Chris Paul demanding trade?

[SacKings7]

Apparently he wants to follow in LeBron's footsteps and play with another superstar or 2. These superteams are going to run the NBA into the ground, and could possibly even cause smaller market franchises to fold. As much as I love Wade, I can no longer cheer for him to win, except against the Lakers. I love Paul too, and I hope he stays in New Orleans.

I like that Jordan and Magic spoke out about this whole issue, even though they never really had a negative spin on it. The whole point of being the best is beating the best. LeBron and Co. seem to have said if ya can't beat em, join em

According to a source with knowledge of his plan, Chris Paul has requested that the Hornets trade him to the Knicks, Magic or Lakers before the season begins.

"He wants out," the source told Ken Berger of CBS Sports. "He wants to play with another superstar. He wants to follow LeBron's model of teaming up with other great players."

NBA sources say that member of Paul's camp told them recently, "He's not going to start the season in New Orleans."

The Hornets will try to persuade Paul to remain based on the team's new direction.

"Paul won't go public with his trade request -- if he did, he'd be subject to a fine under NBA rules -- but those with knowledge of his plans believe his desire to pair up with another superstar (or two) has gained too much momentum to stop," writes Berger.

The Knicks are preparing to make an attractive offer to acquire a superstar talent via trade.

"According to sources familiar with the Knicks' strategy," writes Berger, "part of the reason for orchestrating the sign-and-trade for David Lee -- which yielded young talents Anthony Randolph and Kelenna Azubuike from Golden State -- was to stock the roster with attractive assets that could be used to acquire such marquee players if the opportunities presented themselves."



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[annihilator_33]

not surprised that he wants to be traded but wow........lebron has really caused a domino effect

 

[Bricklayer]

Fundamentally bad for the league, but if the seriousness of the situation is brought home by these things and results in some sort of franchise player tag or somesuch being slipped into the new CBA, then it will help in the log run.

The real problem until that happens is that the LeBron maneuver is liekthe first stone of the avalanche. Every additional star who takes these routes puts additional pressure on the ones that remain to do it too to have any chance, and it just spreads like a disease.

 

[itzcoatl]

It seems like Chris Paul has been unhappy in NO for some time now. Paul and Dwight would be a killer combo. Nonetheless, these super-teams are becoming quite irritating. IMO, they are a sign of poor sportsmanship.

On the other hand, wherever he ends up will just be one more team for Tyreke and Demarcus to destroy.

 

[JJ22L]

This is somewhat pathetic.

When I see an adversary that's stronger, faster or smarter than me I work my *** off to make myself better than them. It's 100x more satisfying conquering the enemy than claiming subservience, which is effectively what Lebron and now Paul did/are trying to do.

There are so many great players in the past that stuck with their team through thick and thin and bettered themselves to prove their worth to team and city. I can name at least five superstars off of the top of my head, from the late 90's early 2000's that tried to build their own legacy as opposed to catching the coattails of someone else's.

It's not as if Lebron, Bosh and Paul are in their 30's and waiting for a last grasp at a title. I have no qualms with what Malone and Peyton did with the Lakers. They attempted to be the best.

This is by no means am end all for me in regard to abandoning the NBA....but come on players. You are role models. Have some self respect. Be your own "man."

/rant

 

[vikinginferno]

Well at least as long as he doesn't go to the Lakers (which is impossible), he would go to the EC... But I am still doubtful that a trade is going to happen before the season.

 

[Dreadnought]

This is somewhat pathetic.

When I see an adversary that's stronger, faster or smarter than me I work my *** off to make myself better than them. It's 100x more satisfying conquering the enemy than claiming subservience, which is effectively what Lebron and now Paul did/are trying to do.

/rant

I am curious as to what kind of life situation you have been put in where you've seen an "adversary that's stronger, faster or smarter" than you, and then you received the opportunity to make yourself better than them and then "conquered" them. I guess the NBA has some similar characteristics to the everyday work place.

 

[Merdiesel]

The NBA has become such a selfish league over the past 10 years.

He wants to go to Lakers or the Magic?... I say ship his cry baby *** to Minnesota.

 

[Chupacabra]

This kind of behavior wont continue for THAT long. Its an unpopular move to just about every fan of basketball. The new cba is coming up and you can bet that Stern will have something to say about it. The way i see it, if youre being paid millions of dollars to play basketball you should have no problem with anything. Not the city. Not the teammates. Not the coach. Be a professional, enjoy the millions of dollars, and play basketball.

 

[BMiller52]

I read in some yahoo article by Adrian Wojnarowski that this is all pretty much because of World Wide Wes, and also Maverick Carter. These guys all decided they wanted to make these super teams back around 2008 summer olympics. I have to say though that a CP3/Amare pick n roll or CP3/Dwight pick n roll would be pretty devastating. But I think in the long run these teams will get beat by Durant and OKC or us with Reke and DMC.

 

[LWP777]

The NBA has become such a selfish league over the past 10 years.

He wants to go to Lakers or the Magic?... I say ship his cry baby *** to Minnesota.

This would be fabulous. What would that give Minnesota, 6 PG's??

 

[Kingstime]

Hey screw it let these dudes beat us each other in the East, it will make it easier for us to get back into the thick of things out west.

Also I would like to know how this is bad for the league? Players have been making trade demands to get into better situations for years who are we to judge how these guys want to play out their careers. This just points out the fundamental flaw in todays NBA, too many teams for such little talent. In the 80's and 90's a duo like CP3/Howard or a the Miami Trinity would be common place. Now I'm not saying its really the same exact situation but it's not that bad of a thing for fans I see.

We as Kings fans shouldn't feel that affected by this as we are a couple years away from even having to worry about taking on one of these teams when everything is on the line anyways. I think that when these guys are ready to take on any of em, they will be able to match them all win for win

 

[Kingster]

It's very corrosive for the league. To me it's a loser's mentallity. And a follower's mentallity. And it's pathetic. Hey, if you can't win, just find a team that can. Party on, right?:

 

[pdxKingsFan]

There were 20 teams in the 80s and 30 now. The 90s were a pretty awful time in my book. If the NBA wants super teams they never should have expanded.

 

[Boogie-havoc]

The second the Knicks (godwilling) or the Heat start packing championships, and have a huge rivalry and show great basketball people will forget all this stuff..

I don't see anything bad with it honestly, everyone should do w/e he sees right..

I hope you guys ain't gonna be hatin on my Knicks if we get CP3/Melo/Stat ye???

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I already hate your Knicks.

 

[annihilator_33]

The second the Knicks (godwilling) or the Heat start packing championships, and have a huge rivalry and show great basketball people will forget all this stuff..

I don't see anything bad with it honestly, everyone should do w/e he sees right..

I hope you guys ain't gonna be hatin on my Knicks if we get CP3/Melo/Stat ye???

I've always hated the knicks because of one player: John Starks

 

[Arco Arena]

New Orleans will package Okafor/Paul and will probably want Gallinari, Randolph, Curry/Misc Expiring contracts.


That would bloat NY's salary to the point where they couldn't sign a max in 2011-2012... aka no Melo

 

[hrdboild]

Even without Melo an Amare/Okafor/Paul lineup and scrubs is about 1000x better than what they threw out there last year, or for the last decade really.

 

[Superman]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Chris-Paul-LeBron-James-turning-NBA-into-league-of-quitters

I'll just say this: I don't like when sports stars demand trades, but I'm really opposed to this increasing sentiment against players who want to play on good teams.

 

[kennadog]

I think the fans have a right to have negative sentiments about it. If the league turns into a very few, loaded super teams, that just makes the rest of the teams the Washington Generals, that will be no fun to watch. You'd just have teams that have absolutely no chance of a championship and maybe no hope to ever get out of the first round. If it were to become clear that Sacramento was never going to be able to hang onto or lure a super star and were condemned to be forever fodder for the super teams in some phony appearance of competition, I think I'd just stop paying any attention to the NBA.

Some one up above says we won't have to worry about these super teams by the time were ready to contend. No we won't have to worry about contending then, because maybe our superstars will ditch us and we will still be relegated to fodder and a false hope that we'll ever contend. How will you feel if Evans and Cousins become superstars and ditch us in free agency or demand a trade?

 

[SacKings7]

I think the fans have a right to have negative sentiments about it. If the league turns into a very few, loaded super teams, that just makes the rest of the teams the Washington Generals, that will be no fun to watch. You'd just have teams that have absolutely no chance of a championship and maybe no hope to ever get out of the first round. If it were to become clear that Sacramento was never going to be able to hang onto or lure a super star and were condemned to be forever fodder for the super teams in some phony appearance of competition, I think I'd just stop paying any attention to the NBA.

Some one up above says we won't have to worry about these super teams by the time were ready to contend. No we won't have to worry about contending then, because maybe our superstars will ditch us and we will still be relegated to fodder and a false hope that we'll ever contend. How will you feel if Evans and Cousins become superstars and ditch us in free agency or demand a trade?

Exactly. If this type of behaviour keeps up, we could very well become the next Cleveland Cavaliers. At least they wouldn't be dumb enough to announce it on national television though

 

[Widowmaker2k]

Exactly. If this type of behaviour keeps up, we could very well become the next Cleveland Cavaliers. At least they wouldn't be dumb enough to announce it on national television though

If both Evans and Cousins become superstars, we're going to be the team other stars want to be on, not the other way around. The bigger threat is if only one of them does, is disillusioned by repeated losing seasons, and decides to go elsewhere.

 

[SacKings7]

If both Evans and Cousins become superstars, we're going to be the team other stars want to be on, not the other way around. The bigger threat is if only one of them does, is disillusioned by repeated losing seasons, and decides to go elsewhere.

Not if they wanna play in a bigger market

 

[Widowmaker2k]

Not if they wanna play in a bigger market

Sacramento's market isn't as bad as people want to pretend. Orlando's a smaller market, Miami's only two spots above us. We're ahead of Portland, Milwaukee, S.A., etc...and, with the Warriors consistently bad, the 'good' Sac teams bleed a lot of viewers from the bay area media market, which is the sixth largest.

Besides market area:
1. Sacramento is in California. Obviously, California has the reputation as one of the overall 'best' states in the country.
2. The Kings organization has a reputation, deserved or not, of being very player friendly, and ex-players are very loyal.
3. We still have a halo effect from the C Webb era squads. Players want to play here. Last year, Rubio refused to work out for anybody but us, wasn't drafted by us, and still hasn't come over because of Minny's organization (or lack there of). Cousins refused to work out for a couple of teams, and apparently would have refused to play for GS had he fallen to sixth. He wanted to be here.
4. The Maloofs are connected, high profile, glitzy owners. Sacramento maybe be a working class town, but the Maloofs impart some of their celebrity on the Kings organization as a whole.
5. Finally, in the modern era, have the Sacramento Kings lost a top tear free agent? I can't think of any. Bonzi? We didn't exactly lose sleep over that one, and it didn't work out for him either.

Just as players can have 'intangibles', so can cities and team organizations, and I'd say the Kings have great intangibles.

 

[SacKings7]

Sacramento's market isn't as bad as people want to pretend. Orlando's a smaller market, Miami's only two spots above us. We're ahead of Portland, Milwaukee, S.A., etc...and, with the Warriors consistently bad, the 'good' Sac teams bleed a lot of viewers from the bay area media market, which is the sixth largest.

Besides market area:
1. Sacramento is in California. Obviously, California has the reputation as one of the overall 'best' states in the country.
2. The Kings organization has a reputation, deserved or not, of being very player friendly, and ex-players are very loyal.
3. We still have a halo effect from the C Webb era squads. Players want to play here. Last year, Rubio refused to work out for anybody but us, wasn't drafted by us, and still hasn't come over because of Minny's organization (or lack there of). Cousins refused to work out for a couple of teams, and apparently would have refused to play for GS had he fallen to sixth. He wanted to be here.
4. The Maloofs are connected, high profile, glitzy owners. Sacramento maybe be a working class town, but the Maloofs impart some of their celebrity on the Kings organization as a whole.
5. Finally, in the modern era, have the Sacramento Kings lost a top tear free agent? I can't think of any. Bonzi? We didn't exactly lose sleep over that one, and it didn't work out for him either.

Just as players can have 'intangibles', so can cities and team organizations, and I'd say the Kings have great intangibles.

I'm not even gonna pretend to know what Sacramento is like as a city, as I've never been anywhere near there, so I'll take your word for it. Actually, you do make some good points there, so good post. But #5 means absolutely nothing. It's like saying the Chargers haven't lost against the Raiders in quite a few years now. So what? It doesn't mean they can't go out and lose by 40 the next time they play. You could've said the same thing about the Cavaliers up until a few weeks ago.

All I'm trying to say is that it's not out of the realm of possibility for something like that to happen to us if this trend continues

 

[ElRey]

Hey screw it let these dudes beat us each other in the East, it will make it easier for us to get back into the thick of things out west.

Also I would like to know how this is bad for the league? Players have been making trade demands to get into better situations for years who are we to judge how these guys want to play out their careers. This just points out the fundamental flaw in todays NBA, too many teams for such little talent. In the 80's and 90's a duo like CP3/Howard or a the Miami Trinity would be common place. Now I'm not saying its really the same exact situation but it's not that bad of a thing for fans I see.

We as Kings fans shouldn't feel that affected by this as we are a couple years away from even having to worry about taking on one of these teams when everything is on the line anyways. I think that when these guys are ready to take on any of em, they will be able to match them all win for win

Hey that's what I'm saying. WE could be back in the playoffs sooner than originally thought

 

[Telemachus]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Chris-Paul-LeBron-James-turning-NBA-into-league-of-quitters

I'll just say this: I don't like when sports stars demand trades, but I'm really opposed to this increasing sentiment against players who want to play on good teams.

I'm not a big fan of stars demanding trades either. However, I do understand it when the management of that team seems to be doing nothing to improve the team. Paul has watched as his team went from being one of the best in the West to a team scraping for a shot at the 8th playoff spot. In some ways his position is similar to that of Barkley when he was with Philly. The only difference is that Philly had made is pretty clear at the time that they had no intention of trying to get good players around Barkley. His presense was filling up the seats, so they were happy. In Paul's case, they have lost some key players (some have simply gotten older), and don't seem to be trying to replace them. I think he figures he should jump off the sinking ship before he drowns.

 

[Superman]

I think the fans have a right to have negative sentiments about it. If the league turns into a very few, loaded super teams, that just makes the rest of the teams the Washington Generals, that will be no fun to watch. You'd just have teams that have absolutely no chance of a championship and maybe no hope to ever get out of the first round. If it were to become clear that Sacramento was never going to be able to hang onto or lure a super star and were condemned to be forever fodder for the super teams in some phony appearance of competition, I think I'd just stop paying any attention to the NBA.

Some one up above says we won't have to worry about these super teams by the time were ready to contend. No we won't have to worry about contending then, because maybe our superstars will ditch us and we will still be relegated to fodder and a false hope that we'll ever contend. How will you feel if Evans and Cousins become superstars and ditch us in free agency or demand a trade?

I just think we're taking what's happened recently and running with it. Everyone is assuming that the Miami Three and this summer's free agency is going to change the way teams are built in the NBA. It might, but we're premature with our panic. First of all, there's a new CBA coming, and it might be increasingly harder for teams to lure big name free agents away from the Bird team in future years. There's also the possibility that the Miami Three bomb out and provide a blueprint for exactly how NOT to slap a contender together. We don't know.

As it pertains to our Sacramento Kings, yeah there's cause for concern. We're finally trending upward, and it would suck -- SUCK -- if we lost our young stars to free agency for greener pastures. But if we take care of home, and build a team that has a legitimate chance to contend, then when Tyreke and Cousins become superstars, they'll already be on a championship caliber team. You could argue that Cleveland was a championship caliber team, but they never won a championship. In Chris Paul's case, the Hornets have been going backward for two years. I don't blame LeBron or Chris Paul for wanting to leave, even if I disagree with the way they are going about it.

Lastly, superstars demanding trades or leaving via free agency is not new. It's been a part of the NBA for decades now. We went through the anxiety of having a superstar free agent in 2001. It's a part of sports. And it sucks, because we very well might lose Tyreke and/or DMC. And I'd be pissed. But if we play our cards right, they'll hopefully weigh their options down the line and determine that their best road to glory and success in the NBA is staying right where they are. If they have a legitimate gripe because of the trajectory of the team at that time, then I'll be upset with management, not so much the players.

I just think that people are up in arms because, as SacKings7 said, no one wants to be the next Cleveland Cavaliers. But the Cavs weren't the first team to lose their revered superstar, and they won't be the last. It's free agency. It's part of being a fan.

 

[Superman]

Not if they wanna play in a bigger market

The lure of a bigger market is somewhat mythical.