He wants 10mil plus guaranteed playing time easy pass , 2-3mil per season easy yes.
He’d actually check a bunch of boxes for the Kings.
Despite the Mike Brown connection I’m 100% sure the second he’s not a Warrior anymore with their magic sorcery they have in their building, he’s immediately reverting back to Minnesota Wiggins.
Yea isn’t he still playing on his rookie max too? If that’s the case then the Kings wouldn’t be able to trade for either cause of Fox on the rookie max right?Wiggins can no longer be in an "extend-and-trade" transaction because he's in the final year of his contract at this point. I think that means that they can't trade him for 6 months after extending him, but I'd have to pore over the CBA to be sure.
Yea isn’t he still playing on his rookie max too? If that’s the case then the Kings wouldn’t be able to trade for either cause of Fox on the rookie max right?
GotchaNo, you cannot acquire two players via trade on rookie max deals.
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Thought it was a year.Wiggins can no longer be in an "extend-and-trade" transaction because he's in the final year of his contract at this point. I think that means that they can't trade him for 6 months after extending him, but I'd have to pore over the CBA to be sure.
Despite the Mike Brown connection I’m 100% sure the second he’s not a Warrior anymore with their magic sorcery they have in their building, he’s immediately reverting back to Minnesota Wiggins.
Yea isn’t he still playing on his rookie max too? If that’s the case then the Kings wouldn’t be able to trade for either cause of Fox on the rookie max right?
I think the Kings can trade for 1 rookie max player - like Wiggins or Ben Simmons - because Fox is homegrown. But the Nets or Warriors couldn’t trade for Fox because they have a rookie max player on their roster that they acquired via trade.
but please don’t ask me to look it up
While I'm inclined to believe that Wiggins probably wouldn't be all-star material when divorced from the Warriors' sorcery, the Mike Brown connection does matter, especially since Wiggins is a pretty good defender on the wing, which remains the quality that the Kings most need to find at the SF position.
Fox
Huerter
Wiggins
Murray
Sabonis
I'm not ready to say that I'd be willing to take on whatever contract extension Wiggins is likely to command, but that's a starting unit with a ton of weapons and a ton of versatility, and if Brown can get such a team playing even top-20 defense, it's very likely a playoff team with some legs under it and quite a bit of room to grow.
Let's say 4/100 for Wiggins, or 4/80 for Barnes are 2 options we have for next season. Who you taking?
Let's say 4/100 for Wiggins, or 4/80 for Barnes are 2 options we have for next season. Who you taking?
Wiggins can no longer be in an "extend-and-trade" transaction because he's in the final year of his contract at this point. I think that means that they can't trade him for 6 months after extending him, but I'd have to pore over the CBA to be sure.
95. Can a player be given an extension and traded at the same time?
Similar to a sign-and-trade arrangement (see question number 92), a team may sign an eligible player to an extension (see question number 58) and immediately trade him to another team. Such an "extend-and-trade" is limited to three seasons, which include any seasons remaining on the player's current contract1. The salary in the first season of the extension can have a 5% raise over the last season of the existing contract, and subsequent raises are limited to 5% of the salary in the first season of the extension. The 5% limit also applies to both likely and unlikely bonuses.
A player cannot be traded in an extend-and-trade after the season (for example, on draft day) in the last season of his contract, or in any season that might be the last season due to an option or ETO.
Since an extend-and-trade has greater limits than a regular extension (three seasons2 and 5% raises vs. four seasons2 and 8% raises) the rules restrict teams from extending and trading the player in separate transactions in order to circumvent these limits. If a team extends a player beyond the limits of an extend-and-trade (for example, if they sign a player to a four-year extension), they can't trade the player for six months. Conversely, a team cannot extend a player it receives in trade for six months, if the extension exceeds the limits of an extend-and-trade3.
Extend-and-trade transactions are rare. To date they have only been used for Kevin Garnett (traded from Minnesota to Boston in 2007) and Carmelo Anthony (traded from Denver to New York in 2011).
A rookie scale contract (see question number 47) can be extended and traded in an extend-and-trade transaction, although there is no benefit to doing so. A rookie scale extension can be signed immediately after the player is traded (such as with James Harden's trade to the Rockets in 2012), and a rookie scale extension (see question number 58) can be much larger than the extension allowed through an extend-and-trade.
1The current season counts as one full year, even if the extension is signed as late as June 30. So if a contract is extended on June 30 with one full season remaining, only one new season can be added to the contract with an extend-and-trade.2Including the remaining seasons on the existing contract.3This does not apply to extensions of rookie scale contracts. For example, the Oklahoma City Thunder traded James Harden to the Houston Rockets on October 27, 2012, and the Rockets signed him to an extension four days later.
Wiggins can no longer be in an "extend-and-trade" transaction because he's in the final year of his contract at this point. I think that means that they can't trade him for 6 months after extending him, but I'd have to pore over the CBA to be sure.
Let's say 4/100 for Wiggins, or 4/80 for Barnes are 2 options we have for next season. Who you taking?
And extend and trade is limited to 3 years and 5% raises.Actually, it looks like the CBAFAQ has pointed me wrong on one major point here. The "extend-and-trade" is disallowed following the LAST day of the final season of the contract (i.e. when the player is an impending free agent) but I see nothing in the CBA that suggests, like the CBAFAQ says, that an extend-and-trade is disallowed during the final season of the contract (so long as the regular season is not over). So it would appear Wiggins *is* eligible for an extend-and-trade.