Tropical Island Video Vault Draft - ROUND 20 - FINAL ROUND

With this pick I'm taking the Shawshank Redemption. Great story of hope and friendship that's also very entertaining and infinitely rewatchable.



Well, that was one of the movies I was talking about that I thought would have been long gone. Good movie. I took it number 1 overall in the last draft. Hopefully the other movies I have in mind will make it back to me.
 
Well, that was one of the movies I was talking about that I thought would have been long gone. Good movie. I took it number 1 overall in the last draft. Hopefully the other movies I have in mind will make it back to me.
Yeah, and that was the movie I seriously considered taking after you made your comment.

But I didn't. Not sure if it will bite me and I'll never really know, but I just really needed some comedy after my first pick.
 
Incidentally, Grindhouse was released with an R rating for both BluRay and in theaters. Theaters were already concerned enough about releasing a 3+ hour long experimental film project; releasing it with an NC-17 rating would have virtually guaranteed it only playing on about five screens.

Also, I didn't balk when the rules were initially written, and I'm not certain it will have any impact on my list one way or the other, but is there a particular reason NC-17 films aren't being allowed? Other than the general PG/PG-13 nature of the board, that is? I ask because, contrary to popular belief, NC-17 =/= porn. In fact, the line between R and NC-17 can sometimes be so blurry that it's only the adult minded "serious" films that are willing to stick to their guns and accept the rating, while the more salacious offerings make a couple of suggested cuts in order to allow for a wider release. I can think of a number of NC-17 rated films that are a hell of a lot less violent/nekkid than the R release of Grindhouse, for example. If it's a mod decision, I understand and will let it go. If it's a commissioner decision, I might suggest that it seems a tad arbitrary (and potentially difficult to enforce). I, personally, see no reason that NC-17 films couldn't be allowed as long as the write-ups posted were board appropriate, as I would assume it's only porn that we're really trying to avoid.

Just my spare change.
 
Well, that was one of the movies I was talking about that I thought would have been long gone. Good movie. I took it number 1 overall in the last draft. Hopefully the other movies I have in mind will make it back to me.
I figured that was one of the ones you were talking about. I was surprised it was still available too.
 
Incidentally, Grindhouse was released with an R rating for both BluRay and in theaters. Theaters were already concerned enough about releasing a 3+ hour long experimental film project; releasing it with an NC-17 rating would have virtually guaranteed it only playing on about five screens.

Also, I didn't balk when the rules were initially written, and I'm not certain it will have any impact on my list one way or the other, but is there a particular reason NC-17 films aren't being allowed? Other than the general PG/PG-13 nature of the board, that is? I ask because, contrary to popular belief, NC-17 =/= porn. In fact, the line between R and NC-17 can sometimes be so blurry that it's only the adult minded "serious" films that are willing to stick to their guns and accept the rating, while the more salacious offerings make a couple of suggested cuts in order to allow for a wider release. I can think of a number of NC-17 rated films that are a hell of a lot less violent/nekkid than the R release of Grindhouse, for example. If it's a mod decision, I understand and will let it go. If it's a commissioner decision, I might suggest that it seems a tad arbitrary (and potentially difficult to enforce). I, personally, see no reason that NC-17 films couldn't be allowed as long as the write-ups posted were board appropriate, as I would assume it's only porn that we're really trying to avoid.

Just my spare change.
The initial rationale for rule #2 was as a no porn rule, making it more enforceable, and removing a gray area between adult industry and b movie smut, and secondly to bring a more family friendly vibe to the draft. If the mods approve, and the draft members are wanting for change, unrated versions and possibly NC-17 ratings (primarily for violence) may be eligible. I do hate to change rules once these drafts get underway, however...What say the masses?
 

pdxKingsFan

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Incidentally, Grindhouse was released with an R rating for both BluRay and in theaters. Theaters were already concerned enough about releasing a 3+ hour long experimental film project; releasing it with an NC-17 rating would have virtually guaranteed it only playing on about five screens.

Also, I didn't balk when the rules were initially written, and I'm not certain it will have any impact on my list one way or the other, but is there a particular reason NC-17 films aren't being allowed? Other than the general PG/PG-13 nature of the board, that is? I ask because, contrary to popular belief, NC-17 =/= porn. In fact, the line between R and NC-17 can sometimes be so blurry that it's only the adult minded "serious" films that are willing to stick to their guns and accept the rating, while the more salacious offerings make a couple of suggested cuts in order to allow for a wider release. I can think of a number of NC-17 rated films that are a hell of a lot less violent/nekkid than the R release of Grindhouse, for example. If it's a mod decision, I understand and will let it go. If it's a commissioner decision, I might suggest that it seems a tad arbitrary (and potentially difficult to enforce). I, personally, see no reason that NC-17 films couldn't be allowed as long as the write-ups posted were board appropriate, as I would assume it's only porn that we're really trying to avoid.

Just my spare change.
Yeah ratings are a bit of a joke. You get an un-rated movie these days and it isn't even an R, just a "whoo-look at me" for the home release.

Incidentally, for my money, the R rated theatrical cut of Dawn is the best version. It may be missing a few of the good zombie kills but the pacing is far better.
 

pdxKingsFan

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The initial rationale for rule #2 was as a no porn rule, making it more enforceable, and removing a gray area between adult industry and b movie smut, and secondly to bring a more family friendly vibe to the draft. If the mods approve, and the draft members are wanting for change, unrated versions and possibly NC-17 ratings (primarily for violence) may be eligible. I do hate to change rules once these drafts get underway, however...What say the masses?
I am fine with whatever decision is made. I was unaware there was any "gray area" between porn and not porn, like the Supreme Court says, you just know it when you see it.
 
It's tough to top the selection of last drafts #1 pick, but since I'm self limiting my list to movies not yet selected in that draft I wasn't a threat to take it. Nice pick :). With my second selection I'll be taking that man card back, thank you very much. Being a bit of a superhero junkie growing up, I've found myself looking back on that genre with mixed emotions. Sure, it's good popcorn crunching fun to sit back and watch a comic blockbuster, but the implausibility of the story, lack of character development, and cheesy dialogue and acting often make these films unwatchable to mature audiences. Not so with this pick. It is dark, foreboding, dynamic, vivid, and extremely well executed in writing, acting, cinematography, and sound. I'll happily take this film to my island and get my superhero fix. With my 2nd selection, I choose:

Watchmen (2009)






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Spike

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I think we could leave the rating as is, then send a PM to the commish to OK a pick before your time. Generally I think we're all pretty good with our choices, as long as we're not going after any Van Wilder Unrated movies just because they have extra boobies.
 

pdxKingsFan

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Your new man card comes in the shape of a big giant blue man part that you will now get to look at whenever you please.

I really do like Watchmen, it is one of the few movies released in the past 2-3 years I strongly considered. But for some odd reason re-watchability was a concern. I tend to watch pieces of the movie more than I ever watch the whole thing (the death of the Comedian at the beginning routinely gets played after I make equipment changes because the first time I watched it the scene was too dark to follow... so now it is test material, then I feel compelled to watch the opening credits which are just great, then stop). I think it is Snyder's best work and he did a fine adaptation of what is perhaps the most highly regarded graphic novel ever.
 

pdxKingsFan

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I think we could leave the rating as is, then send a PM to the commish to OK a pick before your time. Generally I think we're all pretty good with our choices, as long as we're not going after any Van Wilder Unrated movies just because they have extra boobies.
Is there any other reason to see those?
 
I think if someone wants to go for the extra boobied Van Wilder flicks, that's their choice. But the initial reason for my question was in thinking of a number of films that have only ever been released in NC-17 versions, but that very obviously aren't porn. It's an especially blurry line in the case of foreign films, for example.
 
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Yeah, rewatchability was one of the things that kept Watchmen off my list. Especially the version I own (which, with the animated Black Freighter footage added back in, gets close to the four hour mark). Genuinely like the movie, am happy to own it, but it's certainly not the first movie pulled off the shelf when I'm looking for something to watch. Everything on my island needs to be something I can (and have) sit through 20+ times without getting bored.
 

pdxKingsFan

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I was a bit irritated to find that the super deluxe special Watchmen movie was some limited edition deal. I'd like to see it but it is OOP. I don't know why they had to release it just a few months after the regular and director's cut versions. Movie companies can be so annoying sometimes.
 
I was a bit irritated to find that the super deluxe special Watchmen movie was some limited edition deal. I'd like to see it but it is OOP. I don't know why they had to release it just a few months after the regular and director's cut versions. Movie companies can be so annoying sometimes.
I didn't even know it was a limited edition. I only got it when I did because it was a present. Just looked at the prices people are selling it for in the Amazon Marketplace and... yeah. That sucks.
 
Right, well after Superman just tore my heart out, it's on to plan B. I was so close. That one hurt.





The Usual Suspects (1995)

This one definitely has re-watchability. It's probably best upon second viewing. More subtleties are picked up on each time you watch. Happy to be nabbing this one.
 
Right, well after Superman just tore my heart out, it's on to plan B. I was so close. That one hurt.





The Usual Suspects (1995)

This one definitely has re-watchability. It's probably best upon second viewing. More subtleties are picked up on each time you watch. Happy to be nabbing this one.
Great pick. i forgot all about that one. The Usual Suspects is the only film I can think of where I thought it sucked the first time, thought it was pretty good the second time, great the third time, etc. I've seen it about five times and liked it better each time.
 
I'd only had two taken off my list (Airplane and Princess Bride) before this recent run, but then boom three out of the last four were ones I'd considered taking with my second pick (and of course would have with my third). I'm a little worried about Dime Dropper, all three of those seem to have been high on his list as well.