San Antonio vs. Detroit - NBA Finals

Who wins NBA Championship?

  • Pistons

    Votes: 34 34.7%
  • Spurs

    Votes: 64 65.3%

  • Total voters
    98
VF21 said:
I watched the game. I didn't see any particular bias towards the Spurs. What I saw was a hustling team get the calls they deserved and a whining team that didn't look anything like the EC champions fouling with abandon and - in some cases - frustration.

The Pistons do not look good and by the end of the game they looked disheartened and uninspired.
Not what I wanted to hear about the Pistons. Yes, I picked them to win the Finals, but truly have nothing riding on that prediction. At this point, I just want to watch a competitive Finals for the last few games of the 2004-2005 NBA season.
 
I wounder who is tradeble on Pistons now. I am sure we could get some talent from them by tradeing Bobby Jackson to them. Bobby JAckson is what they need a good back up guard. Maybe Darko
 
AleksandarN said:
I wounder who is tradeble on Pistons now. I am sure we could get some talent from them by tradeing Bobby Jackson to them. Bobby JAckson is what they need a good back up guard. Maybe Darko
No chance the Pistons trade Darko at this point --- they'd be admitting failure, and if LB is out of Detroit after this year, that will give Dumars a chance to bring in a coach that will commit to developing Darko. For some reason or another, Big Ben seems to be showing signs or wear and tear. Darko could probably use some minutes.

Shame of the thing about Darko is that if he is indeed as talented as all of those pundits made him out to be two years ago, he's wasting away on the bench and not being developed, and the Pistons may be trying to force a square peg into a round hole by putting him at PF or C. I'm not saying he could be the next Dirk or anything, but it wouldn't hurt to at least give the guy some time at some point next year. I understand not giving him time on a championship level team, but if the Pistons don't succeed in digging themselves out of this 0-2 hole they're in, they need to start developing Darko. Trading him for bench fodder would seem like a give-in at this point, and I don't see Dumars doing that.
 

Bricklayer

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AleksandarN said:
I wounder who is tradeble on Pistons now. I am sure we could get some talent from them by tradeing Bobby Jackson to them. Bobby JAckson is what they need a good back up guard. Maybe Darko
I would do that move in an instant just on potential alone -- 32yr old injury prone guard for young #2 pick in the draft? Sounds vaguely familiar. :) But I agree that it seems doubtful. The defending champions in the Finals for the second year in a row still isn't necessarily where I would turn for a franchise in meltdown. Nonetheless, if Joe thinks he still has a championship core in Detroit, then other than Darko he is pretty much out of trading pieces to add to those core guys, and Bobby would be the absolutely perfect guy to come in and give them that toughness and spark.
 
the "ESPN Experts" are looking like fools again. They keep saying the Detrioty will win, detriot will win over and over every game. When are they going to open their eyes and close their pie holes and realize that the Spurs are alot better then every team in the league?? We've known this all freaking year.
 
In fairness to the "ESPN Experts" regardless of what they might really think they do need to try to generate fan interest and an audience, that it will be a contest. After all the only team that can draw a crowd whether they are great or suck is the soap opera known as the LA Lakers.
 
The series is not over yet. While I will admit that the Pistons are not showing that they can even contend in this series yet. I say YET because I still hold out hope that the Detroit Pistons will show up now. SA is a fantastic team. Last night, the 3 ptrs. were incredible. You can't ask for a better game from SA than last night. They beat them at everything. Detroit looked foolish out there. Teyshaun's play was non-existent. We didn't see enough out of Chauncey or Ben. Rip was trying. You could see him trying but it wasn't enough. It was a hard game to watch but I am not loosing hope yet. If LB can get these guys to focus and Chauncey leads them, we all know what kind of force they be. We shall see.
 
slugking50 said:
the "ESPN Experts" are looking like fools again. They keep saying the Detrioty will win, detriot will win over and over every game. When are they going to open their eyes and close their pie holes and realize that the Spurs are alot better then every team in the league?? We've known this all freaking year.
Exactly. Than you SlugKing. All I keep reading on the board is 'Detroit isnt playing Detroit basketball'. Actually they are. Its just not enough against the Spurs. SA will steal one in Detroit to come back and finish them off in game 6.
 
LB's complaining about the officiating. I didn't see it so I don't know but apparantly when Crawford and another ref.( I can't remember his name, sorry) are in their games there's quite a discrepancy in the results. Something like 1-11 or 18-4 if they're not there. LB seems to think they're biased and when I saw those numbers I might be inclined to agree with him
 
loopymitch said:
LB's complaining about the officiating. I didn't see it so I don't know but apparantly when Crawford and another ref.( I can't remember his name, sorry) are in their games there's quite a discrepancy in the results. Something like 1-11 or 18-4 if they're not there. LB seems to think they're biased and when I saw those numbers I might be inclined to agree with him
Good for LB. Even if his team deserved to get out free throwed by a 34 to 15 margin in game 2, it doesn't hurt to make some noise about it in hopes that his team might get a couple extra calls around the basket if/when his players are driving the ball. Of course, after the Pistons went 3 for 8 in the first quarter (with three of those misses by guys not named Ben Wallace), it didn't look as if they were going to take advantage of any opportunities anyway.
 
Bibby_10 said:
Exactly. Than you SlugKing. All I keep reading on the board is 'Detroit isnt playing Detroit basketball'. Actually they are. Its just not enough against the Spurs. SA will steal one in Detroit to come back and finish them off in game 6.
Granted, it might have just a little to do with Bowen's defense, but Rip shooting *so* poorly in the first two games is not Pistons' basketball. Neither is Tayshaun disappearing for two straight games. Both of those things will have to change for the Pistons to even be able to compete in game 3.
 

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4cwebb said:
Good for LB. Even if his team deserved to get out free throwed by a 34 to 15 margin in game 2, it doesn't hurt to make some noise about it in hopes that his team might get a couple extra calls around the basket if/when his players are driving the ball. Of course, after the Pistons went 3 for 8 in the first quarter (with three of those misses by guys not named Ben Wallace), it didn't look as if they were going to take advantage of any opportunities anyway.
No offense to you personally, but to your comment I must say bullbleep! If LB has to whine publicly in the hopes that "his team might get a couple extra calls" then that is truly pathetic.

The Pistons have been outplayed, outhustled, outsmarted and outcoached. These were blowouts - the last time a team won the first two games of the finals by more than 15 points each was in 1951. It was, incidentally, the Rochester Royals who did it.

Brown needs to quit looking for obscure statistics about officiating and start figuring out a way to play better than the San Antonio Spurs. I don't think it's gonna happen...
 

Bricklayer

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This was where Rick pissed me off in the Seattle series with his complaints about the big meanie Seattle boys playing too rough. As a player, a fan, whatever -- just let me lose with my dignity intact.
 
Bricklayer said:
This was where Rick pissed me off in the Seattle series with his complaints about the big meanie Seattle boys playing too rough. As a player, a fan, whatever -- just let me lose with my dignity intact.
Filing an official "complaint" with the league about rough play in the playoffs is like advertising to everyone how soft your team is. My disdain for Adelman tripled after I read that.
 

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Ryle said:
My disdain for Adelman tripled after I read that.
What is three times "Hate infinity"?

Come on, Ryle. We all know the truth. Your disdain couldn't possibly have tripled. I think it reached optimum overload a long time ago.

;)
 
I think I'm just mad because the Maloofs not only raised my ticket prices.....again, but now parking is going up from $8 to $10!!!!


I can't wait to sit down with my $20 beer and $10 King Dog on opening night :mad:
 
Insomniacal Fan said:
Maybe if you hate him enough, your hate buffer will overflow... you will have hated him so much that you begin to love him.
Cue Chrissie Hind and The Pretenders....''It's a thin line, between love and hate''

(too long ago...? nevermind) :)
 
Insomniacal Fan said:
Maybe if you hate him enough, your hate buffer will overflow... you will have hated him so much that you begin to love him.
Thats what happened with me and Shaq... or it could be the fact that he isnt wearing Yellow and Purple because for some reason all I heared coming out of his mouth then was nonsense; now I laugh at his jokes/humor.
 

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Ryle said:
I think I'm just mad because the Maloofs not only raised my ticket prices.....again, but now parking is going up from $8 to $10!!!!


I can't wait to sit down with my $20 beer and $10 King Dog on opening night :mad:
And don't forget about those great Pepsi commercials on the jumbo screen that you've PAID to watch!!!

Sorry, Ryle... I'm teasing a little but only out of compassion. In a way, I'm glad I live up here because I don't know how I would be able to afford season's tickets if I still lived in Sacramento and NOT having them would be very hard to accept, even with the TV deals in place.
 

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Londonking said:
Cue Chrissie Hind and The Pretenders....''It's a thin line, between love and hate''

(too long ago...? nevermind) :)
Too long ago? Au contraire, mon ami. Some of us are more than old enough for the reference.

;)
 

VF21

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The price of the tickets depends on the location. If you want two seats on Kings Row, for example, the going price last year was $895 EACH! That comes out to $73,390 for the whole season.
 
VF21 said:
The price of the tickets depends on the location. If you want two seats on Kings Row, for example, the going price last year was $895 EACH! That comes out to $73,390 for the whole season.
I wonder what they were in 2002 for the Lakers series. My moms friend Paul who lives up in Sacramento has season tickets like 6th row or something (real close and center court opposite team benches) and he would be asked (along with people around him) if the Celebs could buy his seats but if not he would sell one of both of his seats for around $10,000+ each for one game. Once he sold his tickets for 1-2 games he had his season ticket money paid for, for that year so he had gone to all the home games for free in a way. Those were the good ol' days. :)

Edit: When I say he sold them for $10,000 per game Im referring to Kings-Lakers playoff games. Regular season games were face value when he sold them.
 
VF21 said:
The price of the tickets depends on the location. If you want two seats on Kings Row, for example, the going price last year was $895 EACH! That comes out to $73,390 for the whole season.



I think they said section 212.