Webber being booed by 76ers fans LOUD

Twix said:
To clarify, Webber never said he "felt like booing" himself.

"I said I felt like booing, just in general," he said.
If CWebb had said something like this in a Kings' uniform, we'd have discussed it for days...barely rates attention anymore.
 
Scottie Pippen's take:

Great expectations greeted the Chris Webber arrival in Philly seven games ago. How has it worked out? It hasn't. Philly is still winless since they acquired five-time All-Star. Why hasn't it worked? Because Chris Webber is not a good fit for Allen Iverson. Iverson is a guy that plays with a lot of focus on him in getting him the ball on offense and Chris Webber is just the total opposite. He's a guy that plays with the ball and makes all the guys around him better. The way Iverson plays within a lot of traffic is not a very comfortable situation for Chris because every time he catches the ball he's never in a comfortable position where he knows where every defender is out on the court. That's a problem that I see that he's dealing with right now. It also doesn't help that Chris isn't the healthiest I've seen him.

For it to work in Philly, I think you have to find some way to get Chris out on the court and make him valuable when Iverson is not out on the court, which may be tough because Iverson's a guy that carries a lot of minutes. He ranks No. 1 in minutes per game, averaging 42.5. I think Chris can create more outside shooting for their guys probably on that first unit to give them some balanced offense. Plus, Webber can really bring them some offense as well. In order for him to be effective, he has to have the ball in his hands and he has to be able to make decisions.

Also, Iverson has to pull back. He has to sit back and allow himself to be a spot-up shooter. He has to allow himself to work off of Webber for his cutting, put the ball more in his hands and allow him to be more of a playmaker out there similar to what he was doing in Sacramento. The coaching staff has to make some real adjustments and fast to allow Webber's talent to flourish. Right now they've tried to bring Webber in and implement him in a position that they had Kenny Thomas playing and you're talking about two totally different players. Chris is never going to be comfortable playing a role similar to Kenny's role.

http://www.nba.com/blog/blog30.html
 
Mad D said:
Scottie Pippen's take:

Great expectations greeted the Chris Webber arrival in Philly seven games ago. How has it worked out? It hasn't. Philly is still winless since they acquired five-time All-Star. Why hasn't it worked? Because Chris Webber is not a good fit for Allen Iverson. Iverson is a guy that plays with a lot of focus on him in getting him the ball on offense and Chris Webber is just the total opposite. He's a guy that plays with the ball and makes all the guys around him better. The way Iverson plays within a lot of traffic is not a very comfortable situation for Chris because every time he catches the ball he's never in a comfortable position where he knows where every defender is out on the court. That's a problem that I see that he's dealing with right now. It also doesn't help that Chris isn't the healthiest I've seen him.

For it to work in Philly, I think you have to find some way to get Chris out on the court and make him valuable when Iverson is not out on the court, which may be tough because Iverson's a guy that carries a lot of minutes. He ranks No. 1 in minutes per game, averaging 42.5. I think Chris can create more outside shooting for their guys probably on that first unit to give them some balanced offense. Plus, Webber can really bring them some offense as well. In order for him to be effective, he has to have the ball in his hands and he has to be able to make decisions.

Also, Iverson has to pull back. He has to sit back and allow himself to be a spot-up shooter. He has to allow himself to work off of Webber for his cutting, put the ball more in his hands and allow him to be more of a playmaker out there similar to what he was doing in Sacramento. The coaching staff has to make some real adjustments and fast to allow Webber's talent to flourish. Right now they've tried to bring Webber in and implement him in a position that they had Kenny Thomas playing and you're talking about two totally different players. Chris is never going to be comfortable playing a role similar to Kenny's role.

http://www.nba.com/blog/blog30.html
I disliked Pippen as a Bull because he was on the top dog team (and I normally cheer for the underdog), and I've read many things about Pippen which make him out to be a pompous person, but one thing which would be difficult to question is the fact that he was a great player (whether he is a top 50 player if he isn't on Jordan's team, I don't know), and he certainly knows how to play the game of basketball.

All that just to say "amen, Scottie".
 
Speaking of Scottie, I saw a show last night on ESPN when he and 2 other guys were talking about this subject and cracking jokes about being booed in Philly. Then they proceeded to talk about Webber's injuries and injuries in the NBA in general where they did NOT even mention the Kings! Seriously, what's up with that?! We have got to be the most often injured team in the NBA! But then they go on to talk about the Spurs who can do no wrong, how they're coping so well without their beloved Duncan and Ginobli. Ugh.
 

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sloter said:
I really hope Webber wasn't the one guarding Donyell Marshall in tonight's game.
38 points 10 rebounds in 28 minutes. 12 threes !!!
I just saw some "highlights" on ESPN. From what I saw, Marshall was shooting from the corner virtually all night. Webber wasn't guarding him BUT I did see him consistently boxing out his man for the possible rebound.
 
Also, Iverson has to pull back. He has to sit back and allow himself to be a spot-up shooter. He has to allow himself to work off of Webber for his cutting, put the ball more in his hands and allow him to be more of a playmaker out there similar to what he was doing in Sacramento.
That is the key. But the question is will it ever happen?
 
Some of them were on Webber, some of them were on Rodney Rogers, virtually all of them after the 3rd one were on the coach for not telling whoever was guarding him to stop helping on pick and rolls, etc. After someone hits six of their first eight threes, you would think an NBA coach might say "hey, maybe we should at least make someone else shoot an open shot" All that being said, that was a pretty amazing performance...not all of those threes were completely wide open, maybe half of them and they were 11-14 from three at some point pretty early in the second quarter. Funny thing was, the Sixers would have been blowing them out if they had shot even a good percentage like 6 or 7-14 at that point but it was instead a 1 or 2 point game.
 

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Mad D said:
Scottie Pippen's take:

Great expectations greeted the Chris Webber arrival in Philly seven games ago. How has it worked out? It hasn't. Philly is still winless since they acquired five-time All-Star. Why hasn't it worked? Because Chris Webber is not a good fit for Allen Iverson. Iverson is a guy that plays with a lot of focus on him in getting him the ball on offense and Chris Webber is just the total opposite. He's a guy that plays with the ball and makes all the guys around him better. The way Iverson plays within a lot of traffic is not a very comfortable situation for Chris because every time he catches the ball he's never in a comfortable position where he knows where every defender is out on the court. That's a problem that I see that he's dealing with right now. It also doesn't help that Chris isn't the healthiest I've seen him.

For it to work in Philly, I think you have to find some way to get Chris out on the court and make him valuable when Iverson is not out on the court, which may be tough because Iverson's a guy that carries a lot of minutes. He ranks No. 1 in minutes per game, averaging 42.5. I think Chris can create more outside shooting for their guys probably on that first unit to give them some balanced offense. Plus, Webber can really bring them some offense as well. In order for him to be effective, he has to have the ball in his hands and he has to be able to make decisions.

Also, Iverson has to pull back. He has to sit back and allow himself to be a spot-up shooter. He has to allow himself to work off of Webber for his cutting, put the ball more in his hands and allow him to be more of a playmaker out there similar to what he was doing in Sacramento. The coaching staff has to make some real adjustments and fast to allow Webber's talent to flourish. Right now they've tried to bring Webber in and implement him in a position that they had Kenny Thomas playing and you're talking about two totally different players. Chris is never going to be comfortable playing a role similar to Kenny's role.

http://www.nba.com/blog/blog30.html
Simply the BEST assessment of what Philly needs to do I've read or heard anywhere. And, because it's Jim O'Brien at the helm, it will go totally unheeded.

The first thing Billy King MUST do is get rid of JOB. Period.
 
If Iverson were willing to play more like Jason Terry in Dallas, or Mike here, he'd average his 30 in the flow of the game. With the way he is capable of moving without the ball and getting his jumper going on hot streaks, he could be spotting up and receving backdoor cuts with that quickness all night long. Why he insists on making things more difficult for himself with isos and contested three-pointers, I'll never know.
 
doone said:
Speaking of Scottie, I saw a show last night on ESPN when he and 2 other guys were talking about this subject and cracking jokes about being booed in Philly. Then they proceeded to talk about Webber's injuries and injuries in the NBA in general where they did NOT even mention the Kings! Seriously, what's up with that?! We have got to be the most often injured team in the NBA! But then they go on to talk about the Spurs who can do no wrong, how they're coping so well without their beloved Duncan and Ginobli. Ugh.
This is only a joke, doone, so don't be offended, but it's funny what fans will consider a diss. Just strikes me funny that the Kings got disrespected for not being mentioned as the team with the most injuries. ;)
 
Gargamel said:
This is only a joke, doone, so don't be offended, but it's funny what fans will consider a diss. Just strikes me funny that the Kings got disrespected for not being mentioned as the team with the most injuries. ;)
lol

it certainly doesnt bother me that the kings didnt get mentioned. san antonio, on the other hand, is a title contender, and in a race for first place in the WC. the absence of ginobili and duncan obviously hurts their chances. whereas most sports analysts didnt think the kings were going anywhere after the "big trade" anyways, so our currently injured status doesnt have much affect on where we end up, leastways not in their eyes.
 
VF21 said:
I just saw some "highlights" on ESPN. From what I saw, Marshall was shooting from the corner virtually all night. Webber wasn't guarding him BUT I did see him consistently boxing out his man for the possible rebound.
Any King or former King who boxes out SHOULD be on the highlights!
 
I agree with Superman about the naps but I vote that AI takes a long one (like Rip Van Winkle) and lets Chris show Philly just what he can do. It'll never happen though so he just needs to get the **** outta there and quick.;)
 
BullKing said:
Yep, exactly. I was about to say the same thing. Iverson is cancer....he will never win a title. He is nothing but a selfish ballhog that has never seen a shot he doesn't like. I bet most of his teammates would agree with this statement, but they're afraid to speak up. Just look at what his former teammates are saying(KT, Pharoah, Corliss).

Philly fans should also Boo O'Brien...his coaching decisions have been questionable to say the least.

Sixers are falling apart...i'm glad we traded Cwebb...let him jack up bricks in Philly. I like Cwebb, but he is close to useless now, he doesn't have much left in his tank, he is a liability on both defense and offense as well. Plus he has a big mouth...all of the above spell doom for the sixers.

When the trade happened i was furious. I thought that KT, Skinner, and Corliss were nothing but a bunch of scrubs, well i'm glad i was wrong and i'll eat my words. They were simply not utilized properly in Philly.
Nice to know I was right on something ;)

Nobody should be scentenced to a stint in Phili.