Kingster
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Was it Joerger's game plan, or was it the immaturity of the team that wanted to take it on their own shoulders than trust in their teammates and follow the game plan? Do we know it was Joerger?
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Was it Joerger's game plan, or was it the immaturity of the team that wanted to take it on their own shoulders than trust in their teammates and follow the game plan? Do we know it was Joerger?
SacTownKid
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It happened too much for it not to be laid at his feet regardless. Either he allowed to happen or it was the game plan, either way, it's the coaches to own. Getting to the line and a grind style of ball is his MO so it's likely easy to figure it was part of the plan.
Kingster
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That did seem to be the case. Much more so than driving the lane and finding open three point shooters.
That's not exactly reassuring considering how poor their defense was last year while playing uptempo..
Don't forget they signed Dedmon, CoJo, Ariza and Holmes. All solid defenders.
King Baller
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I think the most interesting part of the rotation will be Harry Giles' role next season.
Barring injury I don't see how the starting lineup isn't Fox, Hield, Barnes, Bagley, and Dedmon.
Joseph, Bogdan, and Ariza will be the backups at PG, SG, and SF.
But how the coaches decide who gets minutes at the backup PF and C spot will be interesting. I think they want Giles to get minutes and I think they like his fit next to Bagley so my guess is that Giles is the backup C and Bjelica gets backup PF minutes. But I think Holmes will also impress with his energy, effort, rebounding, and value in the pick and roll. So I could see Bjeli being the guy who gets squeezed out.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Barring injury I don't see how the starting lineup isn't Fox, Hield, Barnes, Bagley, and Dedmon.
Joseph, Bogdan, and Ariza will be the backups at PG, SG, and SF.
But how the coaches decide who gets minutes at the backup PF and C spot will be interesting. I think they want Giles to get minutes and I think they like his fit next to Bagley so my guess is that Giles is the backup C and Bjelica gets backup PF minutes. But I think Holmes will also impress with his energy, effort, rebounding, and value in the pick and roll. So I could see Bjeli being the guy who gets squeezed out.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Jkbiker
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With Cojo,Bogie,Ariza in the second unit, it may come down to matchups and what we need most
If other team has big beefy backup Bigs , then Maybe Giles and Holmes
If we need more 3 pt shooting and they have beef, then Bjelica and Holmes
If they have smaller bigs or stretch 4, then Bjelica and Giles
All three have their strengths and weaknesses.
Plus if there is any foul trouble,shooting slump,lack of effort,injuries, we have that 3rd backup big ready to go
I am sure the coach will work out what we need when we need it
Tetsujin
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It's a good problem to have and we are far removed from the days of having a front line of Spencer Hawes/Mikki Moore/Sheldon Williams/Kenny Thomas's corpse. The thing is that Holmes and Bagley are pretty much guaranteed to miss a couple of games of the Gerald Wallace "tries so damn hard that he hurts himself" variety and Dedmon and Giles both have their own injury histories so there's bound to be enough playing time to go around so long as all of our big men aren't injured at the same time (in which case Ariza and Barnes are both capable of sliding over to take some time at the 4 anyways).
God I love having depth.
Until the season starts I'm not going to count or discount that. It's basically another experimental season with the personnel and coaching changes.
They may be decent defenders, but how will the offense fare then.....will there be a drop-off in production - maybe. They need a net-gain - and even more uptempo pace may not facilitate better defense and the net-gain.
jcassio
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Just another experimental season? Man, I just don’t understand you.
Chupacabra
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Who is CoJo? If it's Curtis Joseph, shouldn't is be "CuJo"?
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Corey Joseph
Chupacabra
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I suppose knowing his name is where I went wrong.
Well now you're just moving goal posts. You said you feared the defense would suffer with an even more uptempo offense and I brought up that it shouldn't since we now have better defenders on the team.
Of course they need a net gain which is why there needs to be a balance. You aren't going to win many games with CoJo, any SG, Ariza, Holmes and Dedmon playing a lot of minutes as a unit together but you plug those guys here and there in with our talented younger players and you may hit on a nice balance where their offense isn't needed much but their work on defense helps immensely. It'll be up to Walton to figure out that side of things.
I mean, CuJo would be WAY cooler, so maybe we can petition him to legally change his name.
bajaden
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If his name was CuJo, then we would have a dog in the hunt......
NME
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The hockey player Curtis Joseph got that one.
Telemachus
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Something they play up in Canada.
The Kings second unit is going to be a lot better. If Walton really thinks the Kings can play faster than last year, then it will take 10-12 guys to play that way. He may have the horses to do it. If Bogdan, Ariza, Joseph and Giles are coming off the bench, then the starters must be pretty good.
Barking up the wrong tree there
And Stockton and San Jose! Don't knock it - lots of fun to watch!
Telemachus
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I know. I like hockey. Been a fan of the Sharks since they came to San Jose.
Yes experimental - as in they don't have what works yet.... on top of hiring a new coach.
I'm not moving goal-posts ;I'm bringing up the larger picture at hand. We can hope the new players mesh and fill gaps while keeping the offense going, but who knows - to just mention defensive upside, doesn't mean it'll translate or not. And yes, its on a newcoach who will be "up to figuring out that side of things", which is another unknown.
Well I also will be watching and see how the new players mesh.
Being realistic I have to believe one or more of them may not work out and if that’s the case I hope it’s one of the reserves and we can address the position come the trade deadline.
But saying the last part we more than likely will be seeking a upgrade someplace in the lineup at that time anyway.
Being realistic I have to believe one or more of them may not work out and if that’s the case I hope it’s one of the reserves and we can address the position come the trade deadline.
But saying the last part we more than likely will be seeking a upgrade someplace in the lineup at that time anyway.
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