Draft position thread

fnordius said:
I bet that Washington fans are ticked.
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I don't think so. Cleveland took down the Wizards three years in a row in the playoffs and every one of those series was heated. There's almost as much bad blood there as there is with us and the Lakers. Any day they can beat the Cavs is a good day, even if it slightly impacts their lottery chances. Plus it's a big deal for them to have their whole team back for the first time this season and take down the best team in the league. That's hope for next year. Their situation is a lot different than ours. If Gilbert isn't their franchise player after the 100 million dollars he just got, that team is sunk big time. The lottery is really more of a bonus for them than a necessity.
 
Hallama said:
Haha, awesome. Thanks.

Regarding tie-breakers, I'm pretty sure they are decided by a coin flip and not head to head, etc.

So those numbers could be reduced by one with an "*" denoting coin flippage. ;)
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In case of a tie, the teams get an average of the combined combinations. If the average comes out with a uneven number the final combination is decided by a coin flip.

So, if Wash & Sac tie for worst record. The total combinations of first & second place are added together and divided by 2. (250+199)/2=224 each and a coin flip to decide the final combination.)
 
Which also means it decides the draft order after the lottery, no?

So if Washington wins the flip, they will pick one in front of the Kings if the Kings don't jump them in the lotto.

I think the Warriors lost to the Bulls in a similar situation years back (the Yao, Jason Williams draft), which drafting #3 (Dunleavy) was a huge step down. Obviously, Williams career ended tragically. Those teams were tied but Chicago won the flip, iirc.

**now that I think about it, draft order would only come into play outside of the top 3, but it could be the difference between pick 4 or 5.
 
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cigaM Numbers:

Minnesota: 2 (Den, @LAC, @GS, Pho, @Dal, Sac)
Oklahoma City: 3 (Ind, SA, @Den, Cha, @Mil, @Por, @LAC)
Memphis: 3 (@Mil, Por, @Orl, Phx, @LAL, @Phx, Atl)
Washington: 6 (Mia, @Cle, @Tor, Tor, @Bos)
LA Clippers: 6 (@Den, @LAL, Min, Sac, Por, @Utah, OKC)
Kings Games Remaining: GS, LAL, Hou, @LAC, SA, @Den, @Min
Games in red are tomorrow.
Kings "Worst" Possible Pre-Lottery Finish: 6th
 
VF21 said:
Excuse the incredibly stupid question, but what are "cigaM Numbers"?
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Here in this thread it's the reverse Magic Number, VF. You hear the "Magic Number" a lot in baseball as the season is getting near conclusion. It's number used to indicate how close a front-running team is to clinching a playoff spot. It represents the total of additional wins by the front-running team or additional losses by the rival team after which it is mathematically impossible for the rival team to capture the title in the remaining games.
 
"Cigam numbers" are like "magic numbers" in reverse, instead of countdowns of wins and losses to a playoff position, they are Ws and Ls relative to the #1 spot. Any combination of Sac losses and Minnesota wins which = 2, for example, will eliminate Minnesota as a competitor for #1 anymore.

Tonight Memphis joins OKC and Minnesota as teams which no longer make my list.

1. Sac 16-59 .213
2. Was 18-59 .234
3. LAC 18-57 .240
rest = 21+ wosses
 
fnordius said:
And Clips are linning by a wide margin, but Memphis became even more irrelevant, which was okay. Standings, after Clips officially lin:

1. Sac 16-59 .213
2. Was 18-60 .231
3. LAC 18-58 .237
rest: 21+ wosses
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This is increasingly looking like its going right down to the wire. We might have to pull out a closing loss to Minnesota to even have a shot, and somebody is probably going to have to kneecap a couple of our players before that game because you know Natt will coach it all out desperate for the victory.

Tommorow is a tough tough game for us. It would be a huge step forward, but on our homecourt, and with revenge in mind after the OT loss?
 
cigaM Numbers:

Minnesota: 2 (Den, @LAC, @GS, Pho, @Dal, Sac)
Memphis: 2 (Por, @Orl, Phx, @LAL, @Phx, Atl)
Oklahoma City: 3 (Ind, SA, @Den, Cha, @Mil, @Por, @LAC)
Washington: 6 (@Cle, @Tor, Tor, @Bos)
LA Clippers: 6 (@LAL, Min, Sac, Por, @Utah, OKC)
Kings Games Remaining: GS, LAL, Hou, @LAC, SA, @Den, @Min
Games in red are tomorrow.
Kings "Worst" Possible Pre-Lottery Finish: 6th

If things go right, we can knock Minnesota off of the list tomorrow...
 
Bricklayer said:
This is increasingly looking like its going right down to the wire. We might have to pull out a closing loss to Minnesota to even have a shot...
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Looking at the schedules, I see only one plausible woss on Washington's horizon, the home game against Toronto, which is far from a sure thing. Likewise, for LAC, they have some way too tough games, some just a bit too tough games (OKC, Minn), and one game they might be expected to win - the one against the Kings.

OKC will win some more games, so we can count on being in the top 3 as long as we avoid 22 wins, which should be extremely easy. But yes, within the top 3, right down to the wire. To be sure and hang on to #1, we can only afford two wosses at most, neither of which can be against LAC.
 
fnordius said:
Looking at the schedules, I see only one plausible woss on Washington's horizon, the home game against Toronto, which is far from a sure thing.
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It's not like Toronto's been on fire lately. If Arenas plays either home or away against Toronto, I'd think the Wiz are likely to win.
 
SacKings7 said:
I'm assuming you're being sarcastic?? They're the hottest team in the league right now and have won 6 or 7 in a row
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Nope, I'm just stuck in two weeks ago when they had lost 9 of their last 10. I took them off of my radar entirely about then and slept through their big win streak. Oops.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
Nope, I'm just stuck in two weeks ago when they had lost 9 of their last 10. I took them off of my radar entirely about then and slept through their big win streak. Oops.
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The most amazing thing about it all is that they're still alive in the playoff hunt. The bottom of the Eastern Conference's playoff teams is just so awful, it's unbelievable.
 
cigaM Numbers:

Minnesota: 1 (@LAC, @GS, Pho, @Dal, Sac)
Memphis: 1 (Por, @Orl, Phx, @LAL, @Phx, Atl)
Oklahoma City: 2 (SA, @Den, Cha, @Mil, @Por, @LAC)
Washington: 5 (@Cle, @Tor, Tor, @Bos)
LA Clippers: 5 (Min, Sac, Por, @Utah, OKC)
Kings Games Remaining: LAL, Hou, @LAC, SA, @Den, @Min
Games in red are Tuesday (no games tomorrow).
Kings "Worst" Possible Pre-Lottery Finish: 6th
 
While losing to a shorthanded, undersized, and young team like the Warriors last night just sucks, it will go a looooong way toward a better chance at the top 2 picks.

Tanking is hard on fans, but if you're going to tank, do it 110%. Hopefully next season will be a little better and fans won't have to rely on losses like this year. I can handle it for one season if it's done right. :)
 
KF8 said:
1. Kings 16-60
2. Wizards 18-60
3. Clippers 18-59
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Since there are only 8 days left of the season, it seems like a good time to project those totals a little bit into the future. Projected winners are in bold.

Tuesday, April 7:
LAL @ Kings
Minn @ LAC

1. Kings 16-61
2./3. LAC/Was 18-60

Wednesday, April 8:
Washington @ Cleveland

1. Kings 16-61
2. Was 18-61
3. LAC 18-60

Thursday, April 9:
Houston @ Kings

1. Kings 16-62
2. Was 18-61
3. LAC 18-60

That's where things will probably stand on Friday when we play the Clippers. If we wose that one, we'll be at 17-62 and LAC will be at 18-61, a very uncomfortable situation with a (Kings) game at Minny still coming up. If we manage to lin it, odds are that Sac will come in first, and LAC will be trying to out-tank Washington in hopes of a tie for 2nd/3rd.

Let's get that lin!
 
fnordius said:
Since there are only 8 days left of the season, it seems like a good time to project those totals a little bit into the future. Projected winners are in bold.

Tuesday, April 7:
LAL @ Kings
Minn @ LAC

1. Kings 16-61
2./3. LAC/Was 18-60

Wednesday, April 8:
Washington @ Cleveland

1. Kings 16-61
2. Was 18-61
3. LAC 18-60

Thursday, April 9:
Houston @ Kings

1. Kings 16-62
2. Was 18-61
3. LAC 18-60

That's where things will probably stand on Friday when we play the Clippers. If we wose that one, we'll be at 17-62 and LAC will be at 18-61, a very uncomfortable situation with a (Kings) game at Minny still coming up. If we manage to lin it, odds are that Sac will come in first, and LAC will be trying to out-tank Washington in hopes of a tie for 2nd/3rd.

Let's get that lin!
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Of the 3 teams Washington has the hardest schedule and the least amount of games left. Washington has Cavaliers, Raptors 2 times, and Celtics coming up. I could see them easily going 0-4. Lets pray they win at least one vs Raps.
 
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