Who do we draft?
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bajaden
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What LA has to fear is that a couple of teams will jump into the top three in the lottery and push them out of the top three. That said, ending up second is better than third, where only one team would have to leapfrog them.
Yeah, that's why I was a bit surprised by their victory. I thought they would roll over the rest of the way to assure being no worse than second.
On the other hand, it is the Lakers. I expect they will get a top 3 pick no matter how it plays out but they are appearance wise shaking hands with danger.
Kingsfan23
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Again, I might be tempted personally to move that New Orleans pick for those Blazers 15/20/26 picks. The Blazers have a lot of roster spots taken up and might appreciate to consolidate. I see a some decent middle first round prospects as well as some possible good depth.
ParniValjak
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If the Kings keep all their current youngsters, 3 players drafted with their picks and bring Bogdanovic over that is 8 young players and not counting WCS. How many young players do you think they would want on the roster?
Tetsujin
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All of them! Then next season trade Willie for more picks! Three seasons of experience is two seasons too many!
King Baller
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Hinkie, have you hacked into Tetsujin's account?
Kingsfan23
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As many as it takes to eventually field a good team, the more young players the greater the chance of finding them if the draft is deep
bajaden
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Kingsfan23
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Careful, there are people that will think your serious....
Both of you and Tetsujin are being disrespectful to others opinions
Trading down for multiple draft choices is the prudent thing to do depending on how you see the draft
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ParniValjak
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So let's have 15 rookies on the roster and go out and play. Great way to succeed in the league.
Kings will have 10 players with 3 or less years of experience in the NBA. That is 2/3rds of the roster. You simply cannot go any younger than that and still build a respectable culture of competing and developing your players. You just can't!
You need solid veterans to show the way so that these kids actually have some role models to look up to who can guide then to what it takes to be a good player in this league and win.
King Baller
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Well I made a comment in a joking manner also
That said the strategy of trading down for multiple picks turned out pretty good for Vlade this past draft. But I agree with other posters and think the Kings should stand pat with their picks and just take the BPA.
Kingsfan23
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Well I made a comment in a joking manner also
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Viable strategy and given this draft it's the way I'd go
ParniValjak
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In this draft, I would either stay at the spots that fall the Kings way or try and trade up and get the guy we really love using the draft picks and other assets that we have.
Not that it is likely but if the opportunity was there to use the 3 picks we have to trade up to #1 to pick Flutz who apparently is a can't miss franchise type player, I would do that and use the cap space to try and fill the SF spot at the very least with a steady young veteran.
Not that it is likely but if the opportunity was there to use the 3 picks we have to trade up to #1 to pick Flutz who apparently is a can't miss franchise type player, I would do that and use the cap space to try and fill the SF spot at the very least with a steady young veteran.
LPKingsFan
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Viable strategy and given this draft it's the way I'd go
See, I'm not sure this is the draft for that strategy.
Last year's draft was considered weak. In that case, it makes sense to trade down for a couple extra rolls of the dice, as the Kings did.
This year's draft I've heard is more top-heavy than "deep." If that's the case, then I think you want to err on the side of quality vs. quantity, especially if you already have two shots in the top 10.
Now, if you're picking at 11-12 and your scouts are telling you there's not much difference between Bridges there or Jackson or Anouby at 15, then go for it. But if you can get Issac, Ntilikina or Smith, I think there's there's a drop off in trading down that I would rather avoid.
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kingsboi
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Most drafts have their consensus number one overall, maybe even number two or three. In this particular draft that seems to be the case. After the top 3 though, it really could go anyway depending on where the teams are slotted to draft. I think staying pat and bringing in two quality lottery selections even if it's in the 6-12 range is a good way to go about it IMO. It really boils down to how these players are developed here, teams year in and year out have found all-star caliber players outside of the top 3 or top 5 and while it gives the Kings a better chance at a franchise player, it's not always a given. I'll take a chance on multiple draft selections similar to last year and develop them and see which ones are worth keeping and which ones you could package in a trade down the road to bring in some quality veteran help.
allrightythen
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I'm really intrigued by Ntilikina but it may be simply because I haven't seen much of him so my mind fills in the blanks in information with what I want him to be. I saw a mock yesterday that had us picking Isaac and Ntilikina in that order. I can imagine the length of those two in a lineup with Richardson, Skal and WCS. From what I'm reading/watching the best of this draft is about 11 guys deep so I'm confident good players will be available with our picks. It's up to the FO to get it right.
Man, I really hope Bridges comes out. He's my 2nd favorite SF in this draft now behind Jackson. I love the potential of Isaac, but man his frame scares me so much, especially when he wasn't THAT dominant in school this year. I know he had coaching problems at Florida State and his length+skill is tantilizing, but to me, Bridges has just as much upside and I have no concerns about him physically at the next level. Tatum is the higher upside offensive player, but I think Bridges is a much better defender right now and has a chance to defend well at 2 positions at the next level.
Suicide King
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I am hoping for one of Ntilikina or Fox for PG and Isaac or OG Anunoby for SF if he declares and passes his physical. I'm sure I will get some flak on OG.
I like Anunoby but I wouldn't use a lotto pick on him. Late teens or early twenties though, sure. I put him in the same category as Bam Adebayo -- guys who have an uphill climb to establish themselves as big minute starters because the skill level isn't there yet offensively both also seem like good bets to at least be important rotation players with their high energy, good physical tools, and defensive role-player potential. I always like having players like that on my team. I don't see star potential there, but maybe you see something that I've missed.
Kingsfan23
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RIP worrying about the Sixers winning as the Bulls beat them tonight. Now I can wish to lose out without the swapping hanging over head
Suicide King
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@Hrdboiled
Definitely has a hill to climb with the injury. Before that he was slotted 9-10 on most mocks.
Offensively he is not polished. His freshman year he shot 44% from 3 but not a ton of attempts. Dropped to 31% this season preinjury so likely in between. He takes good shots on 2s at a great percentage.
Why I like him though is twofold. His defensive potential is immense. He is 6'8 235lbs with 7'6 wingspan. averaged 1.5 blocks and steals in limited minutes his freshman year. Im tired of being a seive on the wings.
The other reason was just from interviews. He just gave off a vibe of confidence,humbleness and a 1000 yard stare type demeanor. I was super high on him before injury. I was more thinking if our Pels pick starts to slide into the low teens or if Vlade somehow trades it for 2 later ones. Not that I advocate that per se.
Definitely has a hill to climb with the injury. Before that he was slotted 9-10 on most mocks.
Offensively he is not polished. His freshman year he shot 44% from 3 but not a ton of attempts. Dropped to 31% this season preinjury so likely in between. He takes good shots on 2s at a great percentage.
Why I like him though is twofold. His defensive potential is immense. He is 6'8 235lbs with 7'6 wingspan. averaged 1.5 blocks and steals in limited minutes his freshman year. Im tired of being a seive on the wings.
The other reason was just from interviews. He just gave off a vibe of confidence,humbleness and a 1000 yard stare type demeanor. I was super high on him before injury. I was more thinking if our Pels pick starts to slide into the low teens or if Vlade somehow trades it for 2 later ones. Not that I advocate that per se.
King in England
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Now that the college season is done I figure now's a good time to post my big board as currently constructed (the spaces between picks represent a dip in how excited I would be about drafting that group of prospects):
1 Fultz
2 Ball
3. Jackson
4. Fox
5. Tatum
6. Isaac
7. Ntilikina
8. Smith
9. Monk
10. Bridges
For me any pick outside of these 10 players would be a bit disappointing and the last 3 there would leave me a bit anxious/underwhelmed. For clarity, this isn't the order I think teams will pick in, just my preference.
1 Fultz
2 Ball
3. Jackson
4. Fox
5. Tatum
6. Isaac
7. Ntilikina
8. Smith
9. Monk
10. Bridges
For me any pick outside of these 10 players would be a bit disappointing and the last 3 there would leave me a bit anxious/underwhelmed. For clarity, this isn't the order I think teams will pick in, just my preference.
upinsmoke
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We all knew L. Ball's dad is a troll but now he is showing his bigotry.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-title-because-white-players-slowed-game-down
Blaming ucla's loss on the white players. SMH.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-title-because-white-players-slowed-game-down
Blaming ucla's loss on the white players. SMH.
HndsmCelt
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Almost makes you want to hope the Lakers keep their draft pick so they gets stuck with the nut burger dad... but I will still hope they get knocked out of the top 3, loss of tallent trumps major distractions every time
bajaden
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Well I made a comment in a joking manner also
I don't have a problem with trading down for more picks, especially if the player you wanted with that pick isn't there. But if I were to do that, I'd do it for future picks, such as in 2019 when our 1st round pick has been traded away. As much as I love the draft, and the potential of young players, I do think you can have too much of a good thing. I think you have to have a good mix of veteran players with the young players. Right now, I think the Kings have some of that.
Stock pilling draft picks is smart if the cost isn't high. You can always use them in the future as trading assets, or if you have multiple picks in one year, you can use them to move up. Personally, I'd consider trading both our 1st round picks to move up to the number one or two spot. Don't know if any of the teams holding those positions would be willing, but I'd make the offer.
bajaden
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I think those are the obvious top ten. Some people would have Markkanen in the top ten. I wouldn't, but I can understand why some would. I believe all of those players will be good players, including the bottom three. My greatest reservations are about Smith, but if he gets his head on straight, he has all the talent in the world to become a special player. Personally, I think Isaac will be one of the top three players in this draft. It may take him a couple of years, but I think he can be special. That said, I'll take any two of that group. I have my preferences, but wouldn't be surprised if Vlade takes a flyer with our second 1st round pick. Just depends on what he's looking for.
Who do we draft?
Dear Joerger/Divak/Ranadive
It's OK with me if you keep:
At PG: Collison, Lawson, Galloway.
At SG: Hield, Richardson, Temle.
At SF: Gay.
At C and PF: Koufos, Papaguannis, Tolliver, Cawley-Stein, Labissiere.
It's Ok with me if you let go of:
McLemore, Afflalo, Evans.
We should acquire one rookie and two vets or two rookies and one vet.
Trade picks and vets in anyay necessary to improve team.
On't give anybody up unless get something more useful back.
Our biggest need is at SF.
Dear Joerger/Divak/Ranadive
It's OK with me if you keep:
At PG: Collison, Lawson, Galloway.
At SG: Hield, Richardson, Temle.
At SF: Gay.
At C and PF: Koufos, Papaguannis, Tolliver, Cawley-Stein, Labissiere.
It's Ok with me if you let go of:
McLemore, Afflalo, Evans.
We should acquire one rookie and two vets or two rookies and one vet.
Trade picks and vets in anyay necessary to improve team.
On't give anybody up unless get something more useful back.
Our biggest need is at SF.
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