It's early, but anybody have a draft wish list yet?

i have got my games for today


16:00 USF vs Georgetown
18:30 Baylor vs Oklahoma St



I need to choose a game for these lot???

19:00 Central Michigan vs Ohio
19:00 Temple vs Rhode Island
19:00 Ohio St vs Wisconsin
19:00 La Salle vs ST. JOSEPHS
19:00 Georgia Southern vs WESTERN CAROLINA
19:00 Milwaukee vs Green Bay
19:00 Holy Cross vs LEHIGH
19:00 American University vs COLGATE
19:30 STB Le Havre vs Cholet Basket
20:00 Arizona vs Stanford
20:00 Penn St vs Iowa
20:00 UCF vs SMU
20:00 UTSA vs LAMAR
20:00 UNC-Greensboro vs Furman



21:00 North Carolina vs Maryland

23:00 Kentucky vs South Carolina



Who should i be looking out for in there games then??????
 
i have got my games for today


16:00 USF vs Georgetown
18:30 Baylor vs Oklahoma St



I need to choose a game for these lot???

19:00 Central Michigan vs Ohio
19:00 Temple vs Rhode Island
19:00 Ohio St vs Wisconsin
19:00 La Salle vs ST. JOSEPHS
19:00 Georgia Southern vs WESTERN CAROLINA
19:00 Milwaukee vs Green Bay
19:00 Holy Cross vs LEHIGH
19:00 American University vs COLGATE
19:30 STB Le Havre vs Cholet Basket
20:00 Arizona vs Stanford
20:00 Penn St vs Iowa
20:00 UCF vs SMU
20:00 UTSA vs LAMAR
20:00 UNC-Greensboro vs Furman



21:00 North Carolina vs Maryland

23:00 Kentucky vs South Carolina



Who should i be looking out for in there games then??????

Ohio State (not Ohio) Sullinger
Baylor - Perry Jones
Kentucky - Davis, Gilchrist, Teague, Terrence Jones, and Doron Lamb
North Carolina - Barnes, Henson, and Zeller
 
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and do you see a decent game in the 7-8 starting games

All I know is from the past. Arizona and Stanford have good programs and that's about it. I already mentioned Ohio State and that's a must see. The rest as far as I know are average to worse. I could be wrong.
 
and do you see a decent game in the 7-8 starting games

Oklahoma St./Baylor is a must see game. Lots of talent on both teams, expecially Baylor. I like Quincy Miller of Baylor. He's an interesting watch. At first glance he appears as though he's in slow motion, but after a while, you realize he's just so smooth that its an illusion. I remember thinking the same thing about Kevin Durant the first time I saw him. Please! I'm not comparing him to Durant.
 
right so the games i watched yesterday....

USF Vs Georgetown

USF were crushed by georgetown there center Gilchrist led the team in scoring. Gilchrist put up 15 points with 4 rebounds while Toarlyn Fitzpatrick put up eight points with five rebounds off the bench.

Ohio State vs Wisconsin

Jared Sullinger had 24 points and 10 rebounds while Deshaun Thomas added 16 points and six boards however Aaron Craft and Lenzelle Smith combined to go just 2-5 from the floor with seven points. thats not a good thing...


North Carolina Vs. Maryland


First time i have seen barnes play and he looked good....Tyler Zeller scored 22 points and Harrison Barnes had 18, as North Carolina left it late to down Maryland, 83-74, on Saturday.

The Tar Heels got 17 points and 12 rebounds from John Henson and a career- high 16 assists from Kendall Marshall to earn the victory.

Terrell Stoglin scored 20 points for maryland too...
 
I really like Lamb, Moultrie, and Kidd-Gilchrist at this stage. Perry Jones is also intriguing, and seems like a Petrie pick in every way, but we'll see what direction we go. Moultrie seems to be a great SF project, needing time to mature and having a lot of attributes that could make him very effective later on. Even though he's being listed as a PF, his natural position seems to be the 3. I think Moultrie or Kidd-Gilchrist gets the pick.
 
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Moultrie is not a 3. He's a faceup PF and suited neither physically nor skillwise for SF. Lamb is more quick than strong even for SG so at the 3 he's really undersized. As guard he's an excellent prospect though.
 
North Carolina Vs. Maryland


First time i have seen barnes play and he looked good....Tyler Zeller scored 22 points and Harrison Barnes had 18, as North Carolina left it late to down Maryland, 83-74, on Saturday.

The Tar Heels got 17 points and 12 rebounds from John Henson and a career- high 16 assists from Kendall Marshall to earn the victory.

Terrell Stoglin scored 20 points for maryland too...

I watched this game as well, and it was the first time I have watched Maryland play this year. Their young freshman center Alex Len looks like a player to keep an eye on. He is listed at 7'1, 225 lbs, but looked like he weighed more than that to me. I liked his skill set.

Henson has another impressive game for UNC as did Marshall (expect for the TOs). I don't know what it is about Barnes, but he just never impresses me. He had a nice game (even is his shot was a little off) and played solid defense. I just don't see why so many think he should be one of the top 3 picks in the draft. I also don't know what to think about Zeller. He seems to get the most out of his ability in college, but I wonder how it will translate to the NBA.
 
I think Barnes looks a lot like Gay in college: very athletic but doesn't have very good handle so he's not driving inside agressively, often defers to teammates, doesn't pass particularly well. But still Barnes is an excellent shooter and a pretty good defender. And that's why he won't bust. His career may not warrant very high pick in the end but he will be an NBA starter or 30 min sub at least. I think there was a lot of hype about 2012 draft especially after a few of last year's freshmen returned. But it's looking more and more that this will be more of a very deep draft than 2003 type of draft so a lot of people seem to be dissapointed with projected top prospects.
 
so do many people got to being a senior into the NBA

It used to happen a lot more often back in the old days when very few players even thought about leaving school before their Junior year. If you look around, you will still find plenty of Seniors make there way into the NBA. The Kings drafted Jimmer Fredette this year and he was a senior. Other seniors taken in the first round of the draft: Nolan Smith, Kenneth Faried, Marshon Brooks, JuJuan Johnson, Norris Cole, and Jimmy Butler. There were also 12 more seniors drafted in the 2nd round.
 
I think Barnes looks a lot like Gay in college: very athletic but doesn't have very good handle so he's not driving inside agressively, often defers to teammates, doesn't pass particularly well. But still Barnes is an excellent shooter and a pretty good defender. And that's why he won't bust. His career may not warrant very high pick in the end but he will be an NBA starter or 30 min sub at least. I think there was a lot of hype about 2012 draft especially after a few of last year's freshmen returned. But it's looking more and more that this will be more of a very deep draft than 2003 type of draft so a lot of people seem to be dissapointed with projected top prospects.

Barnes is nowhere near athletic as Gay.
 
You mean he doesn't jump as high? Because all the other tools are there.
And he's as skilled as sophomore Gay was outside of maybe handles.
 
If people felt like we missed out exciting times with Rubio, or miss the passing abilities and flash of J-Will, here's a name for a cheap, under-the-radar Euro that could hit the mark: Tomas Satoransky. Projected between 18-25 right now, and could swing as a PG/SG- considering our needs in the passing department, could be a nice, cheap fit. To be honest, besides Lamb, Beal, and Marshall, I may like him better than any G in the draft. Great speed and ability.
 
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does anyone have any knowledge of the european leagues and players in that league.... if so can you let me know through pm or on here who i should be looking out for and which teams i should be watching :)

also when does a player have to declare themselfs for the draft and which is the best mock draft to look at please :)
 
does anyone have any knowledge of the european leagues and players in that league.... if so can you let me know through pm or on here who i should be looking out for and which teams i should be watching :)

also when does a player have to declare themselfs for the draft and which is the best mock draft to look at please :)

I like draftexpress.com
 
DX's mock draft isn't really a mock draft though, it's really just a ranking until the draft lottery, and then they take team needs into account and it becomes a real mock draft.
 
does anyone have any knowledge of the european leagues and players in that league.... if so can you let me know through pm or on here who i should be looking out for and which teams i should be watching :)

also when does a player have to declare themselfs for the draft and which is the best mock draft to look at please :)

It's a funny year for Euros (I'm a huge Euroleague fan)- the '91 class is coming into its own, but many of the players have been around a while and might gain a lot of stock in the lead up to the international games this year. My top list, and Kings targets:

1. Tomas Satoransky (Czech Republic), PG/SG: Great dual-position guard with fantastic length and leaping ability. OK defense, fantastic court vision and passing ability, very smart with the ball, and great range on his shot. Think of a mix between Marko Jaric, Sarunas Marciulonis, and a less flashy, less explosive J-Will. A project, but could go places and is very, very talented. Could excel on a team where he doesn't have to get heavy minutes for a year or two. Also, deeply desires to play in NBA and has excellent English- often speaks to the maturity factor. Doesn't try to do too much, but that restraint may be a good thing for a player with his type of game. He could be a great complement to a player like Tyreke, in that his patience (and court vision) in setting up plays and quick passes could create a better flow for a charging, aggressive, ball-hungry guard like Evans. Projects to late first round (19-30).

2. Evan Fournier (France), SG/SF: Don't know much about him, but a solid player from what I hear with good range and a decent shot. I hear he has good speed and mobility, but again, not very familiar. A chance he may not even come out. The buzz with this kid stems from the fact he is an excellent ballhandler and is creative as hell, with star potential. Shoots good against tough defense, and seems to excel at making something out of nothing. The downside is his 3 shot isn't great, and despite his ability to attack the rim and get good looks, he can be as streaky as they come. He plays a pretty good D, although Euro players rarely possess the physical or speed games that compare to the NBA players he'd meet every night. Still, he offers a nice project, and may have the highest ceiling of any international eligible in the draft. Could go virtually anywhere in the draft, depending on what stock teams put in his season, versatility, and workouts. My guess is somewhere between 20 and 25.

3. Furkan Aldemir (Turkey), PF/C: A project, but an absolute rebounding machine. He's not explosively quick or great in transition, but he plays with a ton of energy and can really wear teams down inside, plus get above the rim. His splits project him as a 10P/10+R a game guy in EuroLeague, and I suspect that projection would be his ceiling in the NBA. Still, he's a great fit on a team needing an affordable PF option and has a lot to offer. May never develop a shot, but could convert 3-4 putbacks a night. He's not David Lee or Foster, but he'd certainly make teams pay for letting him charge the lane. A great 2nd rd. pick.

4. Leon Radosevic (Croatia), PF/C: In my opinion, perhaps the biggest sleeper international pick in the draft. He really could go either way, projection wise: he's not a very flashy or even overly talented player, but he has a tremendous feel for the game and doesn't try to do too much. In particular, he's great in transition offense and has a dangerously accurate shot for someone his size. If he plays the 3 in the NBA, he could present a big challenge. He certainly, defensively, wouldn't be great fit for the 5 in my opinion, but many are putting him there now. He's a very clean player, and has the fundamentals down. Also, he played a lot of minutes last year and could be more "battle ready" than the rest. I would compare him, when he's on, to a slower version of Drazen Petrovic (even though Petro was a guard- his shot and command is that good). Tons of excitement, lots of lean ins and fade aways, and not afraid to go at anyone. Defense will be a project, but a very high ceiling pick. The phrase "high basketball IQ" comes up a lot with him as well.

5.) Nihad Djedovic (Bosnia), SF: Extremely creative and agile, with an impressive shooting stroke and the ability to step into tough situations and make an impact. He is very mature and is a great slashing forward or guard in the lane, able to receive passes confidently and dish them out as well. Some scouts have called him "NBA-like" in his poise already, but I don't know what that means exactly. He plays passable but spotty D and isn't terribly fast, but on the right team (Minnesota, OKC, CHI, DEN, etc) he could get a nice amount of open looks in a high tempo system and terrorize teams by being able to convert. You'd be drafting him for his shot, maturity, and shot creation and he'd likely deliver. My second round pick if I were Kings GM- but I'd list him more as a Shooting Guard. May not have the upside of the players listed above, but may be a little more ready to step in right away with an NBA ready attribute in his outside shot.

Hope this helps! Again, my vote is for Satoransky, Fournier or Djedovic, but will be interesting to see how this list evolves over the year. Enjoy!
 
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Since there are no elite defensive bigs in our likely draft range (4-9) I would to put a package together to try and get Houston to give us their two first rounders (range for both picks likely to be between pick 9 & 16) and try to get either Quincy Miller/Terrance Jones and one of the Kendall Marshall/Tomas Sateransky/Tony Wroten types. Not that any of those three are remotely the same player, but a taller combo guard that can help move the ball better.

As for round 2, I take a chance on a guy like Furkan Aldemir. Let him develop overseas for a few years or trade his rights later.

I know we already have too many toung bodies, but since free agents see Sacramento as a non-existant option, we can package some of these young guys up and use cap space to trade for a veteran defensive big.

Of course if we win the lottery (yeah right) then everything changes.
 
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