Tim Legler from ESPN says...

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NBA TV: The pheonix suns will not be as good as last years team.

They are losing their depth and they have lost a good defender in Quentin Richardson.

According to Legler, signing kurt thomas and raja bell won't help their team defense; and in his opinion raja bell will never be as good as Q on the defensive end!



Thoughts on the suns this upcomming year?
 
They will be the Kings of last year. And we will be the Suns.
 
Going out on a thin limb here. If the Kings do not get a legitimate pf (guy over 6'9 who can rebound and play the post), then the Golden State Warriors will win the Pacific.
 
Yoda said:
Going out on a thin limb here. If the Kings do not get a legitimate pf (guy over 6'9 who can rebound and play the post), then the Golden State Warriors will win the Pacific.

No team with Mike Dunleavy and Adonal Foyle in their starting lineup will ever be better than the Kings. The Warriors still suck.
 
Warriors line-up:

Davis/Richardson/DunleavyMurphy/Foyle

That line-up (like during their 2-month or so run), will make them better, and probably make the playoffs. But a division winning team? No. 3rd place.

I fully agree with Legler on Suns not being as good as last year, but think Thomas/Bell will improve their defense. Their bench will be even weaker than last year if they don't get a couple more (productive) guys for it. J-Jax is their bench, Barbosa isn't consistent enough. McCarty could be something with a full season/camp, but he could be elsewhere, and Hunter is likely gone. Phoenix needs to get a back-up PG, unless Barbosa does well in pre-season.
 
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nbrans said:
No team with Mike Dunleavy and Adonal Foyle in their starting lineup will ever be better than the Kings. The Warriors still suck.
Foyle certainly stinks but Dunleavy. He is a poor man's Peja. He's alright.
 
nbrans said:
No team with Mike Dunleavy and Adonal Foyle in their starting lineup will ever be better than the Kings. The Warriors still suck.

Why the hate on Dun? He is a VERY good player. I actually think they look pretty good, of course, they have ALWAYS had an abundance of talent, just never knew how to use it.
 
By my count, the offseason is still not over yet. Lots of deals left to be done, both on our front AND Pheonix. Maybe it should be considered that the JJ deal is in bad shape right now, meaning that he may forced to look at lesser offers from other franchises, which then means that the Suns would have a much easier time signing him, should the desire to do so. But when Tim Legler speaks, it must be final.
 
tyrant said:
Tim Legler from ESPN says...

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Peja4threee said:
[size=+1]Well, Raja Bell did end up on the worst defenders list on 82games.com[/size]

Well, that's the first I heard/read of him being a bad defender (never really saw much of him).
 
Kings113 said:
Well, that's the first I heard/read of him being a bad defender (never really saw much of him).
He was that guy standing there watching his man run by.
 
I never saw Raja as a great defender but he is the type of player that only adds to the team he is on. He doesn't make many mistakes on the court and works his butt off from the get go.
 
the suns are easier to match up with now... their outside shooting is gone... and well, thomas isnt that good....
 
Peja4threee said:
[size=+1]Well, Raja Bell did end up on the worst defenders list on 82games.com[/size]

One of the reasons I view many of the stats on that site with suspicion. What is closer to the truth is that the JAZZ were one of the worst defensive teams. Raja's rep, on the other hand, is as a solid defender.

You will also learn from that site Bibby is a good defender, that Skinner and Mo were two of our worst defenders, that we would have been better off without Peja on the team last year, and that Darius is the key to our championship hopes. As I said, suspect.
 
darius is key.... once we get a stud pf.... we will need a roleplayer that wont overstep the boundaries and become demanding..... he knows his role, thats what makes him so great.... its actually sad that we are probably going to lose him since we cant trade thomas....
 
VF21 said:

TOO CUTE!!!!!!!!!

i agree on the soleils for next year. i don't think they are going to be as good. JJ and Q hitting those 3 really stretched the team out. they will be easier to stop defensively IMO.

GO KINGS FOR THE PACIFIC!!!!!!!!!!
 
Kings113 said:
Warriors line-up:

Davis/Richardson/DunleavyMurphy/Foyle

That line-up (like during their 2-month or so run), will make them better, and probably make the playoffs. But a division winning team? No. 3rd place.

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Reason we have big problems with this line up is that Bibby has to guard someone and we gett killed by that man. For a long time it was DC vs. JRich and we were fine. Now we have Bibby vs. B Davis and not much we can do about it.
 
piksi said:
Reason we have big problems with this line up is that Bibby has to guard someone and we gett killed by that man. For a long time it was DC vs. JRich and we were fine. Now we have Bibby vs. B Davis and not much we can do about it.
Its not just us.
 
hope the warriors make it to end their drought...

i really think the warriors have a chance to dominate IF they get a dominant centre...
 
Yoda said:
Going out on a thin limb here. If the Kings do not get a legitimate pf (guy over 6'9 who can rebound and play the post), then the Golden State Warriors will win the Pacific.

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeese, the warriors. :eek:

I do like the warriors, but I think they are a year or two away. I do think that they can make the play-offs, but not win the pacific. ;)
 
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^^^^^

I agree, the Warriors seem as if they are a year or two away. But it seems like they are ALWAYS a year or two away. Maybe a playoff berth would kick start their way to the top. Also i dont know why i want them to be better, seeing as how they would only provide more competition for the kings. But i do want them to be better, maybe bcuz i have always admired a solid Warriors fan.
 
"Here in Phoenix, an exciting, endearing basketball team has imploded before our eyes. If the Suns would've simply done what they promised - match any offer sheet for Johnson and keep the core of the team together - the additions of Kurt Thomas and Raja Bell would've placed them over the top. They would've played the Miami Heat for a championship next season. Instead, Robert Sarver got jittery. The Suns made low-ball offers to Johnson while simultaneously suppressing his market value (telling other teams the Suns would match any offer). After contentious negotiations last summer, the Suns should've ignored any rumblings of his discontent. Instead, Sarver used the bitterness he helped create within Johnson as the reason not to give Johnson $70 million."

"It must be said that Sarver is doing much better with Amaré Stoudemire. He invited the big fella to ring the bell at the New York Stock Exchange when Sarver's company went public. Sarver also invited Stoudemire to invest money in the company, and in the first month, the stock soared 31 percent. FYI, Sarver's personal value went up about $15 million."

"NBA Commissioner David Stern did not make a ruling Wednesday on eight Atlanta Hawks owners' Tuesday request to remove dissident ninth partner, Steve Belkin, as the team's NBA governor. There are hopes that a ruling may come midday today and an expectation that Stern will render a decision by Friday. The sign-and-trade deal involving Johnson's move to Atlanta, which Belkin is blocking with his power as governor, is freezing related moves across the league. If it drags on too long, it will overlap the Monday deadline for amnesty-rule releases and possibly affect Phoenix's chances of wooing Dallas guard Michael Finley to help replace Johnson."

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/columns/articles/0811bickley0811.html
 
Tim Legler... wow, I mean, he knows SO MUCH about basketball. He was such a great player/coach/gm. I would take Tim's opinion as gosphel!

OR, he has no idea what he is talking about.
 
All of a sudden Quentin Richardson is a good defender? Why wasn't anyone saying this back when he was actually playing?

Raja Bell is a much better defender than Q, who cares what some nerd at 82games.com came up with after hours of number crunching. If you've seen him play, you know he's not one of the worst defenders in the league. Cute exclusive statistical anomalies they got there though. Raja Bell is one of the worst defenders and Shandon Anderson is a better defender than Bruce Bowen. I bet they're beaming with pride because they're the only place you'll be able to read those little factoids.

and

Legler's a guy who seems like he just says stuff because he has an "I'm an expert and now I'll give you x amount of commentary" mentality. He has to fill a commentary quota, so he ends up going off on some made-up nonsensical stuff. In October he'll probably be switching his opinion and saying how he always thought Bell and Thomas would bring toughness.
 
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