Trade target or ‘21 FA target thread
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KAT's talent is undeniable and he can't really be blamed for the Wolves ineptitude. It was the same argument people used against Cuz despite it not being his fault. Plus your point was that KAT hasn't proven he leads to wins, but the same applies to Fox.
I'm not saying he's worth four 1st rounders btw.
I'm not saying he's worth four 1st rounders btw.
The question is not about wether he is worth that or not, the question is what would it take to trade him if only thing you can offer is net neutral (or negative) contracts and picks. In that situation its those contracts and about four picks. Aigain: its not my evaluation of his tallents, its my evaluation of what it would take to trade for him.
Per RAPTOR rating Fox is +0,1 and KAT is +3,1. In general I would always much rather have a high level offensive creator rather than defensive limited big. Still what Dime Dropper said is valid: if someone offered you a huge contract (neutral/negative value) like Hield and a protected pick for Fox, you would laugh at that. Its the same thing for KAT. The going rate for star status players have been seen lately. It takes a lot. With our assets, we dont even need to dream about trading for stars, at least without including Fox or Haliburton in the deal. That ship has sailed as we have done zero planning to get any additional future assets.
Per RAPTOR rating Fox is +0,1 and KAT is +3,1. In general I would always much rather have a high level offensive creator rather than defensive limited big. Still what Dime Dropper said is valid: if someone offered you a huge contract (neutral/negative value) like Hield and a protected pick for Fox, you would laugh at that. Its the same thing for KAT. The going rate for star status players have been seen lately. It takes a lot. With our assets, we dont even need to dream about trading for stars, at least without including Fox or Haliburton in the deal. That ship has sailed as we have done zero planning to get any additional future assets.
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Per: https://sny.tv/articles/sources-kni...onzo-ball-what-it-would-take-to-trade-for-him
If thats available for us, then take it. Match salaries with CoJo and whatever you need and take the additional 1st for eating the Bledsoe contract
If thats available for us, then take it. Match salaries with CoJo and whatever you need and take the additional 1st for eating the Bledsoe contract
Seems like a bit of an expensive late first (I assume they're talking about the Lakers' pick) but something like CoJo/Parker for Bledsoe probably makes us better in the short run. The cost comes up to about $20M for that first round pick, which is a bit high (the marginal value of a pick in that range is say $12-15M) but with the CoJo->Bledsoe upgrade, it seems like a no-brainer.
The three years on the Bledsoe contract are this year (made up for by losing the CoJo/Parker contracts), next year ($18.1M) and a third year (partially-guaranteed at $3.9M). We would not pick up the remainder of the third season (unless he was really working out!), so the total cost of the contract in the next two years would be $22M. But since we would save the $2.4M guaranteed on CoJo's contract next year, it's about $20M total.
We can also offer the MLE to match. If necessary, that's what we do, and that's where our MLE goes to. I don't actually see any info on what the MLE will be next year, but it was $9.258M last year, so it may not exceed $10M. We could also use an Early Bird exception, which will allow us to go to to 105% of the average salary from this year, which looks like it's going to come up to about $10M - so we could take the Early Bird up to about $10.5M. That actually may end up being more than the MLE anyway, and would leave us our MLE to use.
I don't think we need to worry about a team sniping us on Holmes with the MLE. Even if it turns out they can offer a couple extra hundred thousand when all the numbers come out, we can A) match with our MLE and B) the value is so close that a player like Holmes who has indicated a desire to stay in Sac could easily forgo a small amount to help his team out by using Early Bird, leaving the MLE available.
What we need to worry about is a team sniping us with cap space. We'll have to see how many teams have any, and who they want to spend it on.
I don't think we need to worry about a team sniping us on Holmes with the MLE. Even if it turns out they can offer a couple extra hundred thousand when all the numbers come out, we can A) match with our MLE and B) the value is so close that a player like Holmes who has indicated a desire to stay in Sac could easily forgo a small amount to help his team out by using Early Bird, leaving the MLE available.
What we need to worry about is a team sniping us with cap space. We'll have to see how many teams have any, and who they want to spend it on.
I was going on the idea that the Kings could get him for 5-8. I've seen that bandied about in some reports too. I'm not sure what the Kings would feel his value to be but we already know if they feel a player is outside of that window they will let them go as was the case with Bogdan which in the end was apparently a very wise decision.