Should Rick Adelman have been re-signed?

[Bricklayer]

Why didn't skinner ever play? Why did potopko never play in the spurs series, when last year he did very well against duncan while with seattle? Why did jason hart get to start over Ronnie price all year, when he showed next to nothing? Even when Ricks does have players who can play some D, he will not play them, bc he thinks of offense oriented players 1st. Tony Massenburg also, never played, and won a championship last year.

Gerald Wallace is 23 yrs old averages 16pts-close to 8rbs-shoots 54%, and averages like over 2stl and blocks a game. He had that potential this whole time and Rick never gave him the time of day, let him rot on the bench. He gets playing time and this is what he does. He does not develop young talent, Kevin only got playing time bc bonzi got hurt. That more than anything pisses me off about our ex coach. Worst of all we gave Gerald Away for nothing, zipp nadda.

A laundry list of your complaints, but a fairly random one. Also one that every fan has with every coach in the NBA.

a) Skinner -- this would be the closest to legit. Rick has shown an increasing distaaste for simple thuggish shotblockers. On the other hand, it was a numbers game. And Skinner was never as good as he was made out to be. He's never keyed anybody's defense, and he's a PF, not a C. Certainly no better than the guys ahead of him.
b) Potapenko? Is just not very good. Hasn't been a signifcant player in 7-8 years. And in case you missed it, we turned that series by going small ball and forcing the Spurs to match. Once we did that there wasn't even enough time for Brad/Kenny/Reef, let alone a seldom used bench big.
c) Jason Hart IS a defensive specialist. That's his whole shtick. As to why he got time over an undrafted rookie FA...that's somewhere down the irrelevancy pile along with why Ron decided to use a pen to change his shoe color upon arriving.
d) Tony Massenberg is a scrub, and bitched his way right out of Sacto. He got MORE time for Rick than he did while "winning a title" with the Spurs as the designated waterboy.
e) Rick did not let Wallace go for nothing. Petrie did with poor planning for that expansion draft. Never agreed with the handling of Wallace, but he got caught up in our pursuit of a title. Nor was he 16pts 8rebs etc. etc. until this year. He had potential. But it was off in the future.
f) Kevin did not DESERVE to be getting minutes, and here I must assume -- starting minutes?, until Bonzi went down. Kevin WAS in the rotation as the 7th man/firsdt OG/SF off the bench to start the season, and he fell on his face. Blaming a coach of a struggling team for failing to take the time to...start? or whatever his young late round draft pick that is shooting 35% from the field at the time instead of trying to right the ship and develop chemistry is classic 20/20 hindsight. There are roughly zero coaches in the NBA who do thqt.

 

[liketea]

Why Adelman needed to go imho...

1). To win it all, you need defense and intensity... two things Adelman just doesn't seem to do a good job of breeding.

2). In 8 years, Adelman has developed only 1 young player (Peja). Year after year, he's given bench minutes to veterans whether it's a short-term fill-in (like Jimmy Jackson or Massenburg) instead of rewarding youngsters with playing time. In contrast, look at what other teams have done to develop young players while maintaining success in the last several years (SA with Parker, Ginobili; Dallas with Howard, Harris; Phoenix with Diaw, Barbosa).

3). Adelman's rotation just sucks. For the past couple seasons, he's gone to a 7-man rotation with most starters logging in about 40minutes and 2 guys off the bench putting in a combined 45minutes or so. I believe the Kings have some of the least bench productions in the league... but it's not because of lack of talent. It's because Adelman does not know how to utilize his bench. I swear, I think Adelman sometimes simply forgets that he's allowed to rotate players in and out. I can't tell you how many times I saw situations where they could've brought in SAR or substituted in Skinner for Miller... yet Adelman's just standing there.

4). 8 years is simply a long time for any coach to stay at one place in the NBA. Especially for a guy who raises as many questions as Adelman, I think a change is good for both parties.


Mind you, not all is positive in terms of Adelman leaving. There's something to be said about having a player's coach. It's crucial that the next coach can coexist with and get the most out of Artest. But that is an uncertainty now that Adelman's gone.

 

[Team Dime]

Don't be blinded by a Time Bomb waiting to go off, A individual who has Delusions of grandeur about his Total game,A fool who you should be careful to follow. He Brought in a Breath of Fresh air, That can turn into a high Degree of Anthrax inhalation of you don't be careful with what you are Dealing with.



Defensively he helped the kings in a Area that they Badly needed teh energy to becoming Better and winning more Games. But i tell you this much if you think it wasn't because of the Freedom that Adleman encourages with his style of Coaching and system of basketball then you may suffer the Same Delusional mentality that Big Ron Ron sufffers from. The Dude needs a 24 hr psychologist to coach his Erratic Behaviour, He needs constant attention , The type of Attention that says your the Man Ron, Your like kobe bryant and Allen iverson, You are the leader. The coaching staff were Briefed on what type of Dude Ron Ron is and they were also Briefed on how he wanted more field goal attempts and wanted the Basket ball more in his Hands. He was blessed momentarily with the right basketball situation that fit him and his alter Ego's. Rick Adleman was the perfect coach for these personalities that Ron Ron has in his psychological makeup as a Basketball player.



Rick Carlise wasn't going to ever give Ron Ron that Green light and open offensive freedom to Be Mcrgady or Kobe Bryant like, This is what Ron wanted, He couldn't stand the stiff play calling and disciplined style of Offense, He wanted out because it was boring to him to not have the ball in his hands and not being able to create like Jordan and Bryant and the other Great 1 on 1 players in the game.He comes to Sacramneto, under a coach who gives freedom and open offense, Rick sits down with the moron and Tells him and his alter ego's that he knows he can play Defense, But he wants to make his Butt a better player all around particularly on the offensive End of the floor, Helping him to be a intaitor and distributer, rather than a Dump it down Brute post up player, Which he was Regulated in doing in Indiana.


This change of Scenary helped Ron and His various mood swings Become productive citizens of the basketball community and inspired him to change his out look and take on the open Responsibilties that he so craved being confined and Restricted of doing in Indiana. This couldn't have been accomplished with a Great popovich or larry Brown, Maybe a phil jackson but Defintely a Rick adleman Because of the type of Coach that he is.


Rick allowed Ron to Basically Dribble the shot clock off like a Kobe Bryant or allen iverson, He allowed him to shoot the ball through triple teams, Things that were forbidden to do in Indiana, But things that Ron artest and his mood Swings craved so Dearly, he found that chance in doing under adleman.


We can Trick ourselves into thinking that Rick played no Difference in the comback of the season if we want to, But the little intangible things will show up when Ron Ron goes Ballistic with a PJ or some other Defensive minded Guru strcict head coach come in here and Tells Ron, I don't want you going 1 on 5 anymore or Your not a point guard Ron, you don't have the same Game that kobe Bryant and McGrady have, Your Greastest weapon Ron Ron is your post up game, We don't want anymore of you Dribbling the Basketball like a Guard, We Run it this way in this system Ron. Watch what you will see the choker Head case Ron Ron come bacl alive, He isn't going to like the structure, Rick was the perfect coach for this type of Behaviour.



downplaying his recent shooting slump -- declaring that bad shots he takes should be shrugged off as if "Kobe or Tim Duncan or Michael Jordan" took them



I'm so demanding of the ball. It's not my fault," he said. "Every time somebody is on me it's a mismatch. It messes up the offense. I like Coach (Carlisle) as a person, but I don't like playing for Coach. I like my team, though."
The Pacers run a structured offense in which Carlisle calls out most plays. That frustrates Artest, who has complained about the system in the past.


Artest seeks a system in which he can score more, which would lead to a bigger contract when his expires in 2008. He has a player option for $8.5 million for the 2008-09 season.
"Here I don't think I'm going to have a chance to maximize my opportunity for my potential," he said. "When I first got here, all I wanted to do was play defense. I never really cared about offense, but what I see is players like Kobe (Bryant), Tracy (McGrady), (Gilbert) Arenas and Jermaine (O'Neal) getting the opportunity to maximize their potential on the court and to get paid. I'm out of my character a little bit here.
"I don't think I'm going to maximize my opportunity just playing defense. I have to show I'm one of the premier players on offense on the wing. So when it's that time, there's no question what type of player I am."


He says it all there, He can play Defense and Bring that Defensive intensity to any team that he is apart of, But his Frustration and mood Swings had to do allot with the system and How he views himself as a player, He feels he's on the level offensively like kobe and others, He just doesn't want to play Defense and post up in a structured flow. Pj or whoever you may think is the Better coach will have Ron right back To the style of play he Dreaded playing, This can be something to Really pay attention to.


Truthfully his game isn't built like a kobe Bryant or McGrady

I think it's way too early and there are way too many emotions to tell right now whether not resigning Adelman was a good decision or not. By far, the biggest question mark will be whether or not the new coach will be able to keep Artest happy. Who knows for sure at this point? However, in Indy Artest had to compete with O'Neal to be the star of the team, while this is clearly Artest's team now (Bibby and everyone else are happy to follow his lead). Time will tell on this decision, not early to say now.

 

[shaka zulu]

I think it's way too early and there are way too many emotions to tell right now whether not resigning Adelman was a good decision or not. By far, the biggest question mark will be whether or not the new coach will be able to keep Artest happy. Who knows for sure at this point? However, in Indy Artest had to compete with O'Neal to be the star of the team, while this is clearly Artest's team now (Bibby and everyone else are happy to follow his lead). Time will tell on this decision, not early to say now.

It may be too early, But the facts say Ron wants to be not just the leader ,Which Jermaine was in Indiana, But he wants to be this 1 on 1 slashing with the Dribble type of player, Which he is Totally not, He is quick for his size, He can handle the ball somewhat for his size, But he's not a kobe T-mac type of player, He doesn't have the knife quickeness with the dribble that those Guys have, He can Create off the Dribble, But it's more of a Box style, than him to be able to move you side to side 180 and 360 like Kobe or T-mac, But yeah it's Early and We will have to wait and See what coach they Bring in, but if they want one of the coaches that are rumored to take over, Then we can Forget about Ron doing his Kobe Bryant impersonation Act and As a Result i feel he will be Frustrated with his Role.

 

[kingsfan916]

yes

 

[Ryle]

Adelman's rotation just sucks. For the past couple seasons, he's gone to a 7-man rotation with most starters logging in about 40minutes and 2 guys off the bench putting in a combined 45minutes or so. I believe the Kings have some of the least bench productions in the league... but it's not because of lack of talent. It's because Adelman does not know how to utilize his bench. I swear, I think Adelman sometimes simply forgets that he's allowed to rotate players in and out. I can't tell you how many times I saw situations where they could've brought in SAR or substituted in Skinner for Miller... yet Adelman's just standing there.

I'm convinced that if Bonzi was healthy we would have not seen the emergence of Kevin Martin this year. In Adelmans world he would have his starting 5 play 48 minutes a game.

 

[Bricklayer]

I'm convinced that if Bonzi was healthy we would have not seen the emergence of Kevin Martin this year. In Adelmans world he would have his starting 5 play 48 minutes a game.

Yes indeedy, because that was what all his starters always did right?

I mean after another year led by the #22 (Bibby) and #33 (Brad) players in the league in minutes, how do the guys possibly survive the inhumanity?

One of those little pop culture myths that has never born particular relation to reality.

 

[Gary]

No, he should not have been re-signed.

I am excited about the move. I feel he overworked his starters (this year being the exception), and I feel how he handled the bench players in situations of injury was subpar. A bench player would get injured and upon returning he would be our new 12th man.

ABCDEFG (pretend this is our bench)
A gets Injured so in comes B. When A returns it looks like this.
BCDEFGA

This year re: the rookie (Garcia), and Martin I feel he did better, but one year does not make up for 7 years of wasting talent, or letting talent rot away.

Think if we had Hedo, and Wallace still on the team....

Bibby #19 in minutes
Artest #10 in minutes

 

[R1LOVER]

I think if this poll was done before the news of him being fired, it would have been a little different. The media has made people feel sorry for him. ie: saying he was fired and so on..... his contract expired is all.......... and they chse not to re-new it.

 

[DaMan]

I don't want to start this into a pissing match but was anyone watching this team at the beginning of the year

They didn't care about playing and Adelman had completely lost them. Artest comes and kicks everyone in the *** and all of the sudden Adelman can coach again??? Please, one man saved this team this year and it's #93

I totally agree with u, I will miss the guy but we need somebody else.

 

[Magruder]

Yes indeedy, because that was what all his starters always did right?

I mean after another year led by the #22 (Bibby) and #33 (Brad) players in the league in minutes, how do the guys possibly survive the inhumanity?

One of those little pop culture myths that has never born particular relation to reality.

Dude, you are homerism to the max. Ban me if you want, but your posts REEK of homerism. Brad and Mike are both jumpshooters, and jumpshots are 70% legs. When you play these players too many minutes, they breakdown physically. Brad is never to be mistaken as being in good physical shape, and there are players (potapenko, Skinner) who could have done a decent job spelling him during the season so that he could have been fresh for the playoffs. Adelman demanded too much of his starters, and you can whine all you want about Martin "not deserving" minutes, but someone with a fragile ego such as Kev needs to be coddled to mature correctly. Adelman will always be a great regular season coach, becuz he gets everything that he can from his players DURING that time. How many minutes you think Duncan avgd during the reg. season? And defending JHart is plain LUDICROUS. Price has WWAAYY more potential, and he is so much more athletic he could actually finish at the rim instead of getting rejected all the time. Hart is a backup pg avging 1, count that, 1 freaking assist. I guarantee you Price would have played as good defensively, thanks to his athleticism.

 

[Cozmosis]

I say no, but if the replacement is Don Nelson - I'd rather have Rick.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

Dude, you are homerism to the max. Ban me if you want, but your posts REEK of homerism...

Nah, don't ban him for calling you a homer, Brick... ban him because anybody that asks to be banned ought to be obliged...

 

[VF21]

Dude, you are homerism to the max. Ban me if you want, but your posts REEK of homerism. Brad and Mike are both jumpshooters, and jumpshots are 70% legs. When you play these players too many minutes, they breakdown physically. Brad is never to be mistaken as being in good physical shape, and there are players (potapenko, Skinner) who could have done a decent job spelling him during the season so that he could have been fresh for the playoffs. Adelman demanded too much of his starters, and you can whine all you want about Martin "not deserving" minutes, but someone with a fragile ego such as Kev needs to be coddled to mature correctly. Adelman will always be a great regular season coach, becuz he gets everything that he can from his players DURING that time. How many minutes you think Duncan avgd during the reg. season? And defending JHart is plain LUDICROUS. Price has WWAAYY more potential, and he is so much more athletic he could actually finish at the rim instead of getting rejected all the time. Hart is a backup pg avging 1, count that, 1 freaking assist. I guarantee you Price would have played as good defensively, thanks to his athleticism.

Erm, two questions...

1. What the hell makes you think Kevin Martin has a fragile ego?

2. Do you really want to be banned? (Because if you do, I will be oh so happy to oblige.)

 

[Magruder]

Erm, two questions...

1. What the hell makes you think Kevin Martin has a fragile ego?

2. Do you really want to be banned? (Because if you do, I will be oh so happy to oblige.)

1. He plays much better when he doesn't have to spend his time looking over his shoulder at the bench to see if he is going to be pulled for making a mistake, same with Garcia, its just a young player thing (unless you are Kobe, then you have TOO MUCH confidence even as a young player becuz you know the future of your team is riding on how well you handle pressure)

2. I know you would.

 

[beemerr23]

And now answer me this Captain Obvious -- how many other coaches has Ron performed that well under? How many other coaches has Ron been happy and sane under? Ron needed space and confidence from his coach. He got it, and so he performed. Very few coaches have that gift -- most have to make it about themselves.

Aww that's so nice, Rick Adelman is a "players coach" who doesn't care if you're lazy and play bad defense. It's ok, just focus on your strengths, you'll be fine. Again to restate what's already been said, Ron was a changed man coming INTO Sacramento, Rick didn't just magically change him into some great person.

 

[Magruder]

Aww that's so nice, Rick Adelman is a "players coach" who doesn't care if you're lazy and play bad defense. It's ok, just focus on your strengths, you'll be fine. Again to restate what's already been said, Ron was a changed man coming INTO Sacramento, Rick didn't just magically change him into some great person.

Right on! We need to put you in Brad becuz your offense (9.2 pts, 3 reb) is so valuable to us winning this game, not KT or Reef's defense on TD, LOL.

 

[Magruder]

Poll results: 113 Homers to 36 REALISTS.

 

[beemerr23]

What Magruder is saying about Martin is that he would've never gotten any minutes like he did while Bonzi was injured because Adelman sticks with his core throughout the whole regular season. This is why you see so many injuries occuring: Reef, Bonzi, Peja, the list goes on. This is also why you see an undeveloped bench and us struggling in the playoffs when we need it the most. He is right about Martin and other new players having a fragile ego, you think too much about your actions when you're given limited playing time, but since Martin was racking up 35+ minutes a game while Bonzi was out, he wasn't hesitant to jack up shots or be flashy. That boosted his confidence ten fold, so yes, he had a fragile ego to start the season, definitely.

 

[beemerr23]

Right on! We need to put you in Brad becuz your offense (9.2 pts, 3 reb) is so valuable to us winning this game, not KT or Reef's defense on TD, LOL.

Lol yeah, that was definitely a mistake on Adelman's part. Duncan scored in three straight possession on us to win Game 5, when it was tied at 93-93 when we made the surge with SHAREEF in. When Reef or KT play Timmy, they actually body him so it's harder for him to get the ball in the post. Oh well, sometimes coaches go with their favorites.

 

[R1LOVER]

I agree................

 

[shaka zulu]

Aww that's so nice, Rick Adelman is a "players coach" who doesn't care if you're lazy and play bad defense. It's ok, just focus on your strengths, you'll be fine. Again to restate what's already been said, Ron was a changed man coming INTO Sacramento, Rick didn't just magically change him into some great person.

He was a changed man because he felt like he had the upper hand, He stalled with the idea of Coming to sacramento, The maloofs still insisted on the Idea, he was supposed to be accomadated with whatever he wanted, He knew what type of Coach Rick aldeman was and the maloofs knew what they had with adleman and the way his coaching personality was.


Rick sat down with Ron ron and told him that he was going to help him expand his game, Give him the basketball and allow him to make plays for others, Something he just 3 months ago expressed was his Desires to do.



I'm so demanding of the ball. It's not my fault," he said. "Every time somebody is on me it's a mismatch. It messes up the offense. I like Coach (Carlisle) as a person, but I don't like playing for Coach. I like my team, though."
The Pacers run a structured offense in which Carlisle calls out most plays. That frustrates Artest, who has complained about the system in the past.


Artest seeks a system in which he can score more, which would lead to a bigger contract when his expires in 2008. He has a player option for $8.5 million for the 2008-09 season.
"Here I don't think I'm going to have a chance to maximize my opportunity for my potential," he said. "When I first got here, all I wanted to do was play defense. I never really cared about offense, but what I see is players like Kobe (Bryant), Tracy (McGrady), (Gilbert) Arenas and Jermaine (O'Neal) getting the opportunity to maximize their potential on the court and to get paid. I'm out of my character a little bit here.
"I don't think I'm going to maximize my opportunity just playing defense. I have to show I'm one of the premier players on offense on the wing. So when it's that time, there's no question what type of player I am."


He was a changed Man because he was accomadated with His preffered style of play.

 

[beemerr23]

Poll results: 113 Homers to 36 REALISTS.

It's obvious to fans of basketball, who like the Kings, that the right decision was made.

 

[Magruder]

What Magruder is saying about Martin is that he would've never gotten any minutes like he did while Bonzi was injured because Adelman sticks with his core throughout the whole regular season. This is why you see so many injuries occuring: Reef, Bonzi, Peja, the list goes on. This is also why you see an undeveloped bench and us struggling in the playoffs when we need it the most. He is right about Martin and other new players having a fragile ego, you think too much about your actions when you're given limited playing time, but since Martin was racking up 35+ minutes a game while Bonzi was out, he wasn't hesitant to jack up shots or be flashy. That boosted his confidence ten fold, so yes, he had a fragile ego to start the season, definitely.

I know this might be tough for other people to comprehend Beemer, but being out on the court and not having to worry if you are going to be pulled out for making a simple mistake (like ANY member of the starting 5 under Adelman) is HUGE. But having to look over your shoulder the whole time plays mindgames with you. Remember folks, Martin was the star at Western Carolina, and there is a very big reason for that.

edit:
which is where Garcia ALMOST was before his ankle injury, and then he was right back on the hotseat (and behind Hart on the depth chart) when he returned from his injury.

 

[Kings2805]

A laundry list of your complaints, but a fairly random one. Also one that every fan has with every coach in the NBA.

a) Skinner -- this would be the closest to legit. Rick has shown an increasing distaste for simple thuggish shotblockers. On the other hand, it was a numbers game. And Skinner was never as good as he was made out to be. He's never keyed anybody's defense, and he's a PF, not a C. Certainly no better than the guys ahead of him.
b) Potapenko? Is just not very good. Hasn't been a signifcant player in 7-8 years. And in case you missed it, we turned that series by going small ball and forcing the Spurs to match. Once we did that there wasn't even enough time for Brad/Kenny/Reef, let alone a seldom used bench big.
c) Jason Hart IS a defensive specialist. That's his whole shtick. As to why he got time over an undrafted rookie FA...that's somewhere down the irrelevancy pile along with why Ron decided to use a pen to change his shoe color upon arriving.
d) Tony Massenberg is a scrub, and bitched his way right out of Sacto. He got MORE time for Rick than he did while "winning a title" with the Spurs as the designated waterboy.
e) Rick did not let Wallace go for nothing. Petrie did with poor planning for that expansion draft. Never agreed with the handling of Wallace, but he got caught up in our pursuit of a title. Nor was he 16pts 8rebs etc. etc. until this year. He had potential. But it was off in the future.
f) Kevin did not DESERVE to be getting minutes, and here I must assume -- starting minutes?, until Bonzi went down. Kevin WAS in the rotation as the 7th man/firsdt OG/SF off the bench to start the season, and he fell on his face. Blaming a coach of a struggling team for failing to take the time to...start? or whatever his young late round draft pick that is shooting 35% from the field at the time instead of trying to right the ship and develop chemistry is classic 20/20 hindsight. There are roughly zero coaches in the NBA who do thqt.

A: Yea he only averaged like 8pts, 9rbs, and like close to 2 blocks a game b4 the thumb injuries, and was completely healthy, but just sat on the bench with lots of DNP CD.

B: Wait who took over in game 5 with 3 minutes to go? Who was the center rountinely getting outhuslted, outmuscled and embaressed by 6'1 pgs? It was Miller, and don't tell me an interior presence of some sort wasn't the difference between us winning and losing. He played Duncan well last year, that is all I was saying. Don't be fooled by small ball, Duncan Still averaged 18.3 pts, shot 61%, and averaged 9.2rbs plus over a block a game. He was effective and in some games completely took over.

C. Right, a very good defensive specialist, was he in the defensive player of the year race? Ne ways-hart in like 10-15 minutes would play like crap, ronnie in like 4-5 minutes would hit a 3 or two, have a rebound, steal. He has very quick feet good rotations and gets on his man. He deserved way more time, but Rick Loves to let good young talent rot on the bench.

D: He was mad bc he didn't get playing time, and he was left off the playoff roster. He called the Kings a bunch of softies or something of that nature, which is what artest and the Maloofs are changing. We are going more hard core, defensive minded tough guys, then nice guys who feel pressured and choke in crucial situations. How can you still feel this way after 8 straight years of failure to win the MAIN PRIZE:NBA CHAMPIONSHIP

E.) So when we let him go in the 04-05 season for the expansion draft, and kept people like ERIK DANIELS instead, just goes to show you how stupid a decision that was. In 3 years with the Kings Gerald Wallace got a combined minute total of 1,338 minutes. Then you divide that number by 3 for the number of seasons and that goes to 446 minutes a year average. Then we go 446 and divide that by 82 games and it equals 5.43 minutes a game. For example this season alone Kevin Marting got 1,913 minutes in one season and it is still 600 more than what Gerald got in 3 damn seasons. Players don't develop without playing time, plain and simple, no reason to argue my theory, it is proven. I agree 2004-2005 was big run for the title, huh brick


F.) Kevin stated the reason why he struggled is because if he made one mistake, he knew he was going out of the game. But when Bonzi was injured he knew he was the starter, and could play through the mistake, with no fear of penalty from the coach. That was why he struggled early, is it fun knowing if you mess up once, your done and through? NO, I think not, Bonzis injury was a blessing in disguise, it helped Kevin develop into the player, that Rick kept from the world, from lack of playing time. How many 1st round picks beyond the last 2 picks(martin,garcia) are with the team? And of those players who went onto successful careers once they got the playing time to develop, that Sacramento Prohibited, because of loyalty to veterans and starters, plain and simple!

 

[beemerr23]

He was a changed Man because he was accomadated with His preffered style of play.

He was a changed man coming INTO Sacramento, he didn't become this awesome leader who has great qualities because of the style of play. That may have influenced it while he was here, but I remember the press conference before he came here he said he wanted to prove people wrong and it's a new start for him. Ugh, I'm so tired of people saying Rick changed him, he did it himself. Like I think Magruder said, I specifically remember Adelman saying "I didn't choose to bring him here" subliminally implying "I don't want him here." Adelman was quick to judge, but once everyone saw the changes Artest made, everyone grew fond of him. He's a great leader now and shows great qualities because of the strides he has made Himself.

 

[Magruder]

A: Yea he only averaged like 8pts, 9rbs, and like close to 2 blocks a game b4 the thumb injuries, and was completely healthy, but just sat on the bench with lots of DNP CD.

B: Wait who took over in game 5 with 3 minutes to go? Who was the center rountinely getting outhuslted, outmuscled and embaressed by 6'1 pgs? It was Miller, and don't tell me an interior presence of some sort wasn't the difference between us winning and losing. He played Duncan well last year, that is all I was saying. Don't be fooled by small ball, Duncan Still averaged 18.3 pts, shot 61%, and averaged 9.2rbs plus over a block a game. He was effective and in some games completely took over.

C. Right, a very good defensive specialist, was he in the defensive player of the year race? Ne ways-hart in like 10-15 minutes would play like crap, ronnie in like 4-5 minutes would hit a 3 or two, have a rebound, steal. He has very quick feet good rotations and gets on his man. He deserved way more time, but Rick Loves to let good young talent rot on the bench.

D: He was mad bc he didn't get playing time, and he was left off the playoff roster. He called the Kings a bunch of softies or something of that nature, which is what artest and the Maloofs are changing. We are going more hard core, defensive minded tough guys, then nice guys who feel pressured and choke in crucial situations. How can you still feel this way after 8 straight years of failure to win the MAIN PRIZE:NBA CHAMPIONSHIP

E.) So when we let him go in the 04-05 season for the expansion draft, and kept people like ERIK DANIELS instead, just goes to show you how stupid a decision that was. In 3 years with the Kings Gerald Wallace got a combined minute total of 1,338 minutes. Then you divide that number by 3 for the number of seasons and that goes to 446 minutes a year average. Then we go 446 and divide that by 82 games and it equals 5.43 minutes a game. For example this season alone Kevin Marting got 1,913 minutes in one season and it is still 600 more than what Gerald got in 3 damn seasons. Players don't develop without playing time, plain and simple, no reason to argue my theory, it is proven. I agree 2005-2005 was big run for the title, huh brick


F.) Kevin stated the reason why he struggled is because if he made one mistake, he knew he was going out of the game. But when Bonzi was injured he knew he was the starter, and could play through the mistake, with no fear of penalty from the coach. That was why he struggled early, is it fun knowing if you mess up once, your done and through? NO, I think not, Bonzis injury was a blessing in disguise, it helped Kevin develop into the player, that Rick kept from the world, from lack of playing time. How many 1st round picks beyond the last 2 picks(martin,garcia) are with the team? And of those players who went onto successful careers once they got the playing time to develop, that Sacramento Prohibited, because of loyalty to veterans and starters, plain and simple!

DUDE, RIGHT ON! Perfect assessment, bro.

 

[Bricklayer]

Aww that's so nice, Rick Adelman is a "players coach" who doesn't care if you're lazy and play bad defense. It's ok, just focus on your strengths, you'll be fine. Again to restate what's already been said, Ron was a changed man coming INTO Sacramento, Rick didn't just magically change him into some great person.

No, Rick gave him the ROOM to be his "new person". Ron doesn't respond well to being pressured, bossed around, or excessively controlled. You bring in somebody who squeezes Ron, and you'll see "bad" Ron soon enough.

 

[VF21]

It's obvious to fans of basketball, who like the Kings, that the right decision was made.

you've just used up your last free pass.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

It's obvious to fans of basketball, who like the Kings, that the right decision was made.

Say what now?

Where do you get off accusing me of not being a fan of basketball? Or that I don't like the Kings? Who the **** do you think you are?