Dreadnought
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I feel like Kings need a PG, and I only like Kyrie Irving from this upcoming draft (meaning we might not get a pick good enough for him/he doesn't enter the draft). Could make sense.
This year's 1st round pick for Ricky Rubio?
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I feel like Kings need a PG, and I only like Kyrie Irving from this upcoming draft (meaning we might not get a pick good enough for him/he doesn't enter the draft). Could make sense.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
I feel like Kings need a PG, and I only like Kyrie Irving from this upcoming draft (meaning we might not get a pick good enough for him/he doesn't enter the draft). Could make sense.
Dear lord no. For all the talk about Tyreke's struggle, Rubio has vanished into a cloud of being "meh" at best. I'd sooner trade the pick for Maynor than for the long-haired Pistola
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I feel like Kings need a PG, and I only like Kyrie Irving from this upcoming draft (meaning we might not get a pick good enough for him/he doesn't enter the draft). Could make sense.
It is difficult to express how poorly a player like Rubio would fit next to Reke, if he's even goign to be an NBA player at all. So let's just politely say no.
RookieOfTheDay
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I'd might do it if the pick is top 3 protected. Rubio's FG% is pretty low, so that's a concern. But If they added a few shooters like Redick and maybe Redd to the roster and just let Rubio run the point Rondo style, that could have a lot of potential.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Why in the world would you want Redd? He's a mere shell of his former self. For the life of me I don't understand the the infatuation with Rubio. How long would it be before people started calling for Rubios head? No one has any patience, or for that matter even understands how a team is built. And I'm not talking about you, but a lot of other clowns on this fourm. Insanity is starting to run rampant on this fourm, and I'm seriously thinking of leaving it. There's a lack of civility, and a lack of knowledge about basketball. I've been here for a while, and this is the worse I've ever seen it, and I just don't need the grief.
RookieOfTheDay
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Because he’s still a very good shooter and may be available fairly cheap. If he were picked up on say a 2 or 3 year contract, he could be an important role player in getting the Kings back to semi respectability.
Well I can’t speak for other people, but the way I see it, adding Rubio would be part of the rebuild. I think this team needs a true pass first point guard and from what I know of Rubio, that’s his M.O.
I’m still relatively new here so I don’t know what it was like in years past. But I can understand why fan frustration is at an all time high this year and surely that accounts for a lot of impetuous type of thinking and general lack of civility.
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I'd rather you didn't leave - then the terrorists would have won. Maybe we can point them to a different forum, and let them go bucknuts over there.
RookieOfTheDay
Starter
Like who, anyone in particular you had in mind?
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Mike Miller. Actually he's more of a SF, but he can play the 2.
RookieOfTheDay
Starter
I like Mike Miller but I don't think I'd give up a top pick for him. Maybe 5 years ago, but his numbers have been way down over the last few years.
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LWP777
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Bye
rhythmless
Starter
I know you're being facetious, but the mods will have your head for even suggesting there are other kings forums, much less point them to one. They are positively anal about that kind of stuff.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Unfortunately, Rubio is no Rondo.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
B..B...But Ricky Rubio's so dreamyy.
Seriously Baja, please don't go. We're bleeding sanity here!
RookieOfTheDay
Starter
Rondo was no Rondo either until he got the right team mates.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
In terms of the type of player that they are, they're two wholey different types of beasts (aside from both being pass first guards). Rubio has yet to have shown the insane motor that makes Rondo so good.
RookieOfTheDay
Starter
Well that's all I was referring to, the pass first thing. I'm no expert but if Tyreke isn't going to be the PG, then a pass first PG is what the Kings need. I'm not sure what's avaliabe in next year's draft, but even if there is a PG like that there's no guarantee of getting them. Odds of getting one in free agency are pretty slim too. With those things considered, Rubio seems like a pretty good option to me. Let's say for example that The Kings traded next year's pick and either Dalembert or Landry for Rubio. They'd basically be swapping a high pick for a high pick (Rubio) and throwing in an expendable player (Landry or Dalembert). Then they'd be set at C, and PG, and have Tyreke to boot. That would be a pretty good "big3" to go forward with.
I’m just basically throwing out ideas here because clearly what The Kings are doing now isn’t working. I don’t have the answers but I think that if acquiring Rubio is doable, it’s something The Kings should at least explore.
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Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
The thing is that just having a point guard who likes to pass isn't going to mean success. The PG would have to have a consistent stroke, something that Rubio is far from having, and be able to defend, another thing that Rubio hasn't really proven himself capable of doing on a consistent basis. Throw in the fact that Rubio has yet to have played a game in the NBA and you ultimately have something that I would not be willing to give away our lottery pick, which right now can't be worse than 4, and a solid role player (not necessarily for us) for. And it's tough to make an assertion that that we'd be set at PG with Rubio seeing as he has yet to have played an NBA game or fully proven himself capable. If it was Paul or something, then yes, we'd be set, but not when it's a 20-year-old moptopped rookie yet to have seen the hardwood on American turf.
RookieOfTheDay
Starter
Fair points but all of them would apply to whoever they may draft, too. In the draft you have to consider a player's ceiling/potential. The draft is always a gamble and basically, I just see Rubio as a draft pick who played Euro instead of college. If Rubio has a higher ceiling/potential than a guard they might, key word might get in the draft, then I think it makes good sense to pursue him. I know it isn't ideal, but nothing ever is when you're at the bottom. Honestly, what better options are on the Kings table?
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
That is a good question. Ar the same time, I'm not sure that Rubio's ceiling is all that great (knock on wood). He's a man with limited athleticism who at this point is famous for his youtube highlight reels and above average court vision (just how good it is is yet to be known). The draft is quite the conundrum but I have enough faith in Geoff Petrie's ability to discern talent that I'm willing to keep that pick instead of trade it off for a player that he passed on the first time around.
=LarryLegend=
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Kyrie Irving >> Ricky Rubio
Gary
All-Star
I know who we are going to take already.. Harrison Barnes. Kings will select 3rd and we will take Harrison Barnes and we will be pissed off that we drafted a guy who can't hit the side of a bard from 4pt land yet still for some reason likes to take them all the friggin time.
Then we will have a big argument here with people saying he can learn to shoot the 3 blah blah blah, and probably me alone saying he the kind of player who likes to create his own shot and would not fit with Evans, and how we needed a PG blah blah blah.. Then I will recommend we swap Barnes for Wes Johnson being that he CAN shoot outside, and does not worry about getting his own shot.
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Then we will have a big argument here with people saying he can learn to shoot the 3 blah blah blah, and probably me alone saying he the kind of player who likes to create his own shot and would not fit with Evans, and how we needed a PG blah blah blah.. Then I will recommend we swap Barnes for Wes Johnson being that he CAN shoot outside, and does not worry about getting his own shot.
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Sptsjunkie
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I'm intrigued by the prospect of Rubio and not anti-Rubio at all. I think he could turn out to be a fantastic NBA player, but I have 2 qualms with him for our team:
1 - He can't shoot. And as much as we need a true PG to get us into our offense, Reke and Cousins will still demand heavy usage and will control a lot of possessions, so I think any PG we put in with them needs to be a good shooter.
2 - We are also in a position, where we need to start improving sooner rather than later. I'm not advocating short term moves. However, if Rubio takes the standard 3 years to adjust to the NBA that a lot of European players have, that could really set back our franchise. I don't want to risk losing Reke and.or Cousins to free agency, so we need to start being competitive over the next two years. You are spot on about college players not being guarentees, but it is on Petrie to find the right talent and I trust him. Another college player we can get with a top 5 pick may have a similar ceiling to Rubio and be able to contribute immediatley. If we can sign/trade for a couple of good, veterans and get a rookie who can contribute immediately, we can start being a very competitive team as early as next season, which will help convince Reke and Cousins to sign extensions here.
Sptsjunkie
Starter
Hogwash Gary. You know as well as I do that scenario would require us to actually have the ping pong balls bounce in our favor and we both know there is an unwritten rule that the Kings can't pick higher than 4th
