Final Thoughts from Summer League Kings Games 2013

CruzDude

Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
Bajaden and I watched game 1 on the tube and were impressed with team organization and overall play, one of the best first games of a summer league either of us had seen. A close game-1 usually is a good indicator. Not this time. I watched games 2 and 3 from great seats in each arena and concentrated often on following specific players exclusively for 4-5 possessions at a time to better understand their abilities and capabilities. These included the two draftees, McLemore and McCallum as well as Lockett, Gordon, Minnerath and Aiken. I then did the same as best possible for game 4 on the tube. Game 5 I watched the team play.

McLemore showed vast improvement in game 5 and was gradually getting his game together. Most (there are exceptions) 1-and-done lottery picks still have a good size NBA learning curve. McLemore was no different. But his improvement in game 5 was dramatic and showed clearly he is a fast learner. We'll never know what bug Cuz put in his ear just after half of game 5 but it too must have helped as he got 19 points in the 3rd quarter alone. He was getting his own shot, being aggressive, and getting his balance in order for most all his shots. He also was able to "catch-and-shoot" more than in previous games due to improved passing by the guards and took advantage. Overall I saw what the FO saw in him and why he was rated the 2nd or 3rd best pick in the draft by most folks.

McCalllum showed the same poise and ball movement in each game. His game is more polished than McLemore (but McL has a higher ceiling, both comments plagarized from bajaden in private chats). improvement came in moving style to help others get open. The fact he got 11 or 12 assists in game 5 was due almost entirely to the fact that others were moving better to get open and many more made their shots from his passes unlike in games 2, 3 and 4 when almost no one got open very often and he had to dribble more to try to find openings that just were not there. He should be PG #3 in training camp behind Vasquez and IT.

Gordon showed flashes of how he can be a dominant PF both on offense and defense. Hard to gauge his NBA level in summer league but would hope to see him, Lockett and Minnerath in Reno. Has an NBA body and 4 years of college ball and should set his NBA worthiness in the D-League.

Lockett was quiet for first couple of games but then he was the MVP of game 3. Great shooting touch and form out to and including the 3, good ball handling skills, no unnecessary passes or dumm moves and really good rebounding for a 6-5 SG and an SG is his position. Fell off a bit in game 4 then back to his good side in game 5. Not flashy, good basic floor skills, excellent chance for D-league.

Now my favorite player of the summer league was "Minne-bird". In games 1 and 2 had no clue who or what he was. Then he started pounding and banging and rebounding in game 3 along with showing his really good mid-range jumper. Good form, an excellent FT'er, fearless and agressive on both ends. Game 4 and 5 saw major improvements in Minnerath both offensive and defensive. And his comfort and form for a good 3pt shot came out showing he has more range that we thought. But what is he, a PF or SF? Kings are stacked at PF so need is SF which I think he can fill and what I think Malone sees in him. Good hops, long arms, versatile shooter and probably their summer league best rebounder. I think we see him in training camp along with Lockett and maybe Gordon and hopefully a really good Reno team comes out of this group and others.
 
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Thanks for the SL update:) It is great that the Kings have the Reno Bighorns to place these young guys with. I think it improves the chances of recognizing and retaining any NBA level talent that comes through the SL program. I still recall how Wes Matthews was on the Kings SL team a few years ago but slipped away to be signed by the Jazz.

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Since I've already given my thoughts on the Kings players, I won't go into it again. There is a player that I was very very impressed with that was released by New Orleans on wednesday to clear cap space. That player is Lance Thomas, a 6'8" SF. He's very athletic, and played both ends of the floor extremely well. Its only summer league, but he did what he was susposed to do. He stood out! He played solid defense, and shot the ball well. He also rebounded well. Nothing spectacular, just very solid. Hopefully the Kings noticed him as well.
 
During summer league I saw pics of Vivek wearing a dark shirt with the number "3" on the sleeve. Was that in support of Ray McCallum or is it something else?
 
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So far the summer league team is a run and shoot team. McCallum in the games I saw spends too much time with the ball in his hands. Against GS he had 23 points and one assist. IT already has that set of skills. McLemore appears lost on offense. Few other things to get enthused about. Except for the two above I don't see anyone else making the team.
 
The reason McCallum had to dribble so much was that no one was getting open in games 2-3-4 and he had no choice. He moved the ball everywhere but the others were not moving to creat open shots. In game-4 they finally figured it out, especially McLemore, and McCallum had 11 or 12 assists. Could have had 16+ if others made more shots.

He'll do just fine with real NBA players and their much better abilities to get open.
 
Cruz,
You make a good point that some players will look much better with an experienced supporting cast. The two guys that start with Mc will be around, but I don't have much faith in the other SL players that haven't been Kings yet.
 
bajaden and I tend to agree however, having Reno to themselves now could mean some of the "bubble" players will get a second chance. After watching the action at Summer league my view is that Minnerath, Lockett, Gordon and Aiken may be such players. Personally I like Minnerath maybe even at SF: he can shoot well out to 3-pt range, moves well, a decent defender and fearless rebounder. A very good role player. Remember, Coach Malone gave him a call minutes after the draft ended to ask him to be on their Summer League team so he has that small "in".
 
Summer League, tournament style or 5-6 scheduled games? Still up for debate, which format do you like? Tournament style benefits 4 of the 22 teams who make it to the semi-finals and get 2 extra games in the summer. Therefore, 18 teams get two less games with which to evaluate FA talent and their own draft choices. Not a bebefit for those 18 teams for sure and if David Stern's legacy is to benefit all the teams and make the playing firld more level, he gets them back to all teams playing the same number of games in summer league. What do you think?
 
Is there no way to do tournament style and still insure everyone gets the same games? Whether that means throwing everyone into a loser bracket or playing out for 21st place I am sure it is doable if they want to keep the format.
 
I'm a fan of no tournament, just 5 set games for all teams. It's easier to know when your team will be playing and gives you a set schedule for the week. The argument that the playoffs gives the guys something to play for is a wash to me because all of these guys are already playing to impress pro teams. There's enough on the line that we can do without the added playoffs.
 
I'm a fan of no tournament, just 5 set games for all teams. It's easier to know when your team will be playing and gives you a set schedule for the week. The argument that the playoffs gives the guys something to play for is a wash to me because all of these guys are already playing to impress pro teams. There's enough on the line that we can do without the added playoffs.

I totally agree. The whole purpose of summer league is defeated IMHO if it becomes more about winning and less about evaluating potential players.
 
I totally agree. The whole purpose of summer league is defeated IMHO if it becomes more about winning and less about evaluating potential players.

On the contrary. Incentive of winning leads to players realizing they need to play team ball to get that W, rather than try to be like Kobe and try to win one on five.
In team ball you can then evaluate players more thoroughly within the context of a team. Too often you see guys just trying to do it all by themselves to try to land that one spot.
 
On the contrary. Incentive of winning leads to players realizing they need to play team ball to get that W, rather than try to be like Kobe and try to win one on five.
In team ball you can then evaluate players more thoroughly within the context of a team. Too often you see guys just trying to do it all by themselves to try to land that one spot.


Yeah but, of what possible relevance is this "tournament" going to be to them? They're all out there playing for their basketball lives, trying desperately to catch somebody's eye. Nobody there is going to set that aside to win a tournament for his thrown together summer league team that he has known for 2 weeks and won't ever be a part of in a few days.

Now maybe if they incentivized it with a little $$...
 
On the contrary. Incentive of winning leads to players realizing they need to play team ball to get that W, rather than try to be like Kobe and try to win one on five.
In team ball you can then evaluate players more thoroughly within the context of a team. Too often you see guys just trying to do it all by themselves to try to land that one spot.

Nope. We're gonna have to agree to disagree.

The "incentive to win" can become so prevalent that you only see the players who are doing the best. If this were the case with the Kings this year, for example, we would never have seen McLemore come alive as he would have been relegated to the end of the bench to provide the team with a better chance to win.
 
Yeah but, of what possible relevance is this "tournament" going to be to them? They're all out there playing for their basketball lives, trying desperately to catch somebody's eye. Nobody there is going to set that aside to win a tournament for his thrown together summer league team that he has known for 2 weeks and won't ever be a part of in a few days.

Now maybe if they incentivized it with a little $$...

I don't know, maybe because it could hurt them? If the assistant coaches are out there asking you to run a play and you go out and **** on their parade by trying to be too aggressive individually and pick-up an on offensive foul, I don't see how that could benefit them.

Now, the key here is if some of these players strike a balance between dominating through team play, maybe they would be kept in higher regards than simply doing it all by yourself and getting your 25 pts.
 
Not a fan of the tournament. Its not good for people who want to come to LV for summer league either, if they are coming to see their team. You can't really plan very well if you don't know how many games, what days and times your team is going to play. For what summer league is supposed to accomplish I don't see how it helps teams that get only the minimum number of days.
 
Not a fan of the tournament. Its not good for people who want to come to LV for summer league either, if they are coming to see their team. You can't really plan very well if you don't know how many games, what days and times your team is going to play. For what summer league is supposed to accomplish I don't see how it helps teams that get only the minimum number of days.

The summer league is a PRACTICE session for teams to evaluate players, especially those on the "bubble" under NBA like conditions. Having the 5 or even 6 games pre-selected lets everyone know what to expect and when: players, coaches, front office and fans alike. What teams play each other is basically irrelevant. Vegas is a Laker town but had a good run as a Kings town from 1998 to about 2005.

The tournament is a distraction I Think to the teaching and learning process for both the assistant coaches and the draftees and bubble players trying to showcase their basic talents.
 
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