. I didn't want him to play another 38 minutes tonight. I don't think it's IT's fault he plays so much. I'd like to see what his numbers look like when he's playing in the low 30's (like his season average).... We've stretched him way beyond his point of peak efficiency.
Hardly. Aside from the month of December, when he was hot, he's shooting .418 on the season. It's way more than just this "recent stretch."
There's just no realistic way this happens. You put IT back on the bench for Ray and you're begging for problems. BIG problems. The only way IT goes back to being 6th man is if we're able to bring in a legitimate starting PG. That's just the way it is, no matter how much some of us fans want it to be different.
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SacKings2002NBAChampions
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JT is a good player that I'd like to keep to come off the bench. His contract isn't even bad. I like his hustle on D and he did somewhat well against a hall of famer. Duncan is a beast...
PurpleHaze
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Besides that solidly mediocre FG% is there any way of knowing how many times Pizza Leader has gotten his shot blocked this season? It seems to happen around 2-3 times each game or more - which is astronomical.
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