Draft Combine Measurements !!!!
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I never had any use for Aldrich. I think he's been completely overrated all season. But that said, his combine numbers are the nail in the coffin as far as me and at all wanting him in a Kings uniform.
I'm not sure I have any use for Hassan Whiteside either, but his combine numbers are at least in line with what was expected.
Nearly 6'11" without shoes, nearly 7' in them with a 7'7" wingspan and 9'5" reach at 227 lbs. And I knew it would be low but a slightly surprising body fat of 5.5% (and his frame) suggest it would certainly be possible to add weight going forward.
Greg Monroe tested out well. Slightly taller but with a shorter reach and wingspan than Cousins, his weight is still a bit low (for a potential center) at 246 lbs but he certainly good enough for the PF spot. I'd only be interested if he could actually man the five spot and I'm not sure he can add too much more weight with his frame.
Peter_Gibbons
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Yeah I mean there are the Donte Greenes and then there are the Vince Carters. So he has a decent height. Won't really be a huge mismatch either way.
Peter_Gibbons
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I actually like Hassan Whiteside a lot. By his height makes him a legit 7 footer (by NBA standards) and the wingspan is insane. He needs to gain a lot of weight but his athleticism is like Dwight Howard.
Peter_Gibbons
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Yup, he is officially crossed off the possible list for #5 pick.... not that I liked him to begin with.
rainmaker
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290lbs at 16% bodyfat means he's in good shape. 290lbs at 10%-12% would be a borderline freak of nature. Weight on a scale means nothing. Body composition is much more important.
NoBonus
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Monroe was mediocre measurement wise as well...
Peter_Gibbons
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Yeah, I'm liking Hassan more after the measurements.
Comparing him to Dwight Howard:
Hassan Whiteside
-6'10.5" w/o shoes
-227 lbs
-9'5" standing reach
-7'7" wingspan
Dwight Howard
-6'9" w/o shoes
-240 lbs
-9'3.5" standing reach
-7'4.5" wingspan
I'd wager he's MORE athletic than Dwight Howard in terms of run/jump ability.
And during the pre-draft combine Howard measured 6'9 w/o shoes and 240 lbs. That's only 13lbs more than Whiteside, but he was also an inch and half shorter and nearly 3 years younger than Whiteside is now.
And more importantly, you could see that Howard had a frame with massive potential to add weight and get stronger. I don't think Whiteside will ever top 245-250.
I'm intrigued, but far from sold on the guy. Big men who come into the league skinny and lacking strength rarely develop into post players of any consequence. I think best case for him is Marcus Camby and I'm not sure he has the basketball IQ to ever get that far.
hammystyle
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I think we may very well have a use for Whiteside if he interviews well and works out well against other players. Couldn't be more spot on to the skillset we need right now, and if you feel comfortable he's got a good attitude and can improve then he could be the guy.
Additionally, I think Monroe actually has an very good frame to add weight. He's got big broad shoulders but he's a young sophomore who hasn't filled out yet.
Vlade4GM
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Okafor was/is much more athletic and strong than Aldrich, the comparison is not valid.
I just don't agree that a weakside shotblocker is what the Kings need. I know many people have been wanting a Camby/Chandler/Thabeet type player and Whiteside could be that but to me the biggest thing the Kings lack is a big man who can hold position and stop other team's bigs from scoring in the post. I love shotblocking and the idea of someone to challenge/block/alter shots but Whiteside was pushed around and targeted on the NCAA level. He'd be a complete liability as a man-on-man defender and his weakside help wouldn't make up for that. Not to mention he can't score in the post and generally looks a step slow or out of place on offense.
Again, I'm intrigued but far from sold.
Vlade4GM
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His reach is also affected by his shoe thickness I believe. So his reach is really about 9'2.5 if you give him the standard 1.25 inch shoe thickness. Not a great measurement for a C that needs to be a high quality post defender to justify a 5th pick. It's really that coupled with his low weight that is worrisome.
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roasthawg
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That's what everyone said last year when I was comparing Reke to Wade upside-wise... production wise Aldrich played a lot like Okafor did in college. Aldrich is still my most realistic hope at pick #5 if Cousins is gone.
ElRey
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2.25inch?! is this guy wearing stripper shoes or something ??!
We can scratch Aldrich off the list. Looks like it's going to be Johnson for our pick if Cousins is not available.
hammystyle
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Its not great but its playable at C.
Peter_Gibbons
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Also I'm tried of our team getting bullied by teams with real tall 7'+ front lines. The lakers' success weighs a lot on their bigs getting rebs and causing mismatches. They regularly glab rebs away from our bigs when they play. Its time for us to have height advantage on everyone.
=LarryLegend=
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John Wall is going to have a Nate Robinson 43" plus vert. crazy
ElRey
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when those numbers come out?
Vlade4GM
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How were you proven right that Evans has Wade upside? And I don't see the connection anyway.
College production does not = NBA production. I think he'll probably be a good rebounder and maybe a solid post defender still, but if we're going to take a center that doesn't add much offensively, he better have the upside to be a damn good post defender.
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Peter_Gibbons
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Vlade4GM
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You want "playable" from a guy that offers little scoring ability?
=LarryLegend=
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