2022 Everything Free Agency/Trades Thread
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Oh I’m aware of how sad the Kings FA acquisitions have been over the years. But that lends it hand to my line of thinking here, quit cluttering the roster full of mid-level players. If they’re not going to help us win this year, or don’t have upside and potential to grow into, let them leave and sign some one cheap who we can manage around when needed to throw big money at some one. Whether it be our own FAs or one available. Kings are never selling anyone on location, so they better let their money talk.
What does DDV provide? Off-ball defense, cutting, and (in theory) hitting open looks.
If De'aaron Fox is your point guard, that is what you want.
Remind me again of what our SG rotation is now? DDV, like Barnes, was more valuable to us than anyone else. We can't just afford to throw away rotation pieces at positions we're weak at.
Terrence Davis, a slasher. And Justin Holiday, who was doo-doo for us.,
Even if Davis wasn't a questionable fit, that rotation ain't good enough.
And before anyone says Davion, he like Fox, might as well not exist without the ball in his hands. Even on defense he's more skewed as an on-ball defender at the point of attack.
If De'aaron Fox is your point guard, that is what you want.
Remind me again of what our SG rotation is now? DDV, like Barnes, was more valuable to us than anyone else. We can't just afford to throw away rotation pieces at positions we're weak at.
Terrence Davis, a slasher. And Justin Holiday, who was doo-doo for us.,
Even if Davis wasn't a questionable fit, that rotation ain't good enough.
And before anyone says Davion, he like Fox, might as well not exist without the ball in his hands. Even on defense he's more skewed as an on-ball defender at the point of attack.
Only a few things can happen that make this make sense;
-We're trading for Kevin Huerter
-We needed to clear the roster spot to pull GPII away from the Warriors
-Opening up a spot for one of the Martin twins to start.
-Same things, but to bring Oladipo or Gary Harris on as "prove it" deals (ugh)
Kings are basically drawing to one out in terms of FA SG's that's better than DDV (GPII).
-We're trading for Kevin Huerter
-We needed to clear the roster spot to pull GPII away from the Warriors
-Opening up a spot for one of the Martin twins to start.
-Same things, but to bring Oladipo or Gary Harris on as "prove it" deals (ugh)
Kings are basically drawing to one out in terms of FA SG's that's better than DDV (GPII).
You know, this could mean something. Even with 9 million in space, that would mean the Kings could take on a Collins while giving a team like the Hawks some instant cap relief without having to involve equal salary. Holmes/picks for Collins is possible with that space. Or what about the Sixers? Thybulle or instant relief is possible.
Sorry, I'm not participating in the 12th Annual Kings "Move that only makes sense if there's a follow-up" this time around.
I'd sooner just assume what you see is what you get, and if there is a follow-up I'd be pleasantly surprised. We'll probably make some ho-hum FA signings at the PG and C and call it a day.
I'd sooner just assume what you see is what you get, and if there is a follow-up I'd be pleasantly surprised. We'll probably make some ho-hum FA signings at the PG and C and call it a day.
He was with the Kings only a brief amount of time last season, and I can understand why he didn't make a huge impression on many, but sometimes I feel like Kings fans just don't recognize where value is actually located amongst the players on the team. If the goal is to win, you have to fill out a roster with quality impact players. DDV's metrics for his career suggest that he is one. If he signs elsewhere, good luck finding another player with his potential impact for less money than we likely would have ended up paying him.
Gary Harris was solid for the Magic last season.. I dont think he needs to prove anything..
Harris was much better for the Magic than DDV was for the Kings or Bucks last season, idk why he'd be in the 'prove it' category..
DDV shot 35% from the field, he seems more like a 'prove it' deal than Harris to me..
Harris was much better for the Magic than DDV was for the Kings or Bucks last season, idk why he'd be in the 'prove it' category..
DDV shot 35% from the field, he seems more like a 'prove it' deal than Harris to me..
I'm not sure there's anybody "heavily invested" in Monte, just people who have a bit less of a hair-trigger to call for someone's head the instant there's a questionable move. I mean, sure, it's fair to say that Monte now has at least two questionable asset management moves on his docket this offseason, between punting on the #37 and not offering DDV the QO. But those of us who are "heavily invested" in not jumping to conclusions are willing to at least wait it out through the first few days of free agency.
The Spurs are clearly tanking for Wembanyama right?
The Donte news is a little confusing but we did hear about this before -- that DDV felt like he didn't have a guaranteed starting role for next season and might want to look elsewhere. I'm not sure he's a great fit either given his erratic outside shooting. This could be an indication that we'll see a Fox/Mitchell starting backcourt next season or that Monte and Coach Brown have their eye on someone else in FA, or that stocking the Summer League team with nothing but 3&D wings wasn't just an empty exercise in taunting Kings fans?
The Donte news is a little confusing but we did hear about this before -- that DDV felt like he didn't have a guaranteed starting role for next season and might want to look elsewhere. I'm not sure he's a great fit either given his erratic outside shooting. This could be an indication that we'll see a Fox/Mitchell starting backcourt next season or that Monte and Coach Brown have their eye on someone else in FA, or that stocking the Summer League team with nothing but 3&D wings wasn't just an empty exercise in taunting Kings fans?
I think the spurs realized that Murray's timeline didn't mesh with where they were headed and weren't going to max him out in a couple years. They tried to sell high.... however, I'm not sure the Hawks deal is really all that much of a sell high gamble. Sounds like they got at least one unprotected pick (which is odd nowadays), but what are the odds that will really be anything better than a late lottery/mid-teens draft pick.
I’m curious to see these metrics, as now three NBA teams have given up on him. This also assumes that DDV reaches his “potential” and then after reaching said potential wants to resign with the Kings. Being that that would all be hypothetical to happen and far from certain, the flip side could be a wasted roster spot, wasted money on a disgruntled player who never really wanted to be here anyways.
It's interesting to see the Spurs stepping onto this path while Gregg Popovich still seems firmly committed to coaching. He hasn't steered a true rebuilding team since his first season head coaching the Spurs, and even then, it wasn't really a "rebuilding" situation. David Robinson was hurt, and the Spurs famously took Tim Duncan in the draft that year. Other than that first season on the job, Pop hadn't coached a Spurs team to a record below .500 until the 2019-2020 season (that's 22 straight years of winning records!), and they've remained mired in sub-.500 mediocrity since then, so it makes sense that they want to take an honest shot at a rebuild. I just can't imagine Gregg Popovich at his age in full-on development mode, dealing with the trials and tribulations of helping young players grow.