[Game] Kings @ Heat 11/4/2024 5:15 PST/8:15 EST
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The sample size is pretty large at this point though. Struggled for about half of last year, all of preseason and most of the start of this year. To me it’s a good thing if 85 percent of your misses are short, that’s easier to figure out than if he is missing all over the place. I watched a video of a shooting coach explaining that some people miss short on threes simply because they are leaning back a bit unnecessarily. It seems like something they should be able to figure out though.
So through these first 7 games i think a few thing stand out
-The ceiling of this team is unquestionably higher than the past 2 years.
-There's still a lot of learning how to play with each other going on and how to fill roles on the offensive end. When we got it rolling, oh boy is it good. But integrating a DDR takes time and while it's better than it was at the beginning of preseason, we still got a ways to go before really being that top 5 offense we need to be.
-4-3 so far with 5 road games and the dumbest ATL to TOR B-B and then back to Miami is extremely good as we do learn how to play with DDR integrated into the offense. I was sort of expecting a very slow start and the team has started to gel much quicker than I anticipated.
-Kevin Huerter matters A LOT to the spacing of this team. Especially while Keegan has forgotten how to shoot for some reason. Keon Ellis is a defensive star, but teams are still daring him to shoot and don't respect his offensive game yet. Results aside with Huerter (who's been our best shooter so far), teams have to stay tight on Huerter which opens a lot of room for DDR/Fox/Domas to do work inside the paint. So if you trade him, you better be sure we're 1. getting a spacer back or 2. You're confident enough Keegan's shot is back to take on that role again.
-Keegan has taken a leap in pretty much all facets of his game... except his shooting. He's a defensive star (don't throw that around lightly, he's a legitimate game changer defensively), he's significantly better on the glass, he's looked great attacking the rim. Not sure what's going on with the shot, but I have confidence he'll find it as one of the most successful shooters in NBA history in his first 2 seasons.
-Kings should look for an upgrade to Trey Lyles with a big wing defender. DFS/Cam Johnson/Royce O'Neale. Someone of that vein. Trey's been a great King, but man he's just been so lackluster for the last season or so and he's yet to have a good game this season. Just doesn't really fit this current roster. A better Alex Len replacement is probably needed too, but that's of less importance. I think Orlando Robinson can be someone to fill that role.
-The ceiling of this team is unquestionably higher than the past 2 years.
-There's still a lot of learning how to play with each other going on and how to fill roles on the offensive end. When we got it rolling, oh boy is it good. But integrating a DDR takes time and while it's better than it was at the beginning of preseason, we still got a ways to go before really being that top 5 offense we need to be.
-4-3 so far with 5 road games and the dumbest ATL to TOR B-B and then back to Miami is extremely good as we do learn how to play with DDR integrated into the offense. I was sort of expecting a very slow start and the team has started to gel much quicker than I anticipated.
-Kevin Huerter matters A LOT to the spacing of this team. Especially while Keegan has forgotten how to shoot for some reason. Keon Ellis is a defensive star, but teams are still daring him to shoot and don't respect his offensive game yet. Results aside with Huerter (who's been our best shooter so far), teams have to stay tight on Huerter which opens a lot of room for DDR/Fox/Domas to do work inside the paint. So if you trade him, you better be sure we're 1. getting a spacer back or 2. You're confident enough Keegan's shot is back to take on that role again.
-Keegan has taken a leap in pretty much all facets of his game... except his shooting. He's a defensive star (don't throw that around lightly, he's a legitimate game changer defensively), he's significantly better on the glass, he's looked great attacking the rim. Not sure what's going on with the shot, but I have confidence he'll find it as one of the most successful shooters in NBA history in his first 2 seasons.
-Kings should look for an upgrade to Trey Lyles with a big wing defender. DFS/Cam Johnson/Royce O'Neale. Someone of that vein. Trey's been a great King, but man he's just been so lackluster for the last season or so and he's yet to have a good game this season. Just doesn't really fit this current roster. A better Alex Len replacement is probably needed too, but that's of less importance. I think Orlando Robinson can be someone to fill that role.
If I’m not mistaken we are hard capped at the first apron so it’s going to be hard to find an upgrade for Trey from a salary matching perspective. If we had the Mcdaniels money we would have 12 ish mil to work with. This is why Kev might have to be the one going out in a deal if we decide to make one.
I think it's still pretty likely he's a great 3pt shooter and just in a bad stretch right now. He also started out last season incredibly slow, shooting 28% in his first 13 games. Finished the rest of the season at 37.4% on big volume. I'd bet most of his seasons will hover in that 37-42% range vs him being a 32-37% shooter.
I don’t know about that one. Great 3pt shooters don’t have seasons where they shoot 35.8%.
People have thrown Klay’s name around, but he had 8 consecutive seasons in the league before his 3pt % ever dipped below 40% for a year.
I’m not ready to call Keegan a streaky shooter, but it’s clear that he’s not as good of a shooter as he was in his rookie year.
With that being said, I’d still consider him a good shooter and I don’t think it’s time to panic unless we see the same results at 20 total games in.
People have thrown Klay’s name around, but he had 8 consecutive seasons in the league before his 3pt % ever dipped below 40% for a year.
I’m not ready to call Keegan a streaky shooter, but it’s clear that he’s not as good of a shooter as he was in his rookie year.
With that being said, I’d still consider him a good shooter and I don’t think it’s time to panic unless we see the same results at 20 total games in.
Maybe he really was and is a better shooter, when he doesn't have to expend quite as much effort on defense? Obviously he won't go back to a more one dimensional role like he had as a rookie.
Also, now that he is stronger, maybe he will make adjustments to his training to allow for what his priorities are at this point
Also, now that he is stronger, maybe he will make adjustments to his training to allow for what his priorities are at this point
I agree with all of this, but especially the Lyles part. I really like him, but he feels like an obvious upgrade. DFS for Lyles, Colby, and one of McLaughlin, McDermott, or Len works salary wise, with some likely draft compensation thrown in. DFS is intriguing because he can shoot well enough from the outside and is a good and versatile enough defender to guard 3-5, depending on matchups. A bench of Monk, Ellis, Carter, DFS, Len, and Robinson (who I think still contributes this year) really intrigues me, and is probably the best that we can do this season.
If Monk closes, he's got the be the LAL elite C&S version of Monk. Seen enough of DDR now that it's him and Fox last 5 minutes of the game. Not that Monk's creation still isn't valuable, but we it's significantly less important in those final minutes now and Keon is such a drastic upgrade on defense.
Keon's got to stay confident with the C&S stuff though. Can't be passing up open looks he gets. Think he's done an okay job on offense so far, but obviously is such a defensive dynamo that you still probably accept whatever he gives you on O to get him on the floor.
Keon's got to stay confident with the C&S stuff though. Can't be passing up open looks he gets. Think he's done an okay job on offense so far, but obviously is such a defensive dynamo that you still probably accept whatever he gives you on O to get him on the floor.
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