Power Foward next Year?

mbkings10

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Many have asked if Abdur Rahim would be a player to sign as a free agent, but I believe if the Kings go for a PF they should look at Swift from Memphis. Hes an athletic big man, good shot blocker, terrific dunker, decent offensive game. With Brad Miller opperating in the high post, I think we need a low post presence and Swift could fill that need. I don't know about the combination of Songalia and Thomas for next years team, if I were the Kings I would go for Swift out of the free agent pool.
 
Everyone says how great this guy is but I just don't see it. He can dunk, great. Wow. He is impressive but I don't know if he is anyones answer to PF let alone the Kings.
 
there is already a thread started on Rahim.

Anyway this season is still going on it is an insult to talk about what we need to get before this team even shows what it has. Besides we will have 3 months of nonthingness in the offseson to dwell on what we need or don't need. For now lets talk about this team that is still in the playoffs with the 6th or 7th best record in the NBA
 
Heuge said:
How about Brian Skinner

now there is an idea. The things Skinner isn't giving us now may come with time and practice with the team. Skinner and Miller with Thomas spelling them off the bench. I like it.
 
Swift block shots, rebounds and Dunks. He's a good player, he's not a franchise type PF but he is the type of player we need, someone who can goto the hole, plays tough D. I doubt we can afford him though without signing and trading.
 
That was what I was thinking. He's not a franchise player, but we have players like Bibby and Peja and Brad to build our franchise around. We could offer one of the power fowards we have now and do a sign and trade
 
the thing is... we finally have someone to rest peja, and when bobby gets back someone to rest bibby... we'd have to trade corliss and/or thomas to get a pf, not nearly as good as webber but we then have no one to rest peja.... and bobby is a injury waiting to happen.... what do we do?
 
AriesMar27 said:
the thing is... we finally have someone to rest peja, and when bobby gets back someone to rest bibby... we'd have to trade corliss and/or thomas to get a pf, not nearly as good as webber but we then have no one to rest peja.... and bobby is a injury waiting to happen.... what do we do?

I know we could get Matt Barnes to backup Pedja next year.
 
^^^ that'd be nice but hes no corliss.... corliss is a straight up thug when he plays... barnes is kinda weak, corliss could play 20+ minutes easily, barnes cant.... maybe if barnes hit the gym or something.... he and martin could be work out buddies... god knows they both need it....
 
AleksandarN said:
I know we could get Matt Barnes to backup Pedja next year.
I really feel bad for Barnes. He gets dealt to Philly and then they put him on the injured list without giving him a chance.
 
Who knows, I'm sure GP will figure something out, but I'm sure there will be some definite changes on next year's squad.
 
What about Chandler?

He can play both C and PF. Can rebound and can block shots. Not a bad defender either. I must admit I haven't seen much of him but he would give us a lot of versatility.
 
I think Chris Wilcox from the Clippers is an attractive player also. He doesn't really get any opportunities in LA because of Brand, but he could flourish here. He really played well for the clips in the early season. He's athletic, can block shots, rebound, and has a decent post game. He could also play either power foward or center for us. I believe he will become a free agent, and it looks like Swift and Chandler may be too expensive to sign.
 
Darius is too limited.
Thomas is too small.
Skinner is a possibility, but unless Brad explodes that means we really only have marginal offensive punch on the frontline.

If we keep Brad, and I think he's fairly high up there on the list of guys likely, but not assured, of being back, then he just has to be surrounded by players who can defend the interior (not just one on one, but guys who can make a difference by protecting the rim), and you could really use a post player in there as well (whihc Brad also can't provide). His weaknesses were nicely covered up in Indiana by being paired with Jermaine O'Neal. So as long as we just trade for Jermaine, problem solved. :)

LOT of big men available this summer, and that's before we even get into the anticipated trades we might make to cash in our riffraff. Big man free agents who could help either as a starter or backup:

Tyson Chandler (R)
Eddy Curry (R)
Zydrunas Ilgauskas
Stromile Swift
Dan Gadzuric (R)
Eddie Griffin (R)
Samuel Dalembert (R)
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Reggie Evans (R)
Vladimir Radmonovic (R)
Donyell Marshall
Kwame Brown (R)
Antoine Walker :eek:

Now, not all of those guys are true starters themselves. In fact I would say a lot of them are closer to 6th men type with breakout potential. But most on that list have size (I included Walker, Radmonovic + Rahim just for the hell of it), and we really need that up front. Brad, Darius and Peja all play smaller than they are, and Thomas and Corliss just ARE small. In our peak years we used to combine a 7'1" long center with a 6'9" athletic long-armed big-handed PF and a 6'11" banger off the bench (alongside a 6'10" SF/PF off the bench as well). Good for 25rebs, 4+blks, post presence etc. Now in our later years we've gotten small and unathletic, and if that's not corrected this summer the window really is finally shut.

Thing is, due to our cap situation it will be hard for us to be players in the FA market except via sign and trades. But that's ok -- kind of what I think the Webber trade was designed for us to do. Allow us to cash in various chips and try to get back better ones.
 
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Eddie Griffin is playing for minimum and considering his personal baggage is available for less than MLE. The question is do we want that baggage.
 
I like Skinner's game, but it'll be great if we if we could pick up someone like Wilcox and Swift to play along side Miller and have Skinner back both of those guys up. Skinner can play the role that we thought Tag was going to fill.
 
Skinner and Thomas are just a tad undersized for their positions. It all depends on what happens in the offseason, but if we end up losing Peja and Mobley (like most people think), and go for a superstar OG, it might not be a bad thing to move Skinner to PF and Thomas to SF. We would start:

Miller - C
Skinner - PF
Thomas - SF
whoever replaces Mobley (Pierce?!?!) - OG
Bibby - PG

With a bench of:

whatever backup big guy we get - C
Songaila - PF
Evans - SF
Barnes (if we do get him) - SF/OG
BJax - OG/PG
Martin - OG/PG
Draft pick - #12 guy

Not bad at all...
 
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Jose said:
Skinner and Thomas are just a tad undersized for their positions.

Thomas is, but Skinner is really a PF. He's undersized where we're trying to play him (at C). But he's got pretty good size at his natural PF. Plays big too. Think he's a keeper unless he's needed to help make a deal for a real stud go down (in fact at the current moment if you were going to ask me to list my Kings keepers this offseason, Bibby would be #1 and Skinner might be #2).
 
Bricklayer said:
Thomas is, but Skinner is really a PF. He's undersized where we're trying to play him (at C). But he's got pretty good size at his natural PF. Plays big too. Think he's a keeper unless he's needed to help make a deal for a real stud go down (in fact at the current moment if you were going to ask me to list my Kings keepers this offseason, Bibby would be #1 and Skinner might be #2).

That's what I meant... undersized for the positions we're playing them.
 
Jose said:
That's what I meant... undersized for the positions we're playing them.

Not sure whether KT can really play SF consistently, but he really is SF sized. Of course at the point that you've gone from Chris Webber and Peja Stojakovic as your starting PF and SF respectively to Brian Skinner and Kenny Thomas:eek: ...er...NOT inspiring. ;)
 
Jose said:
Skinner and Thomas are just a tad undersized for their positions. It all depends on what happens in the offseason, but if we end up losing Peja and Mobley (like most people think), and go for a superstar OG, it might not be a bad thing to move Skinner to PF and Thomas to SF. We would start:

Miller - C
Skinner - PF
Thomas - SF
whoever replaces Mobley (Pierce?!?!) - OG
Bibby - PG

With a bench of:

whatever backup big guy we get - C
Songaila - PF
Evans - SF
Barnes (if we do get him) - SF/OG
BJax - OG/PG
Martin - OG/PG
Draft pick - #12 guy

Not bad at all...

Where is peja. sure he is not having his best season but we cant just forget about him. apart from that good team. If Ilgauskas(spelling??) is free i think we should try trade for him, then move miller to PF
 
Gilles said:
Eddie Griffin is playing for minimum and considering his personal baggage is available for less than MLE. The question is do we want that baggage.

Eddie Griffin is very underrated in my opinion. Every bit as funny as Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock :D
 
Peja2005 said:
Where is peja. sure he is not having his best season but we cant just forget about him. apart from that good team. If Ilgauskas(spelling??) is free i think we should try trade for him, then move miller to PF

My post was assuming that Peja and Mobley are gone (which seems to be the popular opinion), and that we'd get a star-caliber OG and a backup big guy in their place (which is realistically the best we can probably hope for in the offseason). Now, of course, Petrie pulls off some unrealistic trades so who knows...
 
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