Deal with Houston for Asik?

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Do they have the cap space to sign D12? If not maybe we can absorb the contracts of some players, we need a sf but i would not mind picking up Asik!


Brian Windhorst: Asik has no intention of backing up or playing along side Dwight Howard
 
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it appears we aren't going to do anything that makes sense. I am quickly becoming discouraged by recent events. 2 days ago I was dreaming of an Evans maclemore iggy 1.2.3. now we are talking to collison? an barely a mention of a vet SF for a year or 2 that can shoot. so no young stud no old stud. just a vet that can shoot. I liked the idea of Wright with Evans here. With Evans gone I wanted a top 5-10 SF in the league
 
it appears we aren't going to do anything that makes sense. I am quickly becoming discouraged by recent events. 2 days ago I was dreaming of an Evans maclemore iggy 1.2.3. now we are talking to collison? an barely a mention of a vet SF for a year or 2 that can shoot. so no young stud no old stud. just a vet that can shoot. I liked the idea of Wright with Evans here. With Evans gone I wanted a top 5-10 SF in the league

oh jesus...stop it already

First off, we aren't "talking" to Collison, but rather a rumor that we are one of 863 teams that are interested in him.

Iggy used as a pawn and had no intention of coming here and the Reke situation has been discussed inside out already. It was either match $11 mil, or he goes to the Pelicans. FO didn't thing he was worth it, so we move on.
 
Do they have the cap space to sign D12? If not maybe we can absorb the contracts of some players, we need a sf but i would not mind picking up Asik!


Brian Windhorst: Asik has no intention of backing up or playing along side Dwight Howard

Salmons, Hayes, Patterson...one of those + Isaiah
or Thornton

We can easily make it happen. But, please...I don't want Lin.
 
Salmons, Hayes, Patterson...one of those + Isaiah
or Thornton

We can easily make it happen. But, please...I don't want Lin.



Agreed! I feel Lin is very overrated....Houston will be a western contender now that OKC has gone down a notch with losing Martin. Just have to wait and see how Howards back is feeling this next season.
 
Do they have the cap space to sign D12? If not maybe we can absorb the contracts of some players, we need a sf but i would not mind picking up Asik!


Brian Windhorst: Asik has no intention of backing up or playing along side Dwight Howard

That was raised by somebody else yesterday, and yep, its a damn good idea. Wherever Dwight went it was going to set bowling pins falling, and if we're going to go with all shooters and passers in the backcourt, we badly need a big hombre next to Cousins to help us clean up inside. Asik is a impact player at what he does.
 
Asik brings some of what we need and is a no hassle roll player. A trade would be nice if we can get them to take some junk but as long as we retain enough cap space to sign an impact guy at the SF (assuming we can get one) then I'm good with it.
 
looks like pelicans are going after him too trying to package a deal around ryan anderson. at first i thought their FO was stupid for going after tyreke with holiday and gordon already but if their plans pan out a team of asik/davis/aminu/gordon/holiday with tyreke as sixth man doesnt look too shabby. also the backcourt might not be too crowded if gordon gets hurt or is shipped out at trade deadline.
 
looks like pelicans are going after him too trying to package a deal around ryan anderson. at first i thought their FO was stupid for going after tyreke with holiday and gordon already but if their plans pan out a team of asik/davis/aminu/gordon/holiday with tyreke as sixth man doesnt look too shabby. also the backcourt might not be too crowded if gordon gets hurt or is shipped out at trade deadline.

Doesn't look too shabby = not only a playoff team, but a dangerous one.

Then there's us. Who helped them get there.
 
It's nice when you have the assets to make moves for a player like Asik though. Vasquez & Anderson have positive value and could be moved. Probably the biggest thing that PDA has stacked against him is that he doesn't have intriguing pieces to move around. Nobody wants Jimmer or Hayes or Outlaw.
 
It's nice when you have the assets to make moves for a player like Asik though. Vasquez & Anderson have positive value and could be moved. Probably the biggest thing that PDA has stacked against him is that he doesn't have intriguing pieces to move around. Nobody wants Jimmer or Hayes or Outlaw.

But someone wanted Tyreke. Thornton and IT can also be seen as assets. Thompson or ppat are tradeable as well as salmons, as an ender. No one expects us to get asik or anyone else of value for the scrubs you listed. Unless Petrie gets hired somewhere else.
 
Doesn't look too shabby = not only a playoff team, but a dangerous one.

Then there's us. Who helped them get there.
You're whole attitude about this really is making me hope Evans fails miserably. You are right. Tyreke is the best thing that ever happened to the kings and now we will be in eternal basketball he'll because our new FO just didn't get it.
 
absolutely on board with getting Asik, especially since GS will keep Bogut. latest news on twitter indicate that NO has no intention of offering Anderson for him either, so I don't know what other team might be looking to acquire him. no team has greater need for a guy like him and the team's with caproom are also getting fewer by the minute.

sidenote, since it was discussed in the other thread about him: it appears that the way his contract is structured, the cap hit is 8.3M a year, but the actual dollar amount has his salary escalating. so, even though it won't be reflected in the cap situation, he'd be a bit more expensive to acquire for our owner.
 
You're whole attitude about this really is making me hope Evans fails miserably. You are right. Tyreke is the best thing that ever happened to the kings and now we will be in eternal basketball he'll because our new FO just didn't get it.


Says more about you than it does about him. And well done on the hyperbole, shows how weak your argument is. Fact is not resigning Tyreke is a hugely risky move which could bite us in the a**. That is putting it very conservately. The problem lies with the people who don't know what Tyreke already is as a 23 year old, probably because they only watch Kings games, and not with those that recognise this as a very dubious move (again, I'm putting it nicely). But then again, no amount of evidence or cold hard facts are going to convince you people that Tyreke has improved or that he has all-star potential if he rounds out his game. But yeah, you're right, if he's not a superstar then we shouldn't keep him... :rolleyes:
 
absolutely on board with getting Asik, especially since GS will keep Bogut. latest news on twitter indicate that NO has no intention of offering Anderson for him either, so I don't know what other team might be looking to acquire him. no team has greater need for a guy like him and the team's with caproom are also getting fewer by the minute.

sidenote, since it was discussed in the other thread about him: it appears that the way his contract is structured, the cap hit is 8.3M a year, but the actual dollar amount has his salary escalating. so, even though it won't be reflected in the cap situation, he'd be a bit more expensive to acquire for our owner.

Pelicans would be bigger idiots than the Kings (no re-signing Tyreke) if they are not willing to trade Anderson for Asik! It's a trade that makes so much sense for both teams. With Asik, Hornets are play off bound and one of the best young up and coming teams! If they get Asik, it's an A+ offseason from them.

We are not and will never be interested in Asik. We love our shooters. Rumour has it we are asking Raef LaFrentz to come out of retirement to be Cousins'. Side kick!
 
Says more about you than it does about him. And well done on the hyperbole, shows how weak your argument is. Fact is not resigning Tyreke is a hugely risky move which could bite us in the a**. That is putting it very conservately. The problem lies with the people who don't know what Tyreke already is as a 23 year old, probably because they only watch Kings games, and not with those that recognise this as a very dubious move (again, I'm putting it nicely). But then again, no amount of evidence or cold hard facts are going to convince you people that Tyreke has improved or that he has all-star potential if he rounds out his game. But yeah, you're right, if he's not a superstar then we shouldn't keep him... :rolleyes:
I never once said that Tyreke was a bad player or does not have the potential to be an all star. I'm just tired of people shoving it down our throats like it's a fact already which its not. Bottom line Tyreke could very well be an amazing player, but Cousins might very well be one as well. I personally don't feel their games mesh together because they both need the paint to be successful, and I would chooses Cousins
 
If we get Asik itll take some of the pain away from losing Reke. Because at least when Vasquez gets beat we will have The Turkish Terminator behind him too swat fools out of the lane.

Asik is a top 3 defending big man in the league IMO. And many other people say the same thing on other bball forums.
 
PDA get this man! Use the capspace. He already stated he doesn't want to go back to Houston, so it shouldn't be too difficult. We can give up JT/Chuck Hayes, or even Thornton (would be great off the bench for them).
 
Everyone flood viveks twitter too get Asik! @vivek is his handle.. Asik/Cousins would be dominant. Cousins would abuse PFs.

Asik also rocks a Semi Mullet.... if that helps this arguement. pure awesomeness.
 
be nice if we could get Deng and Asik for Thornton,Jimmer,Hayes, ppat or jt

the Rockets are very, very unlikely to want to take on much salary, especially longterm and fairly useless salary like that of Jimmer, Thornton or Hayes. now, I'm not saying that Thornton is useless, but he'd be backing up Harden at a fairly steep price and that's not likely to be much of a success. our best shot is making this a straight salary dump. absorb Asik with our capspace and hope they don't demand Lin be part of this to. although I still might not balk, if they insist on dumping Lin.
 
Yeah, I'd only see the Rockets doing something like Asik for Patterson (giving them a stretch 4, but cheaper than Ryan Anderson) and IT, especially if they also ship out Lin.
 
the Rockets are very, very unlikely to want to take on much salary, especially longterm and fairly useless salary like that of Jimmer, Thornton or Hayes. now, I'm not saying that Thornton is useless, but he'd be backing up Harden at a fairly steep price and that's not likely to be much of a success. our best shot is making this a straight salary dump. absorb Asik with our capspace and hope they don't demand Lin be part of this to. although I still might not balk, if they insist on dumping Lin.

I think Thornton would be used more for Deng with capspace and possibly PP would be for Asik
 
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