Tropical Island Make-Your-Own-Movie Draft (Round 16)
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With all the Spanish actors flying off the shelf early, I didn't think I would get this pick in. Time to draft the primary villain in the story, or at least the main antagonist to Andrew. With my 8th pick, I select:
Javier Bardem
(Bonzo Madrid (Spanish)/Carn Carby (Australian))
Javier is the first Spanish born actor to win an academy award (best supporting actor in No Country for Old Men), and has given award winning performances in both English and Spanish. His dark, foreboding characatures will work brilliantly with these two characters, and add depth to the human drama in my film
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Filmography:
Bonzo Madrid - Bonzo is Ender's enemy and was the commander of Salamander Army. His pride cannot accept the fact that Ender is smarter and better than him, and this makes him cruel. His honor forces him to fight Ender man-to-man, and Bonzo is killed in that fight.
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Carn Carby - The commander of Rabbit Army, Carn Carby treats Ender well even though he is beaten badly by Dragon Army. He is one of the platoon leaders in the Third Invasion.
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More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Bardem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonzo_Madrid#Bonzo_Madrid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carn_Carby#Carn_Carby
Javier Bardem
(Bonzo Madrid (Spanish)/Carn Carby (Australian))
Javier is the first Spanish born actor to win an academy award (best supporting actor in No Country for Old Men), and has given award winning performances in both English and Spanish. His dark, foreboding characatures will work brilliantly with these two characters, and add depth to the human drama in my film
.Filmography:
Actor Credits
Invisibles (2007) Source Material (from idea)
- Vicky Cristina Barcelona (2008) Juan Antonio
- Goya s Ghosts (2007) Brother Lorenzo
- Love in the Time of Cholera (2007) Florentino Ariza
- No Country for Old Men (2007) Anton Chigurh
- Collateral (2004) Felix
- The Sea Inside (2004) Ramon Sampedro
- Bendito Infierno (2003)
- Mondays in the Sun (2003)
- Mondays in the Sun (2003) Santa
- The Dancer Upstairs (2003) Agustin Rejas
- Second Skin (2001) Diego
- The Devil s Backbone (2001)
- Before Night Falls (2000) Reinaldo Arenas
- Perdita Durango (2000) Romeo Dolorosa
- Entre Las Piernas (1999) Javier
- Los Lobos de Washington (1999) Alberto
- Second Skin (1999)
- Live Flesh (1998) David
- Extasis (1997) Rober
- Mouth to Mouth (1997)
- Mouth to Mouth (1997) Victor Ventura
- El Amor Perjudica Seriamente la salud (1996)
- Not Love Just Frenzy (1996)
- Running Out of Time (1994) Lisardo
- The Detective and Death (1994) Detective Cornelio
- Golden Balls (1993) Benito Gonzalez
- Jamon Jamon (1993) Raul
- The Bilingual Lover (1993)
- High Heels (1991) TV Floor Manager
- The Ages of Lulu (1990)
- Biutiful
- Money Never Sleeps
- Invisibles (2007) Producer
- Los Lobos de Washington (1999) Executive Producer
Invisibles (2007) Source Material (from idea)
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Bonzo Madrid (pronounced "bone-so", as stated by Petra Arkanian when Ender incorrectly pronounces the name as "bahn-zoe") is an antagonistic supporting character, serving to bring out Ender's brutal nature while at Battle School.
Bonzo, whose real name is Bonito de Madrid, is described as a strikingly beautiful boy of aristocratic Spanish lineage from the town of Cartagena. As commander of Salamander Army, the autocratic Bonzo suddenly has Ender Wiggin thrust upon him when Ender is promoted from his launch group. Bonzo was forced to give up a veteran soldier (a toon leader) to make room for Ender, is further furious because Ender has virtually no experience in the Battle Room. Bonzo takes out these frustrations on Ender and as a supposed punishment, he forces Ender to do desk work when his army is practicing. He also prevents Ender from participating in battles until after 4 minutes have elapsed, and, even then, Ender is forbidden from firing his gun. This causes Ender's individual soldier ranking to be high, and Bonzo hopes that this will help him trade Ender to some other army.
Desperate to gain experience, Ender begins to practice with many "launchies," younger students at the Battle School who have not yet been assigned to an army. After Bonzo orders Ender to stop these practices, Ender antagonizes Bonzo by privately threatening to have Bonzo "iced" (kicked out of Battle School) if Bonzo does not rescind the order. Ender inadvertently makes the situation worse by explaining to Bonzo how Bonzo should rescind the order. Later, Ender disobeys Bonzo's standing order to not fire his weapon during battle, turning a defeat for Salamander army into a draw. Rather than being grateful that, by firing his gun, Ender helped the team, Bonzo hits him for disobeying orders to not fire his gun and transfers him to Rat Army. This backfires on Bonzo, however, and he loses the discipline he had with his army because they understood that Ender's "disobedience" had been beneficial.
Following a battle where Ender, now a commander, defeats Salamander Army, Bonzo is finally provoked beyond sanity. Ender, enraged at the Battle School teachers, accidentally humiliates Bonzo during the end of battle ceremony. Bonzo and a group of his cronies corner Ender in one of the Battle School showers. Ender manages to use Bonzo's honor against him and shame Bonzo into engaging him in one-on-one combat. Taking advantage of the slipperiness of his still-soapy skin, Ender evades Bonzo and quickly wins the battle. Bonzo is sent home to his family in a bodybag, ironically on the same shuttle that transports Ender back to Earth on short leave. Ender does not know what happened to Bonzo, but he dreams about the fight when he is being trained in Command School. He vocalizes his fear that he thinks he killed Bonzo, and his realization is confirmed during Hyrum Graff's court martial, where vids taken of the fight are used in an attempt to prove that Ender was abused by the Battle School staff.
The Bonzo incident is pivotal in Ender's development, as it forces him to realize that he must fend for himself at all times, as the teachers refuse to offer him help — an attitude fostered by Graff. Believing isolation was the environment under which Ender would become the military genius needed for the Third Invasion, Graff attempts to put a psychological barrier between him and the other Battle School students at every opportunity. Despite this goal, he never intends to endanger the life of any student of the Battle School. By forcing Ender to take on Bonzo alone, without any adult intervention, Graff makes a mistake that stays with him through the rest of his career, one he continues to think of when making future decisions, and validating his own work.
While still at Battle School, Bonzo has an a couple of encounters with Bean. The first of which involved Bean playing along with Bonzo's pride and honor to learn about Ender Wiggin, and showed a possibly more friendly side of Bonzo. When asked about the continuous comparisons between Bean and Ender, Bonzo warmly replies that it only means he is younger yet expected to perform at their level; a pathetic joke to him. In his later encounter, where he and his friends attempt to intimidate him. Bean replies with insults, causing Bonzo to act out in anger. He pins Bean against the wall by his neck. Bean's reach is too short to defend himself and Bonzo strangles him almost to the point of fainting. Bean then believes he has fed Bonzo's anger and made things worse for Ender. He realizes how crazy Bonzo is and attempts to tell the teachers, who of course do not deal with the problem, allowing it to escalate.
Bonzo, whose real name is Bonito de Madrid, is described as a strikingly beautiful boy of aristocratic Spanish lineage from the town of Cartagena. As commander of Salamander Army, the autocratic Bonzo suddenly has Ender Wiggin thrust upon him when Ender is promoted from his launch group. Bonzo was forced to give up a veteran soldier (a toon leader) to make room for Ender, is further furious because Ender has virtually no experience in the Battle Room. Bonzo takes out these frustrations on Ender and as a supposed punishment, he forces Ender to do desk work when his army is practicing. He also prevents Ender from participating in battles until after 4 minutes have elapsed, and, even then, Ender is forbidden from firing his gun. This causes Ender's individual soldier ranking to be high, and Bonzo hopes that this will help him trade Ender to some other army.
Desperate to gain experience, Ender begins to practice with many "launchies," younger students at the Battle School who have not yet been assigned to an army. After Bonzo orders Ender to stop these practices, Ender antagonizes Bonzo by privately threatening to have Bonzo "iced" (kicked out of Battle School) if Bonzo does not rescind the order. Ender inadvertently makes the situation worse by explaining to Bonzo how Bonzo should rescind the order. Later, Ender disobeys Bonzo's standing order to not fire his weapon during battle, turning a defeat for Salamander army into a draw. Rather than being grateful that, by firing his gun, Ender helped the team, Bonzo hits him for disobeying orders to not fire his gun and transfers him to Rat Army. This backfires on Bonzo, however, and he loses the discipline he had with his army because they understood that Ender's "disobedience" had been beneficial.
Following a battle where Ender, now a commander, defeats Salamander Army, Bonzo is finally provoked beyond sanity. Ender, enraged at the Battle School teachers, accidentally humiliates Bonzo during the end of battle ceremony. Bonzo and a group of his cronies corner Ender in one of the Battle School showers. Ender manages to use Bonzo's honor against him and shame Bonzo into engaging him in one-on-one combat. Taking advantage of the slipperiness of his still-soapy skin, Ender evades Bonzo and quickly wins the battle. Bonzo is sent home to his family in a bodybag, ironically on the same shuttle that transports Ender back to Earth on short leave. Ender does not know what happened to Bonzo, but he dreams about the fight when he is being trained in Command School. He vocalizes his fear that he thinks he killed Bonzo, and his realization is confirmed during Hyrum Graff's court martial, where vids taken of the fight are used in an attempt to prove that Ender was abused by the Battle School staff.
The Bonzo incident is pivotal in Ender's development, as it forces him to realize that he must fend for himself at all times, as the teachers refuse to offer him help — an attitude fostered by Graff. Believing isolation was the environment under which Ender would become the military genius needed for the Third Invasion, Graff attempts to put a psychological barrier between him and the other Battle School students at every opportunity. Despite this goal, he never intends to endanger the life of any student of the Battle School. By forcing Ender to take on Bonzo alone, without any adult intervention, Graff makes a mistake that stays with him through the rest of his career, one he continues to think of when making future decisions, and validating his own work.
While still at Battle School, Bonzo has an a couple of encounters with Bean. The first of which involved Bean playing along with Bonzo's pride and honor to learn about Ender Wiggin, and showed a possibly more friendly side of Bonzo. When asked about the continuous comparisons between Bean and Ender, Bonzo warmly replies that it only means he is younger yet expected to perform at their level; a pathetic joke to him. In his later encounter, where he and his friends attempt to intimidate him. Bean replies with insults, causing Bonzo to act out in anger. He pins Bean against the wall by his neck. Bean's reach is too short to defend himself and Bonzo strangles him almost to the point of fainting. Bean then believes he has fed Bonzo's anger and made things worse for Ender. He realizes how crazy Bonzo is and attempts to tell the teachers, who of course do not deal with the problem, allowing it to escalate.
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Carn Carby is an Australian veteran who commands Rabbit Army. In the original short story version of Ender's Game, Ender held a low opinion of him: in the novella, when Bean was transferred into Rabbit Army, Ender says, "How can they put you under an idiot like Carby!", but in the expanded novel Ender's reply is, "Carby's a good man; I hope he recognizes you for what you're worth." Carby's Rabbit Army were the first to battle Ender's Dragon Army and were beaten badly. When Carby told the other commanders of Ender's new tactics, they didn't believe him, so Carby told Ender "to beat the snot out of them" in battle, as a personal favor. His honest and sympathetic behavior made Ender "mentally [add] him to his private list of people who also qualified as human beings." He is transferred to Command School and serves under Ender during the Third Invasion, one of the few Jeesh members who was never in an army with Ender during Battle School.
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javier_Bardem
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonzo_Madrid#Bonzo_Madrid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carn_Carby#Carn_Carby
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And Boom Goes the Dynamite!
OK, so apparently Mel Brooks can only take on one role - director. That's cool, because I'll need some bitchin' tunes to set this ragin' musical afire. So I asked around, and everyone gave me this guy's number. I called him up, and told him the plot. He hung up. I called back, and told him Mel Brooks was directing. Again, he hung up. Then I told him that he would get to work with Clyde the Orangutan, who apparently is a pretty popular fellow. He decided to listen, I gave him a demo of some of my songs including "Rheumatoid Arthritis and This Stupid Chimp." (Duet with Burgess Meredith and Clyde) He thought it was pretty good, but rocked it up some more. So Clyde, my work, and a boatload of cash brought in the composer:
The Phantom of the Opera
Jesus Christ Superstar
Evita
Cats
and now.... Space Nuts!
Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber
13 Musicals
1 Film Score
7 Tonys
3 Grammys
1 Oscar
If he can work with Tim Rice, he can work with anyone. My musical just got a bit more awesomer!
OK, so apparently Mel Brooks can only take on one role - director. That's cool, because I'll need some bitchin' tunes to set this ragin' musical afire. So I asked around, and everyone gave me this guy's number. I called him up, and told him the plot. He hung up. I called back, and told him Mel Brooks was directing. Again, he hung up. Then I told him that he would get to work with Clyde the Orangutan, who apparently is a pretty popular fellow. He decided to listen, I gave him a demo of some of my songs including "Rheumatoid Arthritis and This Stupid Chimp." (Duet with Burgess Meredith and Clyde) He thought it was pretty good, but rocked it up some more. So Clyde, my work, and a boatload of cash brought in the composer:
The Phantom of the Opera
Jesus Christ Superstar
Evita
Cats
and now.... Space Nuts!
Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber
13 Musicals
1 Film Score
7 Tonys
3 Grammys
1 Oscar
If he can work with Tim Rice, he can work with anyone. My musical just got a bit more awesomer!
Um ... okay so that round absolutely sucked as my next two picks (Del Toro, Bardem) were snatched from me. Ugh, I knew I should have held off on the older actors.
Anyway, I'm now off the edge of the map so this should be fun.
My next pick:
Mandy Patinkin
But you know him as Inigo Montoya
You killed his father.
Prepare to die.
Anyway, I'm now off the edge of the map so this should be fun.
My next pick:
Mandy Patinkin
But you know him as Inigo Montoya
You killed his father.
Prepare to die.
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Well, my cast is more or less set (no thanks to the damnable Bricklayer ), but I do still have one critical role to fill. And said role shall be filled by one of my favorite character actors; the man whom, in my opinion, has the second-most awesome voice in Hollywood. The man whom I like to refer to as "Mister Cool Breeze," none other than:
Keith David
), but I do still have one critical role to fill. And said role shall be filled by one of my favorite character actors; the man whom, in my opinion, has the second-most awesome voice in Hollywood. The man whom I like to refer to as "Mister Cool Breeze," none other than:
Keith David
No just the tagline, or short description, even title if you want it -- no personnel. That was thrown in because it did not seem fair that the person at the end of the draft (Monty's) would have one round (the final round) where her first pick of the round was not going to be for personnel, but rather for her full write-up/description. So I tried to think of some way that the other end of the snake (your end) would have a similar non-personnel round so it would balance. Hence Rnd 9 = tagline/short description. Then Rnd 10 will resume personnel gathering.
If that's the case, then can't we just forgo sequential order on the way down (and for that matter on the final write-up round)? That just seems like a tedious waste of time to put an individual clock on each person when there's no actual drafting taking place. Then it can end whenever everybody has their taglines in and you can put a max of X days or whatever in total.
Wait...what? I also thought it was a pick PLUS the tagline or short description.
I think this - and the thing NME brought up - might merit a little bit of discussion. While I'm not real concerned about using the 9 solely for a tagline, it does seem like a horrific waste of time to have to wait for someone to post a couple of words that will have no bearing whatsoever on what the rest of us post.
I don't know about anyone else, but I read every single write-up in the rock band threads.
P.S. And what's the deal with Gary? Does anyone know? He's been on the board several times since he initially timed out, I do believe.
I think this - and the thing NME brought up - might merit a little bit of discussion. While I'm not real concerned about using the 9 solely for a tagline, it does seem like a horrific waste of time to have to wait for someone to post a couple of words that will have no bearing whatsoever on what the rest of us post.
I don't know about anyone else, but I read every single write-up in the rock band threads.
P.S. And what's the deal with Gary? Does anyone know? He's been on the board several times since he initially timed out, I do believe.
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Well there is nothing stoppng anybody from starting to think about the wrapups well before that actual round. And you could have up to three days before yours actually. I was/am more concerned about Monty's -- was thinking of maybe having a couple of days break before the start of that final round so that everybody has time to put something together before we get to it.
I'm concerned about me too as evidenced by my incessant whining. But thanks Brick!
Seriously tho, are people not already doing their write ups? It has to be part of your overall concept at this point already no? Only thing missing is whether or not you get the peeps you want. I knew that with the b2b picks I better be ready to go with the tagline and the finale when it got close to me, just as I've tried to be ready when my cast picks were near.
Seriously tho, are people not already doing their write ups? It has to be part of your overall concept at this point already no? Only thing missing is whether or not you get the peeps you want. I knew that with the b2b picks I better be ready to go with the tagline and the finale when it got close to me, just as I've tried to be ready when my cast picks were near.
??? Aren't these things supposed to be fun and a pleasant diversion for TDOS?
In all honesty, I'm thinking this is no where near as destructive to the whole thread than people who time out repeatedly even though they've been on the board AND POSTED in other threads.
Now there's where you need to use teeth.
EDIT: Possible compromise? Brick suggested perhaps waiting a day or two after the final pick of the draft before starting it up again with write-ups. I think that would make it more equitable, yes?
In all honesty, I'm thinking this is no where near as destructive to the whole thread than people who time out repeatedly even though they've been on the board AND POSTED in other threads.
Now there's where you need to use teeth.
EDIT: Possible compromise? Brick suggested perhaps waiting a day or two after the final pick of the draft before starting it up again with write-ups. I think that would make it more equitable, yes?
I'd probably prefer you pull the stick out. I'm sure there will be some people raring to post theirs right away. There's really no reason to force certain people to go first if they don't want to when the sequence no longer means anything. I seriously doubt that whether people read through the write-ups or not has anything to do with whether they come out in a certain order. If somebody posts the same plot that I was planning to before me, then that's my bad.
You know, I sometimes get in trouble with my let's hear everybody's views management approach. It gives the impression that the rules are always in flux, and that wheel squeaking is how you move them. They are not, and it is not. We've had initial rules, then comments, then modified compromise rules, then a poll, then another poll, leading to a further modification -- we've had all sorts of feedback, and this draft is what it is at this point. Its not changing its essential nature more than halfway through no matter how many times the same people make the same complaints. It is intentionally more scripted than some of the other drafts, just as its subject matter is. A list of favorite actors is not a compelling topic (as opposed to albums, or hot babes or whatever). An anticipated movie forming up is. So here we build a movie (and apoe to a limited degree what that entails), not a list. It is what it is.
I don't think anybody around here seriously doubts my backbone, so there really is no need for posing or whatnot. The draft is what it is, there has been considerable effort spent on tryign to keep it more or less equitable for everyone. So let's get on with it.
P.S. Sorry about the Rnd 9 no personnel confusion -- if it helps any I actually forgot about that when planning out my picks too.
I don't think anybody around here seriously doubts my backbone, so there really is no need for posing or whatnot. The draft is what it is, there has been considerable effort spent on tryign to keep it more or less equitable for everyone. So let's get on with it.
P.S. Sorry about the Rnd 9 no personnel confusion -- if it helps any I actually forgot about that when planning out my picks too.
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Your intention that final wrap-ups were to be handled differently than in all other drafts that had wrap-ups wasn't established or discussed. The rule throughout the draft has been that if you don't act in the allotted time, the draft moves on and you can later make it up, at least on first offense. You're the one that would be changing midstream by disallowing that in the final round.
Right, all the more reason that the final movie building should be given a lot more consideration than a single pick of an actor.
Right, all the more reason that the final movie building should be given a lot more consideration than a single pick of an actor.
My Pick:
Jeff Bridges
Absolutely perfect for the role I am picturing him in.
On another note. I might just do my "tag-line" in the morning after I wake up, along with a few light character descriptions. If I don't do it, by, say, 11 in the morning, then feel free to skip over me to keep this thing moving. I don't like the idea of transitioning directly from cast to brief description like this, and I'd be lying if I said I was ready.
Jeff Bridges
Absolutely perfect for the role I am picturing him in.
On another note. I might just do my "tag-line" in the morning after I wake up, along with a few light character descriptions. If I don't do it, by, say, 11 in the morning, then feel free to skip over me to keep this thing moving. I don't like the idea of transitioning directly from cast to brief description like this, and I'd be lying if I said I was ready.
Tagline:
For dreams, night is the only time of day.
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We are all geniuses when we dream, the butcher is the poet's equal there. ~E.M. Cioran, The Tempation to Exist
Title of film:
(subject to change)
Weave
Edward Norton in the lead role as Ryan Helmsley/ Agent Vigil
Don Cheadle in a supporting role as Oliver Wallace/ Agent Havok
Charlize Theron will be credited as Julia Turner/ The Flame
Natalie Portman in a supporting role as Heather Turner/ Agent Unseen
Justin Long in a minor role as Dennis/Agent Wireless
Tim Roth in a supporting role as Mr. Samuel Carson/ The Frost
Jeff Bridges in a supporting role as Scott Helmsley (Dad)/ Commander Helmsley aka Agent Shake
Quick premise:
.... and that should do it for tonight. I need some sleep, figured I would make best of the inspiration while it was there.
For dreams, night is the only time of day.
-and-
We are all geniuses when we dream, the butcher is the poet's equal there. ~E.M. Cioran, The Tempation to Exist
Title of film:
(subject to change)
Weave
Edward Norton in the lead role as Ryan Helmsley/ Agent Vigil
Don Cheadle in a supporting role as Oliver Wallace/ Agent Havok
Charlize Theron will be credited as Julia Turner/ The Flame
Natalie Portman in a supporting role as Heather Turner/ Agent Unseen
Justin Long in a minor role as Dennis/Agent Wireless
Tim Roth in a supporting role as Mr. Samuel Carson/ The Frost
Jeff Bridges in a supporting role as Scott Helmsley (Dad)/ Commander Helmsley aka Agent Shake
Quick premise:
Ryan Helmsley is a legal assistant to Mr. Samuel Carson, a very well-known lawyer. He works with Oliver Wallace, Heather Turner, and Mr. Carson's nephew, Dennis. He doesn't hate his job, but he doesn't like it either. It isn't necessarily what he does with his life, but it is what he does with his time. The problem is, that every time he goes to sleep, he wakes up as the same person, in the same world in his dreams. His job description is a little different.
Every night when his day ends and his dreams begin, he wakes up a trained agent for an exclusive federal program as designed under the Obama Administration.
Every night when his day ends and his dreams begin, he wakes up a trained agent for an exclusive federal program as designed under the Obama Administration.
.... and that should do it for tonight. I need some sleep, figured I would make best of the inspiration while it was there.
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