Peja's team? Or Bibby's?

Widowmaker2k

Widowmaker2k

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In the playoffs last year, Bibby and Webber lead this team...with Webber gone, isn't it possible that Bibby, and not Peja will step up to fill his absense? Forgive me if this sounds stupid, I know very little about basketball, but Bibby has being carrying the offensive load well this season. Actually, he's got better numbers than Peja in every category except ppg, ft%, and 3P%. (And he's very close in ppg and 3P%.)

Is it very far-fetched to think that maybe he will be our new superstar? I guess it's safe to say that without webb, Peja's rebounding will go up, but will his heart? I'm really confused right now...
 
Bricklayer

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No, I think it has to be Mike's team as far as heart/leadership go. But Peja should be the leading scorer (indeed already is with his competition traded away). Now whether he can score int he playoffs -- might be matchups. I've had this theory for a while now that Peja isn't really a choker, he's just not good enough to beat the elite defenders. Give him a weak defender, and he gets lit up. Give him a Bowen, and he gets shut down. Just unfortuante that the top playoff teams all have elite defenders.
 
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hurley

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I've saying all day long how this is now Mike's team. It will be like when he was at Arizona. Miles Simon scored a lot of points, but it was still Mike's team.

Unfortunately, point gaurd led teams don't win championships anymore.

Also, I think we would have been better suited with Kurt Thomas rather than Kenny. That would have united C.Webb and I.Thomas.

And while I'm wondering, why didn't we try for Dalembert or G.Robinson?

Dalembert to keep or G.Rob cuz he only has 1 year left.
 
Crackerman

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With Webber gone maybe it can be RA's team. If anything it is going to take the leadership of the coach to put all the peices together. RA has his work cut out for him. If he had a hard time getting time for Mobley to practice guess what now you have an extra 3 players to think about. It is time for the Coach to show what type of leadership he can provide...
 
love_them_kings

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Bricklayer said:
No, I think it has to be Peja's team as far as heart/leadership go. But Peja should be the leading scorer (indeed already is with his competition traded away). Now whether he can score int he playoffs -- might be matchups. I've had this theory for a while now that Peja isn't really a choker, he's just not good enough to beat the elite defenders. Give him a weak defender, and he gets lit up. Give him a Bowen, and he gets shut down. Just unfortuante that the top playoff teams all have elite defenders.
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wait, do you mean Peja's team for heart/leadership and scoring? Or Bibby's for heart/leadership but Peja should be the top scorer? I would agree with the latter. I think Bibby has the heart to lead this team if he steps up, and I believe Peja will score more now. But, I COMPLETELY agree with your theory on Peja's playoff woes. Peja likes to have his shot, the way he wants it, and a good defender isn't going to give him that. We see good defenders just shut him down over and over again, and like you said, the playoff teams typically have good defenders. But, this is also not 100% Peja's fault. I've often felt in these games that Adelman needs to design plays that get Peja the ball where he needs it so he can get his shots in, because waiting for Peja to create his own opportunity when someone is right on him is kind of tough.
 
LjuboDaMan

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let the guyz play ball because all this who's da leader might create some problems ... RA will be the leader :D yessssssssssss ... at least he should be
 
love_them_kings

love_them_kings

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LjuboDaMan said:
come on guyz ... bibby vs peja now ?

no please donttttttttttt

RA should be the leader ... yes ...
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I don't think anyone is pitting Peja against Bibby, this is just a question of who will lead this team. I don't think either of them is dying to lead, and I think whoever steps up will have the blessing of the other person.
 
Bricklayer

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love_them_kings said:
wait, do you mean Peja's team for heart/leadership and scoring? Or Bibby's for heart/leadership but Peja should be the top scorer? I would agree with the latter. I think Bibby has the heart to lead this team if he steps up, and I believe Peja will score more now. But, I COMPLETELY agree with your theory on Peja's playoff woes. Peja likes to have his shot, the way he wants it, and a good defender isn't going to give him that. We see good defenders just shut him down over and over again, and like you said, the playoff teams typically have good defenders. But, this is also not 100% Peja's fault. I've often felt in these games that Adelman needs to design plays that get Peja the ball where he needs it so he can get his shots in, because waiting for Peja to create his own opportunity when someone is right on him is kind of tough.
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Twas I typo/brain fart -- I fixed it.

If I start spewing unintelligible legaleze about which chemical company owns the patent on a particular acidic cleansing product, shoot me a PM -- trying to do two things at once here and don't want to violate attorney/client by not paying attention and accidentally posting a client's dirty laundry on a Kings messageboard. ;)
 
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LjuboDaMan

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love_them_kings said:
I don't think anyone is pitting Peja against Bibby, this is just a question of who will lead this team. I don't think either of them is dying to lead, and I think whoever steps up will have the blessing of the other person.
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maybe not now, but later all of this whos da leader could create un-pleasent discussions (we all know how webb vs peja went)

as i said players should play ball and be leaders on floor ... all o them ... and RA should be the main GUY yelling from da bench
 
iheartBrad

iheartBrad

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C'mon what kings fan actually thinks that Peja is now the leader of the team?

Its Mikes team and he is the leader...

now obviously Peja is now gotta be the leading score and what now...but he is not the leader
 
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10bibby10

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im going with my main man bibby too, he will lead the team, i dont think he will be the leading scorer, but he will be the leader....and he has the ability to lead in scoring to...but it is up to him whether he takes as many shots as pedja, which i am doubting, either way, in my opinion its bibby's team now
 
Packt

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King Peja said:
Flat out the answer is Peja should be our number one option. He is a proven scorer who has shown that he can play close to a superstar level. Bibby on the other hand has not altough he is a very good second option that can take over in many nights.
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So Peja is now close to superstar level and proven while Bibby isn't? It's ironic to hear that a leader is no longer needed once Webber is gone when that's what we were hearing every second when he was here.
 
Twix

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I agree with some of you guys/gals...Bibby the leader (always though of him as the leader even with Webb) and Pedja the lead scorer.
 
Bballkingsrock

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I am saying it should be Mike Bibby. I think he is a very underrated PG. Vwery strong, good ballhandler, does not lose the ball a lot, and has great body control.
 
AleksandarN

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Bricklayer said:
No, I think it has to be Mike's team as far as heart/leadership go. But Peja should be the leading scorer (indeed already is with his competition traded away). Now whether he can score int he playoffs -- might be matchups. I've had this theory for a while now that Peja isn't really a choker, he's just not good enough to beat the elite defenders. Give him a weak defender, and he gets lit up. Give him a Bowen, and he gets shut down. Just unfortuante that the top playoff teams all have elite defenders.
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What I think will happen now is that Pedja will be our focal point on offense. We will see now more plays run for him to help free him up. This I think will also help when we reach the playoffs. One thing is for sure we need Pedja to devolpe a low post offense this offseason. If we wants to be the man he has to prove it with working on his game this offseason. He must show commitment to that since the Kings made a commitment to keep him over Webber. Only time will tell if Petrie made the right move for this frachise.
 
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bigbadred00

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Alek, what happens when they put Bowen or another good defender on Peja. Is he going to fold? He did it last year versus Minne......Webber averaged around 22 a game against the top forwards in the game, Marion, Duncan, Brand and KG this year.
 
AleksandarN

AleksandarN

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bigbadred00 said:
Alek, what happens when they put Bowen or another good defender on Peja. Is he going to fold? He did it last year versus Minne......Webber averaged around 22 a game against the top forwards in the game, Marion, Duncan, Brand and KG this year.
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That is what I am saying that Pedja has to devolpe another part of his game(post play). Also Rick has a role in this too he must now draw up more plays for Pedja. I can see us running set plays similiar that the Pacers would run for Reggie. This will be a key this year. Next year it is up to Pedja to work on his game if we wants to be the man.
 
RageMe11

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Bricklayer said:
I've had this theory for a while now that Peja isn't really a choker, he's just not good enough to beat the elite defenders. Give him a weak defender, and he gets lit up. Give him a Bowen, and he gets shut down. Just unfortuante that the top playoff teams all have elite defenders.
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I agree with you totally, everyone knows that peja can score, just that when those few defensive specialists take peja, he really has a hard time, and i think he really gets frustrated by it. It frazzles him, therefore he has a bad shooting night, by forcing shots. anyways, i think if peja can do close to the same thing he did last season, we will be fine. But i guess we will see.
 
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bigbadred00

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Webber against Minne: 45% from the field

Peja against Minne: %35.7

PPS: 1.09 for Webber, 1.03 for Peja.

Hmm.....interesting. I guess I'd rather let Webber shoot too.
 
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