Ron Artest Speaks To Children About Detroit Brawl + Defends Actions

After six months in the Sacramento Community, how do you feel about Ron Artest?


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#1
Artest defends brawl actions during community service

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2551458

DETROIT -- Ron Artest, talking to children as part of his community service sentence, defended his actions in one of the worst brawls in U.S. sports history.
"Someone started trouble and I ended it," Artest told about 50 children Wednesday at a panel on black empowerment at the Judge Mathis Community Center. "I would always encourage you to protect yourself but in certain situations, if you can avoid them, avoid them."
Artest was at the center of the November 2004 brawl at a Detroit Pistons game. It started when Artest, then with the Indiana Pacers, fouled Pistons center Ben Wallace late in a blowout game.
As the confrontation on the court appeared to calm down, a fan hit Artest, who was lying on the scorer's table, with a cup. Artest charged into the stands and threw punches, along with teammate Stephen Jackson.
Pistons fan John Green was convicted of punching Artest but was found not guilty of throwing a drink on the player.
"I like John Green, he's real," Artest said. "I don't have any problems with John Green. He did something really stupid but a lot of people do stupid things. God forgives, so I'm forgiving too."
But Artest, who now plays for the Sacramento Kings, said he really doesn't think about that night in The Palace of Auburn Hills.
"It's so over. That night has been so far over, I really don't have any thoughts on it," he said.
Artest, Jackson and several teammates were sentenced to one-year probation after pleading no contest to misdemeanor assault charges. All were ordered to perform community service, which Artest is scheduled to do in the Detroit area through Sunday.
Artest spoke about his upbringing in a broken home and how past drug dealing almost landed him in jail. He said he started getting into trouble after his parents divorced when he was 13.
"I was very sad and I always wished they got back together, but they're not," Artest said. "If that happens to anybody, you have to worry about yourself. You can't worry about your parents at that time, because obviously they aren't thinking about you, they're thinking about themselves."

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oh ron. you crack me up! :D
 
#2
Artest defends Palace brawl

Former Pacer explains actions in talk with children

Posted: Wednesday August 16, 2006 3:17PM; Updated: Wednesday August 16, 2006 3:28PM


Ron Artest told a group of children Wednesday that he "ended" the "trouble" in the Palace brawl after "someone" started it.
Allen Einstein/NBAE via Getty Images



DETROIT (AP) -- Ron Artest, talking to children as part of his community service sentence, defended his actions in one of the worst brawls in U.S. sports history.
"Someone started trouble and I ended it,"Artest told about 50 children :eek: Wednesday at a panel on black empowerment at the Judge Mathis Community Center.

"I would always encourage you to protect yourself but in certain situations, if you can avoid them, avoid them."
Artest was at the center of the November 2004 brawl at a Detroit Pistons game. It started when Artest, then with the Indiana Pacers, fouled Pistons center Ben Wallace late in a blowout game.

As the confrontation on the court appeared to calm down, a fan hit Artest, who was lying on the scorer's table, with a cup. Artest charged into the stands and threw punches, along with teammate Stephen Jackson.

Pistons fan John Green was convicted of punching Artest but was found not guilty of throwing a drink on the player.

"I like John Green, he's real." Artest said. "I don't have any problems with John Green. He did something really stupid but a lot of people do stupid things. God forgives, so I'm forgiving too."
But Artest, who plays for the Sacramento Kings, said he really doesn't think about that night in The Palace of Auburn Hills.
"It's so over. That night has been so far over, I really don't have any thoughts on it."

Artest, Jackson and several teammates were sentenced to one-year probation after pleading no contest to misdemeanor assault charges. All were ordered to perform community service, which Artest is scheduled to do in the Detroit area through Sunday.

Artest spoke about his upbringing in a broken home and how past drug dealing almost landed him in jail. He said he started getting into trouble after his parents divorced when he was 13.

"I was very sad and I always wished they got back together, but they're not," Artest said. "If that happens to anybody, you have to worry about yourself. You can't worry about your parents at that time, because obviously they aren't thinking about you, they're thinking about themselves."

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#8
Divorce is really hard on kids, maybe even worse for young teens. That's not a good time to have the bottom fall out of your world.

Does that excuse him, no, but it probably explains part of who he is.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#9
Who was the judge that had the bright idea of Ron speaking to children as some sort of role model? :eek: He's kind of like Mike Tyson in that you never know what he's going to say, and neither does he.

Not sure why the poll was attached though -- this article is more amusing than alarming.
 
#10
I wonder if Stern will use this as an excuse to suspend Artest yet again.
Ron's just keeping it real. He said avoid trouble if you can, but don't back down if you cannot...that's pretty much the motto all of us go by. We have a new Ron and hopefully he will continue to inspire this team as he brought us back from the dead last season.
 
#12
Who was the judge that had the bright idea of Ron speaking to children as some sort of role model? :eek: He's kind of like Mike Tyson in that you never know what he's going to say, and neither does he.

Not sure why the poll was attached though -- this article is more amusing than alarming.
That's so true. Ron has said some great things since in a King's uniform like paying for Rick to stay and joking that he was going to mess up Bonzi if he didn't stay with us etc. But yeah, you never know what you are going to get out of Ron's mouth. It's best to keep the mic away from him. I love the guy, but what he does on the court, he is on a short leash and should avoid the mic and cameras off the court.

Ron also has been turned in the direction an interviewer wants to go and has said stuff he normally wouldn't say. I feel that it's not only what Ron said, but what he has been coached to say or an interviewer brought up a topic he has no business knowing about (private matters) and Ron doesn't hold back.

I'd like to think we have Ron the guy who has learned from his mistakes and is our new franchise player. If it doesn't last that long, I'll cherish it for what it's worth. If he keeps playing good this season and doesn't have any flair ups, I'd do my best to keep him in a Kings uniform for years to come by reupping his contract. He is one of the few Kings I can say this about, including Kmart, maybe Bibby, but he is just getting paid too much. Shall be a fun season at any rate.
 
#14
Who was the judge that had the bright idea of Ron speaking to children as some sort of role model? :eek: He's kind of like Mike Tyson in that you never know what he's going to say, and neither does he.

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Gotta agree with you there. I like Artest & love the passion and fire he's brought to this team on the court. However, he wouldn't be top pick if I was looking for a good role model to speak at my son's elementary school!
 
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#15
Ron's just keeping it real. He said avoid trouble if you can, but don't back down if you cannot...that's pretty much the motto all of us go by. We have a new Ron and hopefully he will continue to inspire this team as he brought us back from the dead last season.
Tend to agree. I don't think Ron's an idiot, I think just about all of what he said was safe and unbiased instead of drawing more up by going in-depth about stuff (John Green and the brawl) in the past. What's the point? He can move on as he pleases, and rightfully so.

To not move on, that's the job for the mostly pathetic and one-dimensonal media to do. ;)

Of course he didn't end it, but I wouldn't expect him to go deeper into what happened in front of children.

Obviously since he isn't a Detroit Piston, he was ordered to do this in the courts or something. Probably wanted to do it for himself as well.
 
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#16
alright everyone look... when artest said this he was talking to the media in mics. he did not say anything wrong. he said "i told the kids ima be real, if someone starts trouble with you, if someone hits you, you always have to protect your self." now.. whats wrong with that?? you do have to protect yourself.. everyone is reading too much into this because its a slow news day....

peace
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#18
Once again, I have an answer that isn't covered by the poll.

My choice?

He may well be nuts, but at this point I don't care. As long as he stays on his meds on the court.
 
#19
Once again, I have an answer that isn't covered by the poll.

My choice?

He may well be nuts, but at this point I don't care. As long as he stays on his meds on the court.
To me, your answer sounds like the second option, more the middle-ground, neutral choice.
 
#20
How do I feel about Ron Artest?

I still love the guy. Maybe he's crazy, maybe he isn't. I don't have the need to pass judgement on and try to control people I don't know so it doesn't really matter to me.
 
#21
alright everyone look... when artest said this he was talking to the media in mics. he did not say anything wrong. he said "i told the kids ima be real, if someone starts trouble with you, if someone hits you, you always have to protect your self." now.. whats wrong with that?? you do have to protect yourself.. everyone is reading too much into this because its a slow news day....

peace
Absolutely agreed.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#24
To me, your answer sounds like the second option, more the middle-ground, neutral choice.
Nope. I don't think we're "stuck with him" regardless of the "good or bad" part of the comment.

I think Petrie did the right thing. I think Artest may say a lot of crazy things, but I simply don't care. And I glad we have him.
 

Entity

Hall of Famer
#26
I am a father of 4 and i consider myself a good father and i would tell any of my children the same thing. You have to take up for yourself. Whats the big deal probably 9 out of every 10 fathers tell their kids that.
 
#27
I am a father of 4 and i consider myself a good father and i would tell any of my children the same thing. You have to take up for yourself. Whats the big deal probably 9 out of every 10 fathers tell their kids that.
I'm not a father, but just by general knowledge, I agree.
 
#29
I read the beginning of the article on yahoo and then stopped after the first few sentences. I love Ron! He makes being a fan fun and should help us get on national television. Just don't forget to perform on the basketball court- where it all matters.
 
#30
He may well be nuts, but at this point I don't care. As long as he stays on his meds on the court.
Er, I'm not sure if you say 'on his meds' as an expression, or not. But if he is really taking his meds, then that is interesting.

About this, not a big deal. Ron has been talking that way about the brawl for a while now.