Tony Wroten

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Just relasesed by Philly would really be worth a look here
 
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Inability to shoot would be a problem, but otherwise, yeah. Certainly has a lot more proven capacity to impact a basketball game than Seth Curry.
 
Inability to shoot would be a problem, but otherwise, yeah. Certainly has a lot more proven capacity to impact a basketball game than Seth Curry.
Does give us a crazy athlete we can try groom into a Tony Allen/bigger Ronnie Price type with more offensive skills. Wroten is one of those all out energy types.
 
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Can we sign him and send him to Reno in their crazy offense to help improve his offense?
 
Watched Philly versus Memphis and Wroten was underwhelming. Great athlete, but his decision making was aweful.
I didn't watch any more games with him in the lineup, so its a small sample size.
But based on this game I would think, that Curry is way ahead of him when it comes to effort, defense, shooting the ball and IQ.
 
I've liked Wroten for a long time. Coming out of college I thought his ability to get to the basket was almost on a par with Tyreke. Unfortunately, he's a worse shooter than Tyreke. He's a very very good defender, and has great size for a PG/SG, or combo guard. Problem with him is that he's been in the league for while now, and what you see may be what you get. Not sure you can say the same thing about Curry, who really hasn't had much of a chance to show what he can do.
 
Eye test, Curry is a shaky handler when guarded closely, but good when guarded normally. Good shooter, but seems to lose confidence when the shaky aspect of his dribbling is on display. Defensive effort is there. When someone hits a good streak, you can say that they are lucky, but you can't say that about defense.
 
You don't know that. Curry has not had a chance to fully showcase himself.

Note I said "proven capacity".

But even without that, aside from our tendency to embrace every scrub of the month as a hidden gem who is going to be some magical answer, Wroten is 22, Curry is 25 -- just because we only are seeing Curry now doesn't mean he isn't further along his development curve. Its just that his development curve has been largely at a sub-NBA level.

Meanwhile Wroten is bigger/stronger/faster, in short a much better athlete, and at 6'6" has legit SG size with a tantalizing ability to play the PG and give you a BIG PG. There is a sense of rawness there, but that's a good thing when you are picking a guy up for potential. Before his injury last year he was averaging 17pts 5ast and can be a disruptive ball hawk on defense. He was very inefficient, it wasn't winning basketball, but then again he was a 21 yr old kid being asked to lead the team and carry the offense of the Philadelphia 76ers of all teams. We obviously aren't going to ask him to do that here.

Karl likes ballhandlers and he likes disruptive defenders. Wroten has the chance to be both. On the other hand he's a bad shooter who needs to learn efficiency, which isn't ideal. I'm surprised the Sixers had to just release him. Seems like he might have been able to net them a 2nd from somebody.
 
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Note I said "proven capacity".

But even without that, aside from our tendency to embrace every scrub of the month as a hidden gem who is going to be some magical answer, Wroten is 22, Curry is 25 -- just because we only are seeing Curry until now doesn't mean he isn't further along his development curve. Its just that his development curve has been largely at a sub-NBA level.

Meanwhile Wroten is bigger/stronger/faster, in short a much better athlete, and at 6'6" has legit SG size with a tantalizing ability to play the PG and give you a BIG PG. There is a sense of rawness there, but that's a good thing when you are picking a guy up for potential. Before his injury last year he was averaging 17pts 5ast and can be a disruptive ball hawk on defense. He was very inefficient, it wasn't winning basketball, but then again he was a 21 yr old kid being asked to lead the team and carry the offense of the Philadelphia 76ers of all teams. We obviously aren't going to ask him to do that here.

Karl likes ballhandlers and he likes disruptive defenders. Wroten has the chance to be both. On the other hand he's a bad shooter who needs to learn efficiency, which isn't ideal. I'm surprised the Sixers had to just release him. Seems like he might have been able to net them a 2nd from somebody.

Yeah, I was stunned when they just released him. Makes me think that there's more to the story than we've heard. But then, they are the 76er's. I don't disagree with anything you posted. As I said earlier, I've liked Wroten since college. I'm amazed that his shooting hasn't improved at all. You'd think that it would accidently improve. But shooting aside, he's a very skilled player. For those that like Curry, it doesn't have to be an either/or situation. If we trade Butler for a 2nd round pick, then we have a roster spot open. So we just sign Wroten after he clears waivers.
 
don't we have a crazy athlete in ben? maybe kings should hire doug as a coach for him to help him w/ his game.
Ben might be a great athlete but he does not play with the hunger Wroten does, if Ben played as hard as Wroten we would not even think about trading him, it's the thing that's frustrated us about Ben forever.

Signing Tony is a zero risk high reward situation and we desperatly need to find a hidden gem.
 
Vlade needs to take a good hard look at wroten.

Ben is way to inconsistent and does not play with any fire.

Wroten is a high energy guy and defender who can score. If he can develop any decent 3 point shot, say .385 on 3's, he can be a 3 and D type big SG.

I think the kings should sign wroten ASAP and give him a chance to spark the bench, or possibly start at SG.
 
Vlade needs to take a good hard look at wroten.

Ben is way to inconsistent and does not play with any fire.

Wroten is a high energy guy and defender who can score. If he can develop any decent 3 point shot, say .385 on 3's, he can be a 3 and D type big SG.

I think the kings should sign wroten ASAP and give him a chance to spark the bench, or possibly start at SG.

Agreed. I understand we don't have a roster spot open, but do we really think we are going to get more meaningful minutes from Dukan than Wroten? The only explanation I can think of is that they think a Butler deal (for a protected second or the like, opening up a roster spot) is coming soon.
 
Vlade needs to take a good hard look at wroten.

Ben is way to inconsistent and does not play with any fire.

Wroten is a high energy guy and defender who can score. If he can develop any decent 3 point shot, say .385 on 3's, he can be a 3 and D type big SG.

I think the kings should sign wroten ASAP and give him a chance to spark the bench, or possibly start at SG.
Wroten will never be a 3&D type of player.

He's a poorman's Tyreke.

Maybe at best, he becomes Lance Stephenson, but more ball handling.

I think we need to go after him, but he wouldn't fit alongside Rondo/Cuz/Gay. He'd have to come off the bench
 
I've always liked his game. I'd offer him a cheap two year deal and drop Dukan. He could come in handy depending on what we decide to do with Rondo/Collison next offseason.
 
Could anyone think of a reason why no one has picked up Wroten (aside from if you don't think he's an NBA level player).
 
Nope....surprising.....perhaps there is an injury or he's damaged goods and not quite right from the previous injury.
 
Maybe it's time to bring this guy in to try to use as our perimeter defender. Our backcourt has been getting killed of late. It wouldn't hurt.
 
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