Why Isn't Sasha Playing?
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and where did you see that he want to leave ?
it was a tweed by some Italian blogger and all the media and fan base took it as granted …
I never ever saw Vezenkov saying “I want to leave” …
The only thing I read from him is “I’m back at the court practicing” …..
Don’t forget that tweeds are trading him since February ….
it was a tweed by some Italian blogger and all the media and fan base took it as granted …
I never ever saw Vezenkov saying “I want to leave” …
The only thing I read from him is “I’m back at the court practicing” …..
Don’t forget that tweeds are trading him since February ….
Either way, it doesn’t really matter. For all those dogging Mike Brown for having a short leash with sasha, and now seeing Luka getting exposed in the finals, I think he deserves an apology. And Luka is an A+++++++ offensive player. Sasha has to work hard at learning where to be on defense and how to recover after getting blown by. I hope he figures it out, but I don’t mind brown sitting him until he does.
There are really 8 that get consistent time. That is the way it should be. Let’s face it players not in the top 8 on all the teams get sporadic minutes. In fact, Brown makes more in game adjustments and tries to give the non-top 8 minutes when he can. I mean look at Kerr and the warriors. And yes Ellis proved himself when Huerter went down, that’s how professional sports go. Vezenkov got more minutes when Lyles went out. Did he out play Lyles? No way! You have to earn your minutes when you are outside the top 8.
ok mate . it's useless to continue the argue , there are people way better paid then me who are making the decisions ...
Yes under equal circumstances Vezenkov i better player then Lyles ...
But you will not see them in such situation , cause the one is local guy and the other is european ...
Lets hope Monte will make the right moves in the summer , and Brown will during the season and we see a strongers Kings teamnext year ...
Sabonis/Fox/Murray and Monk deserved to play much more important role then they did this year
cheers
Yes under equal circumstances Vezenkov i better player then Lyles ...
But you will not see them in such situation , cause the one is local guy and the other is european ...
Lets hope Monte will make the right moves in the summer , and Brown will during the season and we see a strongers Kings teamnext year ...
Sabonis/Fox/Murray and Monk deserved to play much more important role then they did this year
cheers
Trey Lyles is Canadian and right now is trying out for the Canada National Team, coached by none other than Jordi Fernández.
https://sactownsports.com/nba-sacramento-kings-trey-lyles-canada-olympic-basketball-roster/
https://sactownsports.com/nba-sacramento-kings-trey-lyles-canada-olympic-basketball-roster/
Lyles is actually Canadian , but still the local guy for the league of USA and Canada …
And yes I mean it , not exactly him over Vezenkov but locals over Europeans , and that is for sure
The only European who made an immediate impact was Doncic , who is … well out of the 1% unique talents
Don’t remember Giannis in the beginning but even Jokic had two hard years …
Not to speak about players as Micic (former MVP In EuroLeague) and Petrusev and many others
Everyone who’s outside the culture of the place has to be at least twice better to be under the same umbrella as the local guy
And yes I mean it , not exactly him over Vezenkov but locals over Europeans , and that is for sure
The only European who made an immediate impact was Doncic , who is … well out of the 1% unique talents
Don’t remember Giannis in the beginning but even Jokic had two hard years …
Not to speak about players as Micic (former MVP In EuroLeague) and Petrusev and many others
Everyone who’s outside the culture of the place has to be at least twice better to be under the same umbrella as the local guy
Sabonis was good when he came over, also petrovic, Peja, kukoc, Rubio. Sasha is just not as good as Lyles right now. It’s silly to say he has to be twice as good. If he was better he would get minutes. I guarantee brown and Monte wanted Sasha to be better than he was. I think sasha is better than bagley if that makes you feel better. Lol.
Sabonis ? Really mate , born in Portland , rized in the USA and out of your University system ... Yes great example ...
Peja - two season on the bench before he get the chance
Kukoc - selected in 1990, started playing in 1993 with one year on the bench only
Rubio - slected in 2009 , started playing in 2011 (though it was his decision i admit ) and played a total of 41 games in his first season ...
Petrovic : After playing mostly off the bench that year, Petrović experienced a breakthrough following a trade to the New Jersey Nets (wiki)
Soooo which of those examples aren't in my favor ? every single European , even great stars as Peja spent at least one season on the bench ...
Peja - two season on the bench before he get the chance
Kukoc - selected in 1990, started playing in 1993 with one year on the bench only
Rubio - slected in 2009 , started playing in 2011 (though it was his decision i admit ) and played a total of 41 games in his first season ...
Petrovic : After playing mostly off the bench that year, Petrović experienced a breakthrough following a trade to the New Jersey Nets (wiki)
Soooo which of those examples aren't in my favor ? every single European , even great stars as Peja spent at least one season on the bench ...
ouch you mean the guy who is promoted as a “One in a Generation player” and MJ and LeBron level and was selected to be Rookie of the year even before selected in the draft ? 
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Yes ok , we found the second exception of the rule . So out of hundreds European per year we found the the exceptions which make impact from season one - Doncic and Wemby ….
)Yes ok , we found the second exception of the rule . So out of hundreds European per year we found the the exceptions which make impact from season one - Doncic and Wemby ….
ouch you mean the guy who is promoted as a “One in a Generation player” and MJ and LeBron level and was selected to be Rookie of the year even before selected in the draft ? )
Yes ok , we found the second exception of the rule . So out of hundreds European per year we found the the exceptions which make impact from season one - Doncic and Wemby ….
)Yes ok , we found the second exception of the rule . So out of hundreds European per year we found the the exceptions which make impact from season one - Doncic and Wemby ….
Vezenkov is a bad NBA player. Being European has nothing to do with it. Looking like he just learned to walk while playing defense and having no idea what to with the ball if he doesn't immediately have a shot are why. Frankly it's offensive to suggest we care about where players are from in such a regard. It's certainly not on my mind.
ouch you mean the guy who is promoted as a “One in a Generation player” and MJ and LeBron level and was selected to be Rookie of the year even before selected in the draft ? )
Yes ok , we found the second exception of the rule . So out of hundreds European per year we found the the exceptions which make impact from season one - Doncic and Wemby ….
)Yes ok , we found the second exception of the rule . So out of hundreds European per year we found the the exceptions which make impact from season one - Doncic and Wemby ….
Great , we found a hall of fame candidate from the near past to proove me wrong !?
Yes there are some fenomenal players who are exeptions , ok ...
But in general you know that i'm right ...
It is not something bad , or not normal , but it is a reality if two players with equal qualities are on the table , coaches will always pick the local guy...
Yes there are some fenomenal players who are exeptions , ok ...
But in general you know that i'm right ...
It is not something bad , or not normal , but it is a reality if two players with equal qualities are on the table , coaches will always pick the local guy...
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Good players are good players. There ain't a team in the league who will play a worse what you call a "local" player over an Internstional one.
Maybe 25 years ago. Before Dirk.
ETA Once Dirk hit, there became a rush to find the next Dirk. Capturing an unknown Euro who could come at a low price and bring am immense following with him became a gold mine. Yao. Even Yi Jianlian was a thing. Jeremy Lin. Every team tried to catch that lightning in a bottle.
Your argument is short sighted and reeks of insecurity.
Maybe 25 years ago. Before Dirk.
ETA Once Dirk hit, there became a rush to find the next Dirk. Capturing an unknown Euro who could come at a low price and bring am immense following with him became a gold mine. Yao. Even Yi Jianlian was a thing. Jeremy Lin. Every team tried to catch that lightning in a bottle.
Your argument is short sighted and reeks of insecurity.
Please get over the excuse for vezenkov. He can’t stay in front of his offensive player. He is almost always out of position. Lyles is much better at the moment, so it’s not the local guy thing. If vezenkov could lose some weight or at least get in better shape it may improve his speed. And he should be studying the defensive schemes that brown runs. Maybe then he can get regular minutes, but don’t pretend he is a superstar please.
Also, many American players take a few years to make an impact. It’s not a euro thing.
Also, many American players take a few years to make an impact. It’s not a euro thing.
Olajuwaon , Yao , Yi Jianlian, Jeremy Lin are all great examples for Europeans with good success in NBA ...
Even the greatest example for european in Nba Nowitzki said after his first season (i didn't know this ) : "I was so frustrated I even contemplated going back to Germany. "
Which ones again proves the theory that for Europeans is harder to make a name in the League over the americans. With few exeptions which are just puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure talents ...
About Vezenkov :
''Always out of position in attack'- How did you manage to see that when he is always on his position - bench
The ''he is poor in defence'' theory is already too old , he improved in that part of the game and that is not my opinion
''Pretend to be a superstar''' - did i say he is a superstar ?? Did i say he MUST be a starter ?? The only thing i said is he is better player then the 8th in the rotation - Lyles , which more or less means 20ish minutes per game .... Superstars are Domas and Fox , and Vezenkov will be never ever ever be close to their status ...
But all in all the debate is a bit useless ... Neither i am going to make u all think different , neither obviously you can , cause till now i didn't see any strong argument to prove me wrong ... U hate one player and like another i like the one but don't like the another ... At the end is important the team to be in better position next season so lets hope both Monte and Brown are having an idea how to make it happen.
Cheers guys , let's see what the future will bring to the King's table
Even the greatest example for european in Nba Nowitzki said after his first season (i didn't know this ) : "I was so frustrated I even contemplated going back to Germany. "
Which ones again proves the theory that for Europeans is harder to make a name in the League over the americans. With few exeptions which are just puuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure talents ...
About Vezenkov :
''Always out of position in attack'- How did you manage to see that when he is always on his position - bench
The ''he is poor in defence'' theory is already too old , he improved in that part of the game and that is not my opinion
''Pretend to be a superstar''' - did i say he is a superstar ?? Did i say he MUST be a starter ?? The only thing i said is he is better player then the 8th in the rotation - Lyles , which more or less means 20ish minutes per game .... Superstars are Domas and Fox , and Vezenkov will be never ever ever be close to their status ...
But all in all the debate is a bit useless ... Neither i am going to make u all think different , neither obviously you can , cause till now i didn't see any strong argument to prove me wrong ... U hate one player and like another i like the one but don't like the another ... At the end is important the team to be in better position next season so lets hope both Monte and Brown are having an idea how to make it happen.
Cheers guys , let's see what the future will bring to the King's table