Ron Artest Speaks To Children About Detroit Brawl + Defends Actions

After six months in the Sacramento Community, how do you feel about Ron Artest?


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#31
This is what I have a problem with and it was discussed by Napear on the radio yesterday, ok so he has to do community service we get that, but why have him do it in Detroit where he is the most hated man in that part of the country? Why not have him do it in New York or somewhere else, because it has been done before where athletes have done community service not in the city they did the crime in? Also there are other forms of community service why have Artest talk to kids or deal with the public at all especially in Detroit? I mean if I were a parent of one of those kids and found out Ron Artest came and talked to my kid would I have a problem with it? Yes I would because he is not someone I would want talking to my child especially after what he said yesterday.
 
#34
I don't believe these quotes have anything to do with to Artest's sanity. If anything, he belongs right next to those kids... but this doesn't show me he's crazy.
 

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#35
Er, I'm not sure if you say 'on his meds' as an expression, or not. But if he is really taking his meds, then that is interesting.

About this, not a big deal. Ron has been talking that way about the brawl for a while now.
I was simply using the expression "on his meds" because I was being lazy.

I should have said, "As long as he's doing what we're paying him a lot of money to do on the court without any further problems about temper, anger management, etc. then I'm a happy camper."

;)
 
#36
Ya I know that, but there have been other athletes that have done there community service not in the community they commited the crime in. Like I said there are other forms of community service other than interacting with the public that Artest can do.
 

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#37
Ya I know that, but there have been other athletes that have done there community service not in the community they commited the crime in. Like I said there are other forms of community service other than interacting with the public that Artest can do.
Is it really that big a deal?

Apparently the parents of the kids who were in attendance had no problem with it.
 
#38
I think his message was a good one. Try to talk to people if they are giving you a hard time, but if it comes down to having to defend yourself than you can't back down.
 
#39
Jim Grey was just on JRIB and on his final burn he "burned" Ron. He basically said "he'll never learn, he's a moron, he shouldn't be around kids, he's crazy, etc." Jim Grey is pathetic and I've never liked him.

I think it's hilarious that people look at that part of the message and dissaprove but they don't look at the rest of Ron's comments. He basically said if someone starts something with you then defend yourself. If I had a kid that's what I'd tell them. That's what everyone in my family told me when I was younger. People are doing the same thing they always do with Ron Artest-making a big deal out of nothing.
 
#40
Bottom line:
I dont won't Ron Artest telling any kid how to appropriately manage their anger. Clearly and historically, he is clueless.
 
#42
So even if part of his advice was good people should ignore it just because he's Ron Artest?
Having your kids fight people who attack them is not good advice.

But that wasnt my point, I dont want Ron teaching my kids about self controll. As Brick said, the judge that ordered this community service wasnt too bright.
 
#43
Having your kids fight people who attack them is not good advice.

But that wasnt my point, I dont want Ron teaching my kids about self controll. As Brick said, the judge that ordered this community service wasnt too bright.

So you would rather your kids get the **** beat out of them or something instead of fighting back? I know I wouldn't.

And yes the judge who ordered this is a moron.
 
#49
I don't know if you've heard this before, but it's possible to defend yourself without actually "fighting."
i did not expect that coming from you! :p

but sometimes, a fight is just unavoidable. if it came down to it, i'd want my kids to be prepared. but, like ron said, if it can be avoided, then avoid it.
 

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#52
i did not expect that coming from you! :p
I do not necessarily want my son to be exactly like me. I have many qualities that I want him to take after me in, but my confrontational nature isn't one of them.

Besides which, defending yourself is not the same as fighting: avoid rather than check, check rather than hurt...
 

Bricklayer

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#53
Have no problem at all with the general concept. Fits very well with my own personality. However, there is another lesson that kids need to be taguht -- when you **** up and overreact, admit it, apologize, and don't do it again. Don't run off bragging about being a bleeping idiot.
 
#54
I am just saying if it is unavoidable I would want my kid to fight back rather than just let the other kid beat them up.
Since I don't have/don't want children, I usually try to avoid any and all arguments as to what someone's children should or should not be taught. However, I would certainly hope that having a plastic cup thrown at you by a moron would be lumped into the avoidable category.

There is a VAST (read: Grand Canyon) difference between overreacting to a drunken idiot and starting a near-riot, and defending yourself against someone actively beating the **** out of you.
 
#55
Since I don't have/don't want children, I usually try to avoid any and all arguments as to what someone's children should or should not be taught. However, I would certainly hope that having a plastic cup thrown at you by a moron would be lumped into the avoidable category.

There is a VAST (read: Grand Canyon) difference between overreacting to a drunken idiot and starting a near-riot, and defending yourself against someone actively beating the **** out of you.

I know. But Ron said if a fight is unavoidable then you defend yourself-that's what I'm agreeing with. I'm not agreeing with going and starting the biggest brawl in NBA history because someone threw a cup on you(although John Green was pretty stupid to do that, so was Ron to react that way).
 
#56
My only problem is when he said "Someone started it and I ended it". No you didn't Ron, you helped to create the "brawl" that became the worst in U.S. sports history...something I have to unfortunately associate with my birthday
 
#58
My only problem is when he said "Someone started it and I ended it". No you didn't Ron, you helped to create the "brawl" that became the worst in U.S. sports history...something I have to unfortunately associate with my birthday
Exactly. He didn't end it, he helped escalate it. Ending it would've been walking away, it was an avoidable fight. He just has too much pride/not enough brains to admit that even though John Green was wrong, he was wrong too.
 
#59
Who was the judge that had the bright idea of Ron speaking to children as some sort of role model? :eek: He's kind of like Mike Tyson in that you never know what he's going to say, and neither does he.

Not sure why the poll was attached though -- this article is more amusing than alarming.
Haha, Amen Brick. I don't necessarily think everything he said was bad. He's a public figure who is easy to villify. However, feeding the homeless or picking up trash seem much smarter. Why would you have Ron Artest speaking to kids? What was Dennis Rodman too busy to teach and Michael Jackson to busy to teach Sex Ed? Nice, what's next, English lessons from Jason Kapono?
 
#60
I saw the clip in question. Ron was simply asked by a reporter about it, and as always, what Ron says looks completely different in print. He kind of said the "ended it" part kind of matter of factly. He wasn't trying to sound like a bad *** or anything.