Sure, I don't expect them to win. But c'mon, even you must admit our team is better than the one that has been showing up the past few games, where the game has been over from the start of the 3rd quarter. Against the heat it was over once they took the lead from us being up 8-4. We're not seeing the same kind of hustle that we once praised the team for, they're doing stupid things like having open rebounds slip out their hands and stuff. Shooting slumps and all I can forgive, but things like technical fouls and stuff?
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Thanks for making my argument for me, why this season looks better than last. Now we have Tyreke. We can look forward to Garcia returning. We have Omri. We got off to a hot start without our main contributor from last year. Our record will surely improve on last seasons'.
I'm just as upset as you for how bad the Kings have been playing lately, I really am. But this is not an argument about recent play, this is about comparing whole seasons. An argument that you joined in on.
I'm just as upset as you for how bad the Kings have been playing lately, I really am. But this is not an argument about recent play, this is about comparing whole seasons. An argument that you joined in on.
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thank you, i still dont think that he's a pg... but he can do some amazing things with the ball but he isnt a pg. i hope that he can learn to play without the ball, just a little bit... so we can just play him at sg and finally start to rebuild this team. we didnt do any rebuilding we just added 3 rookies and sergio. oh, and made another coaching change.
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how many new coaches have we had? we suck so we get draft picks... we havent begun to rebuild anything... we're just a young version of what we were before.. hawes sucks at center instead of miller. thompson is a scrub starting at pf instead of that scrub thomas or moore. different players, same results. instead of martin being a one man offense, evans is a one man offense... beno sucks again... sergio isnt playing much better, so basically we have no pg again this year.
same thing, no rebuild...
same thing, no rebuild...
There are several very important reasons that we have been "taking backwards steps," as you say.
1. Our first couple of months we had an "overall" very easy schedule.
2. Other teams did not know of the talent of our youngsters.
3. Our young players played with the fire and entusiasm that playing on the big stage will bring to a player.
4. Our young players are tired...very very tired. We have played these guys a bunch of minutes of a grueling NBA schedule that their bodies are absolutely not used to having to play.
5. To play great ball against elite teams, taking them to OT game after game, and coming up the loser will deflate your ego and self-confidence big time. They have to learn to play through that.
6. They are young and they still have a lot to learn.
7. They must get some rest.
None of this is in any particular order. To expect different results than what we are seeing is unrealistic. You are correct, MKF. There is nothing to blow up.
As you know, I am a Martin fan. Have been since day 1. But, I am a fan of the name on the front, 1st and foremost. We are going a different direction now. While I appreciate every bit of excitement that Kevin has brought to our team, I am fully prepared to use our best bargaining chip to continue our rebuild.
Having said all that, it really ticks me off that some fans have to disparage him (and others) while they are wearing my team's jersey. You want to trade him for a need this team has? Fine! I'm a willing partner. But, do so while appreciating what he has brought to Sacramento Kings fans. Since I want to get the best front court player I can, I know I have to trade someone of value to other teams. I hate it when fans talk as if Kevin has no value as a basketball player. We simply can now afford to give him up to get what we need more.
p.s. The team showed signed of getting tired before Martin's return.
Talk about a brain fart. Yea, your right. I was more talking towards the people who said we havent started to rebuild yet. The only player over 30 with a long term deal on this team is Noch, which Is why I mentioned him.
We have two problems - Lack of a big man and too many wings. If Petrie plays his cards right, he can fix both of them in 1 move.
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Even then I dont know how anyone can say we havent 'blown it up' already. At the start of last year we still had Salmons and Miller taking 30+ minutes each. If you dont see how we have made progress since last year your blind. Im not saying that what we see on the court has changed all that much ( meaning were still bad, still showing a lack of effort, still cant play defense ) but the roster has changed. Expectations have changed. Im pretty sure we have the second youngest team ( average age of roster ) in the league. Couldnt say that last year. We added a futue all star ( knock on wood ) and we'll have a top pick this year. Things are slowly getting better.
Everytime I get down. I look at the Thunder. Do you guys know what there record was last year? 23-59. They already have 24 wins this year. Were on pace for better than 23 wins. That team gives me hope. They were young like us, with 1 guy they knew was a keeper ( Durant ) and two other big prospects ( Green and Westbrook ). Were not that far off. We have 1 keeper ( Evans ) and a few other guys to be happy about ( Greene, Casspi, hopefully Hawes and JT ) and a big trade chip in Martin. The thunder nucleus does look better right now, but they're also 1 year ahead of us. Were slowly on our way up, I promise =]
We have two problems - Lack of a big man and too many wings. If Petrie plays his cards right, he can fix both of them in 1 move.
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Even then I dont know how anyone can say we havent 'blown it up' already. At the start of last year we still had Salmons and Miller taking 30+ minutes each. If you dont see how we have made progress since last year your blind. Im not saying that what we see on the court has changed all that much ( meaning were still bad, still showing a lack of effort, still cant play defense ) but the roster has changed. Expectations have changed. Im pretty sure we have the second youngest team ( average age of roster ) in the league. Couldnt say that last year. We added a futue all star ( knock on wood ) and we'll have a top pick this year. Things are slowly getting better.
Everytime I get down. I look at the Thunder. Do you guys know what there record was last year? 23-59. They already have 24 wins this year. Were on pace for better than 23 wins. That team gives me hope. They were young like us, with 1 guy they knew was a keeper ( Durant ) and two other big prospects ( Green and Westbrook ). Were not that far off. We have 1 keeper ( Evans ) and a few other guys to be happy about ( Greene, Casspi, hopefully Hawes and JT ) and a big trade chip in Martin. The thunder nucleus does look better right now, but they're also 1 year ahead of us. Were slowly on our way up, I promise =]
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Thanks Brick for the guy version this time around. Next time you should have hottest athletes – both guys and girls (so it would be fair to both sides, lol).
Didn’t get a chance to watch the game but I think the guys are just ready to come home. This whole trip was like a struggle. They’ve lost all the ball movement, the chemistry isn’t like it was before…My question is, why didn’t Coach W. just ease Kevin right into the line-up instead just pushing him into the position especially since we were playing on the road?
Donte Greene says their struggles are mental right now.
Didn’t get a chance to watch the game but I think the guys are just ready to come home. This whole trip was like a struggle. They’ve lost all the ball movement, the chemistry isn’t like it was before…My question is, why didn’t Coach W. just ease Kevin right into the line-up instead just pushing him into the position especially since we were playing on the road?
Donte Greene says their struggles are mental right now.
so maybe the coach should go back to do the things that worked for us like giving the youngsters the feeling that he belives in them again and rebuild there self confidence.
JT looks lost, since the seconed lakers game, Green is a starter now but he has something like good 5 minutes and then he doesn't get the ball any more, same with Casspi, who had a great start of the mont, and looks lost since K Martis back , although he shoots better in the last few games from 2 ,more then 50% (and 12 points a game) , but his long range jumper is awful latly.
He should understand that they are the future of this club, and they should gain there confidence again.
JT looks lost, since the seconed lakers game, Green is a starter now but he has something like good 5 minutes and then he doesn't get the ball any more, same with Casspi, who had a great start of the mont, and looks lost since K Martis back , although he shoots better in the last few games from 2 ,more then 50% (and 12 points a game) , but his long range jumper is awful latly.
He should understand that they are the future of this club, and they should gain there confidence again.
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