What's Petrie Waiting For?

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Is he waiting for a GM to have an ephinany, wake up one day, and say: "I just realized something: I need a point guard; it's time to trade for Bibby." Or maybe for a GM going through mid-life crisis: "My life is too damned dull; I need a red Corvette, I need the sweet trophy blonde, and I need to trade for Artest." Please tell me, what if anything is going to change over the next month that will lead any GM to think any differently about giving more than they already have offered for Bibby or Artest. Is there any reason to think we won't be stuck in "status quo land" for the next year? This has got to be the dullest off-season I can remember.
 
Kingster said:
Is he waiting for a GM to have an ephinany, wake up one day, and say: "I just realized something: I need a point guard; it's time to trade for Bibby." Or maybe for a GM going through mid-life crisis: "My life is too damned dull; I need a red Corvette, I need the sweet trophy blonde, and I need to trade for Artest." Please tell me, what if anything is going to change over the next month that will lead any GM to think any differently about giving more than they already have offered for Bibby or Artest. Is there any reason to think we won't be stuck in "status quo land" for the next year? This has got to be the dullest off-season I can remember.
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See teams scramble from repercussions of other deals. Bibby/Artest/Miller have no where to go but up in terms of their trade value at this point. It can't get any lower than it is. they've all proven to be all-star caliber players throughout their careers and are still in their primes. There will be a team(s) that will want to get over that proverbial hump and mortgage some future for the present...and when that happens, is when Petrie will stike.

Petrie NOT making a deal amongst all the crappy trade rumors is a sign that he's still got it...not that he doesn't. He'll strike at the opportune moment.
 
One thing I'm pretty sure Petrie isn't waiting for is approval from a bunch of fans on a message board.

;)

Lots of things go on behind the scenes that never see light of day. Us not reading about something happening doesn't mean nothing has been discussed, considered, etc. If you notice, there's very little activity going on anywhere else either...
 
PFFFT!! said:
Whoopty-****ing-doo :rolleyes:
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Oh come now, Geoff is a genius just cuz he is and stuff. ;)

Actually Bottom 10 in the league for the last 3-4 years. But a genius you know.


Still, whether you make deals in June or September does not really matter, so my own Geoff jumping the shark thread, where I plan to slap his mythological legend silly with a few of the dead fish he's been tossing in our backyard, is still going to wait another month. The photoshopped banner I plan on running it with is coming along nicely though.
 
Bricklayer said:
Oh come now, Geoff is a genius just cuz he is and stuff. ;)

Actually Bottom 10 in the league for the last 3-4 years. But a genius you know.


Still, whether you make deals in June or September does not really matter, so my own Geoff jumping the shark thread, where I plan to slap his mythological legend silly with a few of the dead fish he's been tossing in our backyard, is still going to wait another month. The photoshopped banner I plan on running it with is coming along nicely though.
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You're completely unrealistic with your expectations.

It's the natural cyclical pattern of NBA franchises. Give him 2-3 years and I guarantee the team will be among the Western Conference elite.
 
Smills91 said:
See teams scramble from repercussions of other deals. Bibby/Artest/Miller have no where to go but up in terms of their trade value at this point. It can't get any lower than it is. they've all proven to be all-star caliber players throughout their careers and are still in their primes. There will be a team(s) that will want to get over that proverbial hump and mortgage some future for the present...and when that happens, is when Petrie will stike.

Petrie NOT making a deal amongst all the crappy trade rumors is a sign that he's still got it...not that he doesn't. He'll strike at the opportune moment.
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Values can always go lower.

Unfortunately, you're making a case on why Petrie's probably thinking he's going to wait until the January trade deadline to make a deal. Didn't we go through that already? Sure sounds familiar... :rolleyes:
 
Gotta agree this is one loooong and sleeeeepy offseason - so far. The biggest news of the offseason has been Brad Miller being named Most Eligible Bachelor in Sacramento by Forbes.com. Tisha was named MEBachelorette. Maybe they should start dating so something happens before the season kickoff. :rolleyes:
 
JoMama said:
Gotta agree this is one loooong and sleeeeepy offseason - so far. The biggest news of the offseason has been Brad Miller being named Most Eligible Bachelor in Sacramento by Forbes.com. Tisha was named MEBachelorette. Maybe they should start dating so something happens before the season kickoff. :rolleyes:
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They should have kids so their kids would genetically be hella good at basketball.
 
JoMama said:
Gotta agree this is one loooong and sleeeeepy offseason - so far. The biggest news of the offseason has been Brad Miller being named Most Eligible Bachelor in Sacramento by Forbes.com. Tisha was named MEBachelorette. Maybe they should start dating so something happens before the season kickoff. :rolleyes:
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Not to nitpick or anything (well, okay, I'm gonna nitpick) Brad Miller is in a long-term committed relationship with the mother of his children. He's not eligible.
 
Geoff Petrie is waiting for the summer of 2009. It is sad, but the only way to do right by the organization is to try to get the current roster to play together. None of the trades proposed so far would make the team more exciting to watch or clear up salary cap room.
 
He is waiting for a decent offer. He will not trade them for garbage. Most likely this team will stay the same this season. IMO GP is going to gamble that their trade value will be higher next year. Unless someone really wants to offer GP what he thinks that they are worth, which is not likely, they are going nowhere.
 
I've been really disappointed with the Kings that I'm not even looking forward to the season. This is an awful team with no excitment. I see no hope in the future...well...maybe 5 years down the road I might see a little hope. However, who wants to wait that long?
 
Rockmeister said:
This is an awful team with no excitment.
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I don't see how you can possibly state that as fact when the team hasn't even taken the floor this season yet.

1. We have a much different type of coach.

2. We finally have some young bigs we can be excited about.

If you honestly don't think there's anything to look forward to, why did you buy season tickets? I'm being serious and not sarcastic. Your feelings seem to mirror Bricklayer's who gave up his season tickets because he didn't believe they would be worth it.... (I think that's a fair assessment of why he didn't renew them. He, of course, would have to speak for himself if it became a matter of discussion).

I believe there are reasons for excitement and fun, but maybe it's all perspective.
 
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VF21 said:
I don't see how you can possibly state that as fact when the team hasn't even taken the floor this season yet.

1. We have a much different type of coach.



2. We finally have some young bigs we can be excited about.



If you honestly don't think there's anything to look forward to, why did you buy season tickets? I'm being serious and not sarcastic. Your feelings seem to mirror Bricklayer's who gave his season tickets because he didn't believe they would be worth it.... (I think that's a fair assessment of why he didn't renew them. He, of course, would have to speak for himself if it became a matter of discussion).

I believe there are reasons for excitement and fun, but maybe it's all perspective.
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1. Do we? I get the basic philosophical differences but my fear with Reggie is that he doesn't have enough coaching experience to really be a "type" yet. I'm hopeful but not ready to claim that as a reason for excitement (yet).

2. Again, with the exception of Hawes, do we? Justin was on the team last year and Moore is hardly young. Not horrible additions but nothing that is causing me reason to rush out and buy NBA League pass.

I think the reason people are frustrated is the lack of direction and focus. If we knew we were going to be bad but developing young talent, ok. If we were repositioning ourselves for another push because we had most of the pieces to compete, ok. But to do neither is incredibly frustrating. In fact, I'm more frustrated as a Kings fan than I may have ever been before. Maybe it was the taste of something sweeter that raised expectations but I'm tired of vanilla.
 
It is a matter of perspective. We are excited for the season to begin. We love basketball, we love the Kings and keeping the expectations real, the young ones give us hope. Annie.
 
sdballer said:
1. Do we? I get the basic philosophical differences but my fear with Reggie is that he doesn't have enough coaching experience to really be a "type" yet. I'm hopeful but not ready to claim that as a reason for excitement (yet).
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Reggie and Musselman are not similar types of coaches. For one thing, Reggie is a former player. That alone gives him a different perspective on things. And if you admit to "basic philosophical differences," doesn't that make them different types of coaches? We'll know more once the season begins but I see an entirely different approach to things - and I'm excited about it.

2. Again, with the exception of Hawes, do we? Justin was on the team last year and Moore is hardly young. Not horrible additions but nothing that is causing me reason to rush out and buy NBA League pass.
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Justin didn't get much playing time last season as he was only here at the end. Notice I said young bigs not NEW bigs. I personally think the combination of Hawes and Williams is also cause for some anticipation at least. With me, it's something else to be excited about and a reason for looking forward to the season to actually begin.

I think the reason people are frustrated is the lack of direction and focus. If we knew we were going to be bad but developing young talent, ok. If we were repositioning ourselves for another push because we had most of the pieces to compete, ok. But to do neither is incredibly frustrating. In fact, I'm more frustrated as a Kings fan than I may have ever been before. Maybe it was the taste of something sweeter that raised expectations but I'm tired of vanilla.
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Do you think just because I'm looking forward to the season that I'm also not frustrated that things haven't been better? The two aren't mutually exclusive. My honest puzzlement comes when people can find NOTHING to be excited about. If that is, in fact, the situation I don't know if I could be a fan any longer - I'd probably just drift away and find something else to garner my interest.

BUT - I can always find something to give me a reason to look forward to the coming season. If nothing else, I love NBA basketball and I love the Sacramento Kings.

:)
 
VF21 said:
Reggie and Musselman are not similar types of coaches. For one thing, Reggie is a former player. That alone gives him a different perspective on things. And if you admit to "basic philosophical differences," doesn't that make them different types of coaches? We'll know more once the season begins but I see an entirely different approach to things - and I'm excited about it.
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They are different (which isn't the difficult part), it's the better and/or more exciting that I'm concerned about.

Justin didn't get much playing time last season as he was only here at the end. Notice I said young bigs not NEW bigs. I personally think the combination of Hawes and Williams is also cause for some anticipation at least. With me, it's something else to be excited about and a reason for looking forward to the season to actually begin.
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I'm hoping that the young guys bring something to the table but I'm not sure they are difference makers. Would I rather see them on the court than KT? Of course! It just doesn't feel like an exciting move in a particular direction.


Do you think just because I'm looking forward to the season that I'm also not frustrated that things haven't been better? The two aren't mutually exclusive. My honest puzzlement comes when people can find NOTHING to be excited about. If that is, in fact, the situation I don't know if I could be a fan any longer - I'd probably just drift away and find something else to garner my interest.

BUT - I can always find something to give me a reason to look forward to the coming season. If nothing else, I love NBA basketball and I love the Sacramento Kings.
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I agree that they aren't mutually exclusive but at some point,the constant frustration lessens a lot of fan's enthusiasm for the future (mine included). It doesn't mean I love the Kings less but it does mean I find myself less inclined to watch them. Which I hate, as I've been a Kings fan since the start.

At this point, I'm struggling to find the silver lining to the organizational direction. There is a total lack of strategic thinking (from both a business and basketball standpoint) and I wonder what, who and when it will get turned around. It's because I love the Kings that I feel this way as I want to feel genuine not forced excitement of Kings hoops.
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Fair enough although your final sentence sounds as though you think my excitement is forced and not real.

Not true. I'm excited before every seeason.

:)
 
whether or not this season is a "good season" from a basketball standpoint, it's nice to know you guys will be here to suffer with me. :D
 
VF21 said:
Fair enough although your final sentence sounds as though you think my excitement is forced and not real.

Not true. I'm excited before every seeason.

:)
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Not forced and I apologize if it came off that way. It's just that as you point out in your last statement, you and a lot of fans are excited every season regardless of what the team does. It's a different way of being a fan, no better or worse.
 
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