[Game] Kings @ Mavericks, 10/31/21 12:30pm Pacific, 3:30pm Eastern
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iowamcnabb
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Haliburton needs to start taking his shots. By far the most frustrating part of this loss for me.
UK_King
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We had loads of chances to turn the tide in this game and blew them all.
Kinda amazing we were even close when you consider buddy didn't hit a bucket until the 4th and Fox couldn't get anything going.
Don't get the criticism of Hali he was a big part of the spell where we got close in the 4th. Can't do much about a half court heave that goes in.
Kinda amazing we were even close when you consider buddy didn't hit a bucket until the 4th and Fox couldn't get anything going.
Don't get the criticism of Hali he was a big part of the spell where we got close in the 4th. Can't do much about a half court heave that goes in.
Tetsujin
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Teams are just playing off of him at the perimeter now and it's throwing the entire offense off.
Lol
Tetsujin
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Combination of bad shooting, bad coaching, and defenses collapsing in on him harder than ever.
kb02
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one speed, one level scorer, one dimensional right now. trade him quick or hope it’s an anomaly.
Kingster
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Fox took 16 shots for 14 points. 60% from the free throw line. Four assists. How many fast breaks did he lead in this game? When did he show he's the fastest player in the league? When did the Kings make the Mavs play *their* fast pace? Fox looks to do be a shell of himself. I still say that if we had the old good Fox this team would be undefeated.
SacTownKid
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I think they are using him exactly the same way as the year before last and the start of last year. Off the ball and mostly in side pick and roll or iso. If there is a plan it's that they don't want to become too dependent on the middle. Bad idea short term even if wise long term. They have them starting from scratch yet again this year. They already learned to crawl. Start there and learn to walk rather than switching immediately to cartwheels.
Fox last year was able to get into a rhythm as the true go to. Once that happened he gained way more confidence in his shot. This is why year after year Buddy is so valuable. Buddy is the only player that can bail out the bad basketball from 3. This is year 3, it's not a coincidence at this point.
Kingz19
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I try not to turn on guys after only a few games early in the season since chances are it will make for some poorly aged takes. I’ve already seen some takes that I suspect will sour soon.
I’m only saying I’m worried now. Mostly because he hasn’t played under control at any point in the first 6 games and of most concern, he isnt getting past defenders consistently. Even on slower wing players. He seems slower and with Fox that is cause for concern.
Tetsujin
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Our offense in general isn't emphasizing attacking the rim as much as we did last year. Most of our drives seem to stop around seven or eight feet from the basket so we can take a bad mid-range shot or try to throw the lob to Holmes.
SacTownKid
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True. The only difference is this. Under Luke, Luke would finally have his post option passer to work out of. IF Simmons actually was willing to do it full time of course. With some of the things we've heard from him out of people associated with him it sounds like he's ready for legit clear out LeBron ball to come his way. That ain't happening here with Fox so why would it with him? haha.
If the Kings hit the same weak percentage the Mavs hit, Kings win.
captain bill
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This felt like a game we can just forget and move on from. Completely ice cold from 3 but stayed competitive. Cut it to 3 and had a stop until Luka hit an insane half court 3 and we came unglued right after for the full court leak out to seal it. And on a Sunday afternoon in late October
Letsgokings13
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I think he would've found more open looks and drawn the defenders in harder. 6'10 driving at you is a whole other monster than 6'3 coming at you when both can't shoot. He could also post up when needed.
captain bill
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It’s concerning especially that we’ve added another player in Davion who can do the same. Offense needs to be built around that when it opens up things like the Holmes p&r and collapsing defenses for a Buddy 3
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
It's like Luke watched a highlight package of guards making passes to Holmes on drives last season and decided to devote his entire offense to recreating that regardless of the general circumstances to make those plays happen. If you're driving and looking to stop at ten feet, it just puts the entire offense in no-mans-land.
SacTownKid
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When almost every guard (other than when Buddy goes off on his own) is struggling from game to game and you're a guard team, it's likely spacing and timing issues. Davion has struggled, Haliburton has, TD has all but disappeared. Barnes doing what he has been is great, but it still speaks to the fact that this is supposedly a GUARD team. You live and die by what those GUARDS do. This is the bed they made construction wise. They have to accept that and deal with it. Harkless isn't going to allow him to avoid that reality, haha.
SacTownKid
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Yeah, maybe in this game, but the Mavs still took better shots so over the course of a season, they'll beat you in the end. They'll make the playoffs. You'll be on the outside looking in.
SacTownKid
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Same story, different year. Code for if Buddy can bomb us back in we win. lol.
He spent the whole game day dreaming about CoJo highlights.
We were down 17-5. Kings outscored Mavs 94-88 after the poor start even though they couldnt make a three to save their lives. Shocked me too from what I saw but the math says Walton is right.
SacTownKid
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What you do early in games, or late, creates the math you end up with. Simple as that. On the flipside, if the Mavs hit those easy shots from 3 they should have? This isn't even close, or is only close if the Kings go absolutely nuts from downtown. The Kings busting their humps to get back in, or having someone explode isn't new or impossible. It just shouldn't be necessary because we've seen it come up short in the end before. Or where players wear down in game or during the season.
I'd like to see some lineup tinkering. As good as Buddy has been off the bench (aside from today) maybe it's time to have him start again. Start Davion alongside Fox. Keep the ball in Fox's hands. Stop giving him the Tyreke treatment. Let Hali run the second unit with TD. Whatever we do, it's going to be hard to find something that works when none of our rotation guards can consistently hit a three. That's gotta change eventually, right?
Also, can someone call Joerger and have him teach Walton how to use Buddy?
Also, can someone call Joerger and have him teach Walton how to use Buddy?
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