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Josh Howard all the way just keep him away from Brad
And Marion is too old. None of them should be around long term.
Howard because he is younger and better than Odom at this point, and if we are losing a SF might as well replace him with an all-star caliber SF.
salmons and garcia will not get it done. salmons is due for over 5 mill and garcia over 2 mill. they combine for a little over 8 mill a year. howard makes 10. salmons is the same age (if not older) than howard and he isnt even CLOSE to an allstar. same goes for garcia. he's 26. 1 year difference (big deal). bajaden, so your argument is that you dont want to get "tied" up with a player over the next 2 years thats overpaid. well we have salmons locked up for the next 2 years (he's overpaid by the way)with an option for garcia next year. and some of you were actually talking about signing garcia??? what the heck for????
you know what, i would take josh howard. he's due to make around 10 million. then i would trade him to detroit (with 2nd round pick) for hamilton and jason maxiell. GENIUS. detroit wanted to dump either rasheed, chauncey or rip. the salaries match. rip is only due for around 10 mill and maxiell is due for about 2. he's going to be a heck of a player.
Actually, I think it's time to stop making trades and start letting contracts expire. Josh Howard isn't a good fit, Lamar Odom isn't a good fit, Marion could be but he'll want too much money to stay. Let Brad and Kenny and SAR and Mikki and Artest play out their contracts and then sign wherever they want.
Then why not trade for Odom and let him expire? He'd be removing one year from KT's contract for us.
And yes, he would be a good fit.
Trading for Odom for a year or not is really pretty irrelevant. It matters next year, but that's about it. Since we're not winning anything next year anyway, it doesn't matter. What we need is a long term plan that makes sense.
That's the thing, if the Lakers included one of Farmar or a 2009 1st round pick, I can see the Kings going for it then, at that point it makes sense for the Kings. As is, it's pretty lateral, even a downgrade from standing pat.That doesn't make any sense.
Your point was to drop salary asap and trading for Odom removes $8 mil or so from next year's payroll by getting rid of KT (and actually also decreases the amount we pay this year a little - but that is pretty marginal). Of course dropping $8 mil matters.
That doesn't make any sense.
Your point was to drop salary asap and trading for Odom removes $8 mil or so from next year's payroll by getting rid of KT (and actually also decreases the amount we pay this year a little - but that is pretty marginal). Of course dropping $8 mil matters.
My point is that it matters for next year's roster, and it affects the salary cap the year after that, but dumping Kenny Thomas one year early and swapping a year of Artest for a year of Odom doesn't really impact the longterm future of this team in any significant way. And maybe it's time to stop worrying about players that other teams are attempting to cast off and instead worry about acquiring players who will be around long enough to matter.
Because that 8 'extra' million is in limbo land...we're still below the lux tax, but above the salary cap whether Kenny is on or off our payroll. So moving him, alone is pretty pointless other than for the Maloofs wallet.OK, but how does hanging on to a worthless contract for an extra year help us?
I don't get why you'd want to "stand pat" if it costs us another $8 mil next year that we don't have to spend.
Artest and KT aren't going to be around after this/next year. So why hang on to them if it costs us big $$$ next year to do so? And maybe that $8 mil will help us to sign someone next year who will help us. Having it wrapped up in KT certainly isn't helpful, now is it?
Because that 8 'extra' million is in limbo land...we're still below the lux tax, but above the salary cap whether Kenny is on or off our payroll. So moving him, alone is pretty pointless other than for the Maloofs wallet.
Because that 8 'extra' million is in limbo land...we're still below the lux tax, but above the salary cap whether Kenny is on or off our payroll. So moving him, alone is pretty pointless other than for the Maloofs wallet.
Uh, except this is wrong. Depending on what happens with SAR and his retirement and a Garcia extension, the Kings very well could be under the cap next offseason minus KT's salary.
Well then it's just a matter of which crop of free agents look better to you, 2009 or 2010. I wouldn't want to spend my cap space a year before that 2010 crop anyway. Either way the decision on where to move Artest for a year and which expiring contract to take back is small peanuts compared to the real issue which is finding a permanent replacement. I don't think Odom, Howard, or Marion is a permanent replacement so whether their contract gets shuttled through Sacramento for a year or two doesn't really matter to me.
Well then it's just a matter of which crop of free agents look better to you, 2009 or 2010. I wouldn't want to spend my cap space a year before that 2010 crop anyway. Either way the decision on where to move Artest for a year and which expiring contract to take back is small peanuts compared to the real issue which is finding a permanent replacement. I don't think Odom, Howard, or Marion is a permanent replacement so whether their contract gets shuttled through Sacramento for a year or two doesn't really matter to me.
That's the thing, if the Lakers included one of Farmar or a 2009 1st round pick, I can see the Kings going for it then, at that point it makes sense for the Kings. As is, it's pretty lateral, even a downgrade from standing pat.
Yeah, but it isn't your money.
This isn't Monopoly money, you know. We pay it with ticket prices. A few million under the cap would allow tickets to not be raised or a player to be signed at the league minimum without going over the cap.
Dollars are vital for flexibility. Pretending they aren't is foolish.
Wow, the 2010 FA's are miles above the 2009 ones.