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you mean a pass first pg will always get beaten by a team with a superstar?
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could be worse... try looking up the number of combo guards with rings...

you mean a pass first pg will always get beaten by a team with a superstar?
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you mean a pass first pg will always get beaten by a team with a superstar?
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Gary Payton did win one, but don't forget Tim Hardaway (8.2 APG), Kevin Johnson (9.1 APG), or Rod Strickland (7.3 APG). 3 more pass first point guards that didn't have enough around them to win the whole thing.Now that I think about it. You may have stumbled onto something. How many pure great pg's that average all these high number of assist have ever won a championship??? Look at some of them
John Stockton
Steve Nash
Chris Paul
Mark Jackson
Jason Kidd
Gary Payton
These are the cream of the crop for assist guys and some are the top ALL - TIME and non have ever won a championship. So yeah 10 ast guys are unable to win a championship.
I can think of 1 Isaiah Thomas
Billups was whatever? Oh, that's good. Real good. And blind.
I won't respond to most of that except the part about Martin being ball dominate. 15 attempts per game is hardly ball dominate.
^^^if petrie can somehow trade nocioni and beno we wouldnt have this problem with minutes... though is this in the right thread?
Wait so your in agreement with me??
And those 10 FTA per game are given to him by Santa?!I won't respond to most of that except the part about Martin being ball dominate. 15 attempts per game is hardly ball dominate.
And those 10 FTA per game are given to him by Santa?!![]()
And those 10 FTA per game are given to him by Santa?!![]()
I won't respond to most of that except the part about Martin being ball dominate. 15 attempts per game is hardly ball dominate.
Of course it can and thats part of the problem.cant the same be said for tyreke?
could be worse... try looking up the number of combo guards with rings...![]()
Dwyane Wade.
(If you stretch - maybe Magic Johnson)
AND... I think that's pretty much it.
The combo guard is a relatively new concept, I think it originated here with Bobby Jackson.
Dwyane Wade.
(If you stretch - maybe Magic Johnson)
More title teams than not for a lot of years have featured big guards that control the offense. What are Kobe and Jordan?
you mean a pass first pg will always get beaten by a team with a superstar?
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Dwyane Wade.
(If you stretch - maybe Magic Johnson)
AND... I think that's pretty much it.
The combo guard is a relatively new concept, I think it originated here with Bobby Jackson.
(just exercising the brain AM, not jabbing at you)
More title teams than not for a lot of years have featured big guards that control the offense. What are Kobe and Jordan?
Now that I think about it. You may have stumbled onto something. How many pure great pg's that average all these high number of assist have ever won a championship??? Look at some of them
John Stockton
Steve Nash
Chris Paul
Mark Jackson
Jason Kidd
Gary Payton
These are the cream of the crop for assist guys and some are the top ALL - TIME and non have ever won a championship. So yeah 10 ast guys are unable to win a championship.
I can think of 1 Isaiah Thomas
Dwyane Wade.
(If you stretch - maybe Magic Johnson)
AND... I think that's pretty much it.
The combo guard is a relatively new concept, I think it originated here with Bobby Jackson.
(just exercising the brain AM, not jabbing at you)
And if you took the ones who were in the finals and swapped them with the other teams PG. I bet the same team wins.
More title teams than not for a lot of years have featured big guards that control the offense. What are Kobe and Jordan?
thats an impressive list of pgs none of them are great pgs... nor were they the stars of their respective teams. tyreke evans is the star of this team and currently their leading scorer... out of the pgs on that list only parker can really claim to have been the star of their team at the time. even that is a stretch because tim duncan is the real star of the show. billups was whatever in his 2004 series. fisher? harper? armstrong? are you serious?
how many of those teams had hall of fame sgs that averaged about 5 assists per game? the bulls(jordan) and lakers(kobe) would occupy 10 of those 19 championship teams. tim duncan would have 4 of the remaining 9...
its funny that people actually use this as an argument against a pg that averages 10 assists a game(usually when that team doesnt have one). thats like saying that you wouldnt want chris paul as our pg because he averages 10 assists per game and hasnt won a ring yet.