Bosnian Diehard
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Finished with 34 points and 9 REBOUNDS. He can be an elite rebounding guard in the league.
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iowamcnabb
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I’m not sure but it might be due to the way they count free throws 1 make is worth two (instead of taking two shots) until the end of games. So my guess is he had 6 trips to the line for a total of 13 points (one being a foul on a three.) I’m not sure on this though. Their individual point total add up to 120 so I think the 34 is correct.
Edit: so I went through the play by play. He had 2 trips to the line on fouled threes (6 points) one technical foul free throw (1 point) and 3 two point shots he was fouled on (6 points) for a total of 13 points at the line.
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SacTownKid
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Yeah, and with guards transitioning over that's always a question as to whether that will translate. So far, even in the limited minutes of NBA time those numbers are translating per minute and it's the same with the G league.
Ah that makes a lot of sense. For some reason I was thinking they were still taking two FTs if they made the first and only one shot if they missed the first.
Someone is writing him off? LOL, classic Kings fans.
iowamcnabb
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DLo and KC trash him every chance they get.
iowamcnabb
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We are a long ways away from this even being a thing but I do dream of this lineup in the future:
Carter
Keon
Lavine
Keegan
Sabonis
Defensively that lineup could be sick. Theoretically you would have 3 plus defenders, 5 capable shooters, 3 plus rebounders. ISO scoring would not be a strength. Keegan would have to be a 16-19 a game kinda guy. Carter would have to take a huge leap. But that could be fun. Monk back to big time scorer off the bench.
I’m excited to watch the development of Dev
Carter
Keon
Lavine
Keegan
Sabonis
Defensively that lineup could be sick. Theoretically you would have 3 plus defenders, 5 capable shooters, 3 plus rebounders. ISO scoring would not be a strength. Keegan would have to be a 16-19 a game kinda guy. Carter would have to take a huge leap. But that could be fun. Monk back to big time scorer off the bench.
I’m excited to watch the development of Dev
Not that I hate this as an eventual lineup, but this implies that both Monk and DeRozan have moved on, and unless we're going to propose that they moved on in free agency, we ought to have gotten some good assets for them, and one of the Carter/Keon/Murray slots in the rotation would hopefully be filled with an even better player.
iowamcnabb
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I’ve got Monk coming off the bench in a 6th man role in this scenerio. I love watching Deebo but could see him moved in the offseason if we cap out as a handful of games above .500 squad this year.
Plus, I’m desperate to watch a defense first squad for once in my fandom.
I'm afraid I just don't see that happening. Genie, bottle, toothpaste, tube. Monk is a starter now, and that can't be undone.
iowamcnabb
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you could be right, definitely for this year. So much uncertainty moving forward. Will Monte have his job? What about Doug? Will any of the current players ask to be traded this offseason if we miss the playoffs? We have some good pieces, just have to figure out how they best fit together.
GWD
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Difficult to do, but "CAN'T" might be an absolute that can be overcome. Christie has it in him, perhaps the administration would allow it. Starting at point guard doesn't really play to Monk's greatest strengths given who else is starting...and Monk seems to know it. He might be able to be convinced that the 6th man role would benefit the team...ego aside. Rather than seeing it as a demotion, it could be presented as an adjustment to showcase his unique abilities.
Then there is always the, "rotate him out at the first opportunity" (foul or time out) to make a point tactic. He would de facto start, but realistically be the 6th man where he can add so much more to the team, as he has amply demonstrated. There is much more opportunity and expectation to be the "freewheeling" Monk in that role.
Section 101
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Yes it can. Fultz actually looks like the best starting pg. I'm a big Keon fan, but his handles aren't up there yet for primary ball handler.
Monks best role has always been 6th mam spark plug off the bench ie Vinny Johnson.
If we moved Monk to the bench for Fultz, I'm 99% sure that he would actively revolt. Like, Monk firebombing G1C would not be out of the realm of possibility (OK, maybe a little beyond the realm, but you get my point). So, like, you can do it, but the consequences of doing so will almost certainly be worse than the benefits.
Monk's best role in fact has been as a 6th man spark plug, but I am quite certain that Monk does not believe that, and that's what matters.
ShastaKingsFan
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A ticked off Monk might actually produce benefits on the floor. He's the kind of guy that can play better with a chip on the shoulder and something extra to prove
iowamcnabb
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It’s definitely a big question. On the flip side, he did re-sign with the kings over other teams he could have allegedly started for (may or may not be true). Mike Brown always said bench guys should want to start or play more minutes. It probably comes down to winning. If we are a 50 plus win team he is probably ok with the role. A .500 squad is a different story.
Yeah. At the same time, he resigned here where his initial position WAS as the 6th man. He was not the starter in camp. That coach is no long here.
I don't want to feel like we are dissing Monk , or any of these guys. Monk's gone to bat for this city, even after he got back-stabbed by his friend.
But what needs to matter is wins; and I'm very confident that longterm, that means Keon and/or Devin Carters defense needs to be in the starting lineup.
That's the thing. He proved it! Dude signed his generational wealth contract. We want him to be a competitor and want to start, but he's not longer having to "prove" anything in this league anymore. He's an awesome player, whether that's starting or off the bench.
I just hope this offseason, someone puts the hand up and takes the leadership to come off the bench.
iowamcnabb
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Yeh that’s what I was saying, he signed knowing he was a reserve. He made his feelings about being a starter known last year- not happy with it but accepts it for the betterment of the team. I don’t think he would be happy going back to the bench but would do it if the team has success. If we don’t, I’d imagine he asks for a trade.
I might revolt too. Fultz is a reclamation project. He's thrown a few passes that had a better chance to connect with me on my couch in Portland than any of his teammates the past few games, I think he will put it together and could become a valuable contributor with some more time, but please.
Vinny Basketballerino
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I agree. Let's pump the brakes a bit. If Fultz can be a starting PG, he can just as easily bring those skills off the bench. Monk has more than paid his dues here and he not only deserves to be starting but is very effective with that unit. Fultz is a great pickup, let's let it be that. Let's let Fultz make us that super deep team, not Monk.
I am open to seeing Fultz as he progresses and I know it’s early but he has only played a handful of games this season after his rehab. We have him on the cheap and I see why they took a flyer on him as the upside could be very good.
As far as Carter goes he is where he belongs and with learning our system and getting good coaching plus lots of playing time.
We are trying to make the playoffs and I believe DC is going to ride the players we have on the main roster. That doesn’t mean he won’t get time on the court in Sacramento in spots.
As far as Carter goes he is where he belongs and with learning our system and getting good coaching plus lots of playing time.
We are trying to make the playoffs and I believe DC is going to ride the players we have on the main roster. That doesn’t mean he won’t get time on the court in Sacramento in spots.
SacTownKid
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If the team looks to need defense and a coach doesn't make that decision while potentially costing games, it'll cost him his job. Monk starting or not might not be the question but the minutes and down the stretch play may very well. Monk is a good player, but having someone like him be a starter on a team usually entirely depends on the team around him. It's like with Cuz back in the day, Monk guarding the front door and Domas guarding the back is going to be a tough road to overcome at some point.
SacTownKid
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Looking at the way FA played out, the talk of the market not as being as robust for Monk looks right. The Pistons and Magic went right to the guys they were rumored to be after.
SacTownKid
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It's way too early but as of now Fultz has an assist percentage of 9%. His most needed ability looks to be his ability to break the defense down and he's looked pretty good doing it. If DC is looking for the assist guy out of the options, Carter is apparently already it. He's 3rd in assist percentage of qualified players on the team and has an assist to turnover ratio higher than Monk or Fox this year. Far less chances for turnovers though so that's probably not guaranteed.
SacTownKid
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Here's some highlights of Carters game. Really good to see him working on finishing around the rim and the floater. It's all there, it just needs to be tapped.
ShastaKingsFan
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That guy guarding him.
Looked like he was going against a high school player 
Regardless, made some nice plays and shots
SacTownKid
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That guy guarding him.
Regardless, made some nice plays and shots
That's probably why they moved him off of him later in the game. Didn't matter, still feasted on pick and roll.
iowamcnabb
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No Devin Carter in Stockton tonight, I guess that means he is in Denver. Maybe he can sop up Fultz’s 4 minutes if Monk is out haha
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