Sacramento Kings begin search for GM (merged)

rhythmless said:
Pop is the president and coach. Buford is the GM. There is no stepping down as president here in terms of Spurs basketball. To give you some perspective, Petrie is the President and Wayne Cooper is the GM for the Kings.

You may be confusing his title of President of Sports Franchises. He is president over their NBDL, WNBA, and AHL teams. For NBA basketball though, he is the GM.

Again, the only possibility of Buford coming here is that he wants a new challenge and/or he would like some more power to make basketball decisions without a Popovich to approve. I am assuming if he were to come on, he would take over Petrie's position, which is technically a promotion.
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Make him President & Chief of all basketball operations. Give him a percentage in the team. And he can always design his own office in the new arena.:D
 
NewArena said:
Great saying and all, but it doesn't really apply here. Peter wasn't just guessing or throwing things against the wall. None of us knew about the trade before he broke the story. We all deemed it to be a possibility, but i remember him coming out of nowhere with "The deal is exceedingly close".
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Vescey has had infallible inside sources hundreds of times throughout the last 20 something years and hits on <5% of them.

I suspect he nails the Kings GM and coach too as it really is a logical conclusion knowing our new owner.
 
Wallace mentioned again as coming in for an interview in the next couple of days, so have to assume that's a real interest there too. Apparently already interviewed the Golden State underling, but he's a known quantity.

Might have to take a closer look at Wallace's career. The thing is of course that 4 years ago he was considered a joke, laughed at a David Kahn!!!! level. The Big Three featured flubs that got him that rep were trading away Pau Gasol for what were thought to be peanuts; drafting Love and trading him for Mayo (too a while for that to be seen as dumb), and drafting Thabeet (over Evans btw). That's not even mentioning 10 undistinguished years as GM in Boston, which he kicked off by trading Joe Johnson for Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers (a move BTW which I oopsed on myself, not thinking Johnson had much potential -- remember having the discussion with JSin).

Here's the thing though: as it turns out Pau for peanuts turned out to be Pau for Marc Gasol. And Marc Gasol is part of a WCF frontline and the DPOY. The question of course is whether Wallace could really have predicted that or not, but longterm, that deal is no longer unbalanced. Thabeet (who I also missed on) was notoriously the result of some Maloofian interference from owner Michael Heisley. The basketball staff wasn't sold on him. Love for Mayo was no excuses, although as mentioned after their rookie years people were laughing at Minny for that one saying that Memphis actually got the better of it. Dumb people. But still, people.

Meanwhile Wallace put together a rough tough big man oriented defensive crew. Brought in Tony Allen, who I think he had drafted in Boston. Brought in Zach Randolph, which of course could make him a natural fit for making it work with Boogie. The Rudy Gay for Battier steal was done the year before he arrived in Memphis, so that wasn't him. And its not entirely clear if he was the main mover behind drafting Mike Conley -- he took over as GM a few days before that draft. So it was his call, but he may have relied on staff, who knows. There are things that have worked. But its hard to trust one of the few GMs I can think of who has actually traded away three perennial All Star/franchise level players in Johnson, Pau and Love.
 
Bricklayer said:
Wallace mentioned again as coming in for an interview in the next couple of days, so have to assume that's a real interest there too. Apparently already interviewed the Golden State underling, but he's a known quantity.

Might have to take a closer look at Wallace's career. The thing is of course that 4 years ago he was considered a joke, laughed at a David Kahn!!!! level. The Big Three featured flubs that got him that rep were trading away Pau Gasol for what were thought to be peanuts; drafting Love and trading him for Mayo (too a while for that to be seen as dumb), and drafting Thabeet (over Evans btw). That's not even mentioning 10 undistinguished years as GM in Boston, which he kicked off by trading Joe Johnson for Tony Delk and Rodney Rogers (a move BTW which I oopsed on myself, not thinking Johnson had much potential -- remember having the discussion with JSin).

Here's the thing though: as it turns out Pau for peanuts turned out to be Pau for Marc Gasol. And Marc Gasol is part of a WCF frontline and the DPOY. The question of course is whether Wallace could really have predicted that or not, but longterm, that deal is no longer unbalanced. Thabeet (who I also missed on) was notoriously the result of some Maloofian interference from owner Michael Heisley. The basketball staff wasn't sold on him. Love for Mayo was no excuses, although as mentioned after their rookie years people were laughing at Minny for that one saying that Memphis actually got the better of it. Dumb people. But still, people.

Meanwhile Wallace put together a rough tough big man oriented defensive crew. Brought in Tony Allen, who I think he had drafted in Boston. Brought in Zach Randolph, which of course could make him a natural fit for making it work with Boogie. The Rudy Gay for Battier steal was done the year before he arrived in Memphis, so that wasn't him. And its not entirely clear if he was the main mover behind drafting Mike Conley -- he took over as GM a few days before that draft. So it was his call, but he may have relied on staff, who knows. There are things that have worked. But its hard to trust one of the few GMs I can think of who has actually traded away three perennial All Star/franchise level players in Johnson, Pau and Love.
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Unfortunately, he really has been a disastrous gm. If in over a decade, the only positive was getting lucky with gasol and Randolph turning it around, that's not a good thing. Check out his record of transactions on basketball reference.com. Awful drafting even outside the thabeet one. Poor trades and FA signings. It's nice that he put together a defensive minded team but I think he's one of the worst gms in the league. I'd be very bummed if he ended up with the job especially since we are already mentioned to have interest in other better candidates.
 
I would take the unknown Golden State assisntant GM Travis Schlenk over Chris Wallace. I just can't wrap my head around Wallace becoming part of my life again. I lived through Vin Baker's career in Boston.


I'd also question why he'd even interview with the Kings, and why Memphis would allow him to. He is the current GM of a team that went to the WCF. I've had a feeling (and maybe I read it somewhere, I can't remember) that ever since the Grizzlies brought in Hollinger that they've been trying to get rid of Wallace anyway. I'm not sure how much control he's had over the past few months. If the Grizzlies are willing to let him go so easily .. that has to bring up some red flags.

This may be my Wallace hatred (in a basketball sense, I'm sure he's an ok guy) shining through, but I'm not sure he's any better than Petrie. Petrie at least built a successful team that was based 100% on moves HE was responsible for. A lot of what happened in Memphis had to do with luck, and the work of other people.

And as a drafter?

Conley - Good (how much was he involved?)
Greene - Bad, traded
Love - Good, traded for OJ Mayo, who is an ok player, but a bad move.
Sam Young - 2nd Rounder, ok
DeMarre Carroll - End of first round, ok
Hasheem Thabeet - Bad
Greivis Vasquez - Good
Dominique Jones - Bad
Xavier Henry - Bad
Josh Shelby - 2nd Rounder
Tony Wroten - Could go either way

at BEST he is an average drafter.
 
Thought it was interesting that Amick's article stated that the Kings asked for permission to interview OKC's asst GM, but they declined to let him interview.
 
MassachusettsKingsFan said:
I'd also question why he'd even interview with the Kings, and why Memphis would allow him to. He is the current GM of a team that went to the WCF. I've had a feeling (and maybe I read it somewhere, I can't remember) that ever since the Grizzlies brought in Hollinger that they've been trying to get rid of Wallace anyway. I'm not sure how much control he's had over the past few months. If the Grizzlies are willing to let him go so easily .. that has to bring up some red flags.
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Pera has brought in not only Hollinger, but also Jason Levien (remember him?) and Wallace has been marginalised more and more as a result. I agree with you on Wallace, by the way. Memphis, in the last couple of years has struck me as a team that's made dumb decision after dumb decision and has been fairly immune to the consequences. very reluctant to give Wallace a shot here.
 
After Indy's year KP would be quite a steal.

Wallace... well, I pretty much hated him in Boston. He did have a few gems - he convinced Pitino to bring in Bruce Bowen for a year or two before he went to San Antonio and became the hateable pest that everyone secretly would love on their own team. Prior to that he was with the Heat when they were a mid-level East contender (I think he actually discovered Bowen there). That said, he had the Joe Johnson trade (short term gain for long term disaster) and he also brought Vin Baker in on a bad deal. He also missed in the draft repeatedly with Boston - 3 1st rounders in the year that brought in Johnson, the others were Joe Forte and Kedrick Brown. I would be disappointed if we went in this direction to say the least.
 
Hopefully we already have some type of handshake deal going on with Malone, concerned that there might be interest elsewhere for him
 
I'd be very happy with Pritchard, though I can't imagine there's any chance of that happening. Not a fan of Wallace either. I'd prefer Schlenk to him, though he's not even my first choice in a perfect world.
 
Man, it's just so exciting that we are discussing all these great basketball names. Just 2 weeks ago we were still owned by the Magoofs and didn't know for sure if the team was staying in Sac.

This will be one of the most exciting off seasons ever.
 
Kingsfan23 said:
Hopefully we already have some type of handshake deal going on with Malone, concerned that there might be interest elsewhere for him
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Yeah but maybe that Clippers job is not all it's cracked up to be. Sky high expectations and they were pretty quick on the trigger with Del Negro. Not sure Malone would rather have that job than one with a new ownership group that is completely into him and will probably give him a bit more slack than the LA job. It is sure sounding like he is in the bag for Sac, CP3 wished be damned.
 
John Galt said:
Yeah but maybe that Clippers job is not all it's cracked up to be. Sky high expectations and they were pretty quick on the trigger with Del Negro. Not sure Malone would rather have that job than one with a new ownership group that is completely into him and will probably give him a bit more slack than the LA job. It is sure sounding like he is in the bag for Sac, CP3 wished be damned.
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I'm not sure this is logical but I'll settle for it. :)
 
John Galt said:
Yeah but maybe that Clippers job is not all it's cracked up to be. Sky high expectations and they were pretty quick on the trigger with Del Negro. Not sure Malone would rather have that job than one with a new ownership group that is completely into him and will probably give him a bit more slack than the LA job. It is sure sounding like he is in the bag for Sac, CP3 wished be damned.
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If CP3 wants to play for him that badly, he can always come to Sacramento :p
 
John Galt said:
Yeah but maybe that Clippers job is not all it's cracked up to be. Sky high expectations and they were pretty quick on the trigger with Del Negro. Not sure Malone would rather have that job than one with a new ownership group that is completely into him and will probably give him a bit more slack than the LA job. It is sure sounding like he is in the bag for Sac, CP3 wished be damned.
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Good points. Also, who would you rather work for, Stirling or Vivek?
 
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